New Pilot for Dead is Dead Campaign

[Schwalberich]

Hi

hopefully some one can guide me

 

I'm currently in my first Dead is Dead campaign. Unfortunately my I-16 Pilot wanted to shake hands with a Stuka Gunner and so my 2nd sortie was also the last one... 

 

Now I read that others just created a new Pilot to their campaign to continue. 

I found the controls to add a pilot which somehow worked, as I can see him in the squadrons scoreboard. 

But I am not able to generate a new mission as there is no button except for AAR. 

 

Is this even possible in a dead is dead campaign or do I need to create a completely new career? (shouldn't be a big deal after 2 sorties anyway) 

 

Regards

[grcurmudgeon]

In the same flow where you add the new pilot, you can then go back and change the active pilot to the new one. It's two steps. I'm not on my home PC so I can't grab screenshots right now.

[Schwalberich]

I had a look into the personnel tab:

 

It seems my pilot is active already, but I'm still not able to generate a mission:

 

[PatrickAWlson]

4 minutes ago, Schwalberich said:

I had a look into the personnel tab:

 

It seems my pilot is active already, but I'm still not able to generate a mission:

 

 

Some definitions:

Active pilot means alive and well.  There can be more than one.  Active pilots are alive and with the squadron.

Reference pilot is the pilot you are playing right now.  All of the PWCG campaign pages are from the perspective of that pilot.   The reference pilot can be dead.

 

While Antonovic is active, I suspect that Ivanovich is the reference pilot.

 

To set the reference pilot:

Campaign->Personnel->Reference Pilot and choose Antonovic

 

Your perspective should now be from Antonovic point of view.   What gets a bit confusing for you and PWCG is that both are in the same unit, so Antonovic's perspective is more or less the same as Ivanovich's perspective ... except Ivanovich is dead, so he can't fly.

 

If somebody has a better name than "reference pilot" please feel free to suggest.  Honestly, "active" is the word that I would be inclined to use but that is already in use and means something completely different. 

[Varibraun]

19 minutes ago, Schwalberich said:

It seems my pilot is active already, but I'm still not able to generate a mission:

 

After following the suggestions above, try taking 1 day of leave.  I think I have had than issue before and taking leave worked for me.  (If you are running multiple "Active" pilots, switching reference pilots and then switching back works too).

[Schwalberich]

11 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

To set the reference pilot:

Campaign->Personnel->Reference Pilot and choose Antonovic

 

Strange thing. I was in that menu already and Antonovic was already selected in the dropdown, so I thought everything looks good.

After explcicitly hitting "Accept" I was able to generate a new mission

 

Thank you very much Pat!

 

But as a side note: When I close PWCG and restart it, it seems that I'm again not able to generate a new mission. I need to proceed again with "Accepting" the reference pilot.

I'll have a look if something changes when I flew the mission. (Maybe a bug?)

 

14 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

If somebody has a better name than "reference pilot" please feel free to suggest.  Honestly, "active" is the word that I would be inclined to use but that is already in use and means something completely different. 

Maybe something like "Current Pilot", "Pilot in charge" or "Flying as ..."? 
I was already wondering what exactly reference pilot was meaning. Thanks for your explanation

[PatrickAWlson]

I  like "Flying As" - thanks.

 

PWCG should persist the reference pilot - i.e.,  once you select the reference pilot it should stick.  I will look into that and verify.

[grcurmudgeon]

Sorry for misusing the term "active pilot" in my initial response, "reference pilot" might have avoided some follow-on confusion...

[PatrickAWlson]

8 minutes ago, grcurmudgeon said:

Sorry for misusing the term "active pilot" in my initial response, "reference pilot" might have avoided some follow-on confusion...

 

Reference pilot is a crappy term.  I mean, who would know what a reference pilot is without a PWCG dictionary.  Just the best I could come up with at the moment.  Flying As is a great alternative.

[Schwalberich]

Short update on the issue where PWCG did not remembered the current pilot.

 

After I have flown the mission, I needed to select the ref. pilot again, but after commiting the AAR it seems now to be solved and PWCG does remember even after restart of the program

[=FI=Blue2]

Hi Pat,
I've been hosting my first attempts at a PWCG coop campaign with my squad over the past couple of months now, and we've been having a blast.  Thanks for all your tremendous efforts.  This is a truly remarkable tool!

There are a couple of questions or issues we've run into though, and one of them fits with this thread, so I decided to start by replying here.

 

I've created a total of 7 pilots for our current campaign.  All are active and flying in the same squadron.

As long as I'm hosting, my pilot needs to be the reference pilot for each mission per my understanding.

However, I find that every time I go back to the reference pilot screen, the pull-down always displays the name of the same pilot - not my pilot, but rather the pilot who is listed at the top of the list on the "administer pilots" screen.  He was the last pilot I created for this campaign.  (In fact, the list of pilots on the pull-down in the "reference pilot" screen exactly mirrors the list of the 7 pilots as they're displayed on the "administer" screen, which is probably as intended.)

 

So the issue here is that - per my understanding - I must go back into the "reference pilot" screen between every single mission, and re-select my own pilot from the pull down list, to designate him as 'reference pilot' for the next mission I'm about to generate.  In other words, PWCG does not seem to remember the reference pilot from one mission to the next.  Is this true, or am I missing something?

 

Also Pat, I now seem to have another issue since our latest mission, since requesting leave for the 3 pilots who were injured during that mission no longer results in returning them to active status.  Should I post the "PWCGErrorLog.txt" file, and the .zip file from the "Error Report" folder?  The in-app message asks that we post it on the RoF fourm, but I'm assuming you'd prefer it posted here somehow for PWCGBOS errors...?

Thanks in advance!

[PatrickAWlson]

I have to look into why the last selected reference pilot is not persisted.

[=FI=Blue2]

Gotcha.  Thanks for checking into it, sir.  If I can be of any help by supplying files, etc., just let me know.

Good luck!

[=FI=Blue2]

I believe the issue I was having with requesting leave not working properly was possibly related to my failure to reset the reference pilot before one or more of the missions created earlier in the campaign.  I hope so, anyway.

 

So, while you're doing your sleuth work on the reference pilot Pat, I simply created a new campaign for us to play.  We'll see if it behaves normally now that I'm being extra careful to reset reference pilot before EVERY mission.  So far, nobody injured so no chance to verify that.  But all else appears to be working perfectly.

[=FI=Blue2]

Update:

Well, we're now several missions into the latest new campaign I mentioned above, and are definitely seeing some strange results in the mission debriefs, Pat.  The wrong guys are getting credited for kills.

I have made sure to reset the reference pilot to myself before EVERY mission generated so far.  The drop-down there still behaves as described above:  my pilot is at the very bottom of the drop-down list since he was created first, and each time I go to the reference pilot page, it displays the name of pilot listed at the very top (i.e. the last pilot I created).  So, I always have to open the dropdown, select myself, then click "Accept."

However based on the results we're seeing, I'm inclined to believe that something is still wrong there.  Any suggestions are welcome.

Good luck in your ongoing efforts!