Bizzarre Ai behaviour

[Bf109Ace]

Hi All

I am a FMB SP flyer and have built up/ modified/ adapted many missions for CLoD.

The Ai in CloD has always been a bit dodgy, so imagine my surprise with the launch of DWT where the P-40's give a reasonable pilot a real dogfight.

At first glance DWT seemed a big improvement over CLoD and so after flying DWT for a while I went back to my old BoB missions to see the improvement ( if any ) to the Ai models there as claimed by the developers during the launch of DWT.

Sadly things have gone haywire!!

1) The flight leader and his wingman break off to base between waypoints 1 & 2 ( or 2 & 3) depending on weather one uses the in flight map or the FMB map.

After a while #'s 3 & 4 also return to base ( Not always )

I fly as #1 in flight 2. In auto mode my aircraft eventually leaves the mission and executes a huge (100km or so ) loop before returning to base.

2) The selected flight often ignores waypoints. Typically a waypoint for executing a turn to port will result in a 40km loop turn to starboard before returning to the original waypoint.

3) The "escort" function is completely out of whack! Aircraft refuse to escort bombers and break off to execute another 40/ 50/ 70 km loop before returning to base leaving the bombers to the mercy of the attacking fighters. When they do a sort of escort, very often they are out of sight of the bombers doing another of these long range loops. Often 20km plus away from the bombers. Hopeless.  

4) Bombers often return to the target after the original bombing run and end up as target practice for the AAA.

I have tried flying the mission in Manual and Auto with the same results.

Deleting the flight and re-creating it does not help. Same as for deleting waypoints.

All of these missions were developed and flown multiple times with no problems prior to me obtaining DWT.

All these "bugs" have made the game "unplayable"  and more serious, is the 100's of hours lost whilst building the missions

Has anybody any ideas as to why this has happened and a possible fix?

Appreciate any comments, Thanks

 

[JV69badatflyski]

Hi, 
The best way would be to provide (share) a mission with issues. 
Explain where are the issues encountered.
This way people can have a look at it , correct the mission and explain to you where the issues were.
in most cases, it's linked to a too fast work of the mission builder, cutting some corners.
CoD is much less forgiven than il2-46 in this case. Need to be meticulous.
KR
 

[Bussard]

1)

I see this frequent that the player wingman decide to return to base. This was not always the case, I think this is since DWT.

2)

I think this has to do with waypoints causing turns too sharp, especially bomber formations.

3)

This could be because next waypoints without escort are reached.

4)

This occurs yes, but not in all missions. The “Southampton Blitz Mission” for example handles this okay. May be also waypoints turns too sharp for bomber formations
 

Another thing that can be added is that not all bombers are dropping their bombs.

 

[Bf109Ace]

Hi JV69badatflyski

I would love to share a problem mission, but I am not very IT savvy so some pointers if you can.

I take your point about cutting corners but.... the missions all worked fine last I played them around a year or so ago, just before the launch of DWT.

 

and Bussard I see you have similar issues

1) I agree, it seems the flight models have been influenced by DWT

2) Not really in this case as all the flights are fighters with at least 20km between waypoints

3) Will look into this, a possible cause

4) Agree, not all missions

Yeah and quite a few of the bombers (Ju88's) return armed [ Area or Target bombing instruction ]

 

[JV69badatflyski]

Hi!
you can attach files directly in your posts or put them on your google-drive and provide the link.

[Bf109Ace]

Hi JV69badatflyski,

Tried to attach the mission file but the forum does not allow .mis files

As I said I am an IT idiot, so I will look into google-drive and post asap.

Thanks

[Sokol1]

For attach compress the file before (WinZip, 7Zip, WinRar...)

Or

Copy the mission code (the text)

 

Click in the code icon in the above task bar , is the <> 

 

Past the text. Example - just few lines from a .mis code, in your case copy all lines.

 

[PARTS]
  core.100
  bob.100
[MAIN]
  MAP Land$English_Channel_1940
  BattleArea 110000 130000 150000 150000 1000
  TIME 18.2333333333333
.
.
.

 

 

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Edited September 12, 2022 by Varrattu

[Bf109Ace]

Hi Varrattu,

Sorry for the delayed response, been on holiday!

Tried your suggestion... no luck.

Took the .mis file in FMB and saved it as a .txt file

viz. a file named:   400821 JG 52 Transfer Oye-Plage.mis    was saved as      400821 JG 52 Transfer Oye-Plage.txt 

Tried to drag it to the box.... no go. Still sees it as a .mis file and will not take it.

I cannot find the above file with a .mis extension in Windows Explorer. It merely shows the name of the file with out the extension, hence why I tried to save it as a .txt file.