cant start the me262

[Riderocket]

I select engine 1, push the start button, when the engine rpm gets to the number 1, I hold the ignition button, then when it drops down to 1000rpm i release it but then the engine cuts out almost immediately before I can throttle up to 15%.. what am I doing wrong?

 

 

Never mind, I'm meant to hold the ignition button until it reaches 3000 rpm after throttling up ?‍♂️

Edited August 30, 2021 by Riderocket

[AEthelraedUnraed]

I can't remember the exact sequence, but it should be in the in-game aircraft data. If you follow it to the letter, it works perfectly. That's how I do it. EDIT: it's not in-game, in fact it was in another thread:

 

Oh, and also note that one of the gauges has two scales for low and high RPM, make sure you're looking at the right one. 

Edited August 30, 2021 by AEthelraedUnraed

[KoN_]

Yes its a bit frustrating . Some good videos on YouTube . 

Devs should of just done one click starts all . Every other airframe has this . 

Not sure why Devs went down this route with the 262 . 

Edited August 30, 2021 by KoN_

[Sandmarken]

42 minutes ago, KoN_ said:

Yes its a bit frustrating . Some good videos on YouTube . 

Devs should of just done one click starts all . Every other airframe has this . 

Not sure why Devs went down this route with the 262 . 

In other aircraft u need to put throttle, rpm and mixture aswel. I enjoy the extra work ? 

[JG4_Moltke1871]

2 hours ago, Riderocket said:

I select engine 1, push the start button, when the engine rpm gets to the number 1, I hold the ignition button, then when it drops down to 1000rpm i release it but then the engine cuts out almost immediately before I can throttle up to 15%.. what am I doing wrong?

 

 

Never mind, I'm meant to hold the ignition button until it reaches 3000 rpm after throttling up ?‍♂️

holt the ignition until you see the red „Brandhahn“ (fuel leveler) beside the throttle is moving forward. Than push forward the throttle a bit until it locks. Than can left the ignition button.

[SidtheGit]

Hi. I hope this helps, I did it for the Dangerdogz as a method for first timers on 262 engine starting so it is meant to be basic. If it is like 'teaching your granny to suck eggs' I apologise but it may help on some points.

 

I think the 262 is a very satisfying aircraft to start and fly and can be great fun. Because I couldn't grasp the method from the videos available online I found the easiest way to learn the procedure was to make an ingame .TRK video of the procedure being carried out on autostart conditions. The AI did everything in the order it is meant to be done, I then copied it.

 

If you want to look at the engine starting .TRK I made the attached zip file (262 Jumo start procedure.zip) contains a copy of the Word document of the text below, the .TRK I recorded and a short README.

 

Before trying to start the engines

There are only two extra buttons to map, the two engine igniters in the 'Controls' section. I have got them on my throttle because for me it makes it easier to hold them in whilst moving the throttle. If you wanted you could double map them with piston engine buttons eg. boost or supercharger because the 262 doesn't have either so they won't interfere with eachother.

It is important to select the 'Fuel regulator valve' in the 'Modifications' section during your aircraft loadout selection, this prevents flameouts on startup and flying but it won't prevent flameouts if you move the throttle too much at some speeds and angles of attack. Have a read of the aircraft performance sheets for this info, this post is for cold starting on the ground. 

An attached piccie shows the Pilot and AI controls, located on the left hand side of the cockpit. Another one shows the two scales on the RPM gauges situated on the top right of the panel. The inner scale shows Low RPM, the outer scale High RPM.

I have included the time (in italics, 00.00.00) the pilot actions listed below happen in the video.

 

Starting procedure

Don’t forget to select the ‘Fuel regulator valve’ when selecting aircraft loadout!

As can be seen in the relevant attached piccie below I have separate engine start buttons and I don't need to select/deselect engines 1 or 2/select all engines during the procedure. If you want, as with any twin/triple engine aircraft you can use E if that is your chosen method of engine starting. However, the 262 is different because pressing E will start engine 1 procedure but will only go as far as taking the turbine to 1000rpm on the low RPM gauge, it will then wait for the pilot to carry out the rest of the start procedure by using the individual engine igniters as mentioned above or by using RShft E, a mapping that operates both igniters at the same time. Once engine 1 has started it will move on to engine 2.

Also worth noting is that once engine 1 has started and is idling you should move your joystick throttle back to fully closed so that you are ready to move it forward for engine 2 start procedure. Moving it back has no effect on engine 1 throttle. I assume this is the same for those pilots who have separate throttle control...I don’t have separate throttles because to me it overcomplicates things.

 

The main points are (pilot actions are in bold type):

1. (00.00.06) Press engine 1 start.

2. (00.00.35) Watch low RPM (inner scale) rise to 1000rpm. At 1000rpm press and hold down engine 1 igniter.

3. (00.00.58) Low rpm needle rises to 2000rpm, then drops to zero. Important....Note fuel lever next to throttle moves forward to the first slot. Move throttle lever forward so that it's pawl engages and keeps lever open slightly.....don't do this until the fuel lever has moved and do it immediately fuel lever is in it’s slot and, in reality, you don’t have to move it as slowly as in the video. Release engine igniter button. 

4. Close throttle fully.  Engine should idle at 3000 rpm (outer scale) and as an indicator jet pipe temp should be at 600 degrees (gauge situated below RPM gauge).

5. Repeat for engine 2.

262 Jumo start procedure.zip

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, SidtheGit said:

It is important to select the 'Fuel regulator valve' in the 'Modifications' section during your aircraft loadout selection

This isn't important at all, and if you want to fly historically, you shouldn't select it until late 1944. Regardless of if you've got it selected or not, you should never move your throttle too fast as your engine will either shutdown or catch fire (the fuel regulator prevents the latter).

 

Without a fuel regulator, the same instructions are still valid, except that in step 3 when you move your throttle, you have to mind the temperature gauge (immediately below the RPM gauges). Be very gentle with your throttle, and as soon as it reaches the red zone, stop increasing it (or even decrease it a little) until the temperature is back in the white zone.

[40plus]

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