DM Question

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

5 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

Ah, but the aileron wobbles up when I pitch upward and wobbles down when I pitch downward (or the other way around - I forget... it definitely (1) moved independently of the other aileron and (2) moved aerodynamic forces due to pitch... but wasn't under my direct control).

Hundreds hours in FC multiplayer , never saw something like that. 

[CountZero]

17 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

Taff in Exile latest video contains some "interesting" displays of the current state of DM... how did these two JU-87s not explode on impact with the ground from that height??? ?

 

 

its either because its replay, so some things dont show up like when you play in real time, or he has in realisam settings turnd on option for undestructable, airplanes explod in game when they hit the ground even with this buggy DM.

Edited August 29, 2021 by CountZero

[gimpy117]

On 8/21/2021 at 5:40 AM, [DBS]Browning said:

Damage to the hinges or foreign objects, such as torn aircraft structure, may well produce a jammed surface, although not in more than one surface at a time

possibly, but I would think more likely damage to the hinge would make the surface depart. destroying the bearing/bushing on one end would probably send it flying. If it was a Piano hinge type maybe it would jam...but I'm not sure how many primary control surfaces of that era were piano hinges. My guess is a Push-pull rod type could get borked if a shell destroyed a pivot point or somehow a pulley destroyed that is crucial for routing a cable to get proper motion/travel. 

 

I will add though, I've seen aircraft come in with totally frozen aileron bearings, and the pilots didn't notice. it's possible that in an emergency a foreign object could be cleared by deforming the skin of the control surface/wing interface to at least get some movement. or in the case of a fabric surface it just tears the covering.   

 

personally I think broken rods and broken cables should definitely be a thing....but jammed not as much. A "Lite" solution would be to model in limited travel    

[US41_Low]

Literal arcade hit points would be better than the current damage model. Zero chance I buy FC 2 or 3 until DM is fixed. Have a bit of respect for your customer base.

[US103_Rockwell]

The current damage model in flying circus is lackluster at best. Taking a single bullet to a wing and having it fall off, or a control surface being shot out and spiraling to the ground is not fun for anyone. Nor does it have any historical basis, there are only a handful of stories in a sea of historical accounts of this occurring. For one account of a single bullet jamming a rudder in place or a plane ripping its wing in a low g pull because of slight damage, there are hundreds of accounts of planes being literal bullet sponges. It has been over a year since this change was enacted, the fact it’s still around is beyond me. Slowly, the player base is dying away solely because of the damage model. Its upsetting that the damage model is not the number one priority for development, even with flying circus 2 being in development and puchasable

Edited September 1, 2021 by US103_Rockwell

[No.23_Triggers]

9 minutes ago, US103_Rockwell said:

Slowly, the player base is dying away solely because of the damage model. It upsetting that the damage model is not the number one priority for development, even with flying circus 2 being in development and puchasable

This. Much as I'm up for new modules, planes and features, the excitement is taken out of them when you realise that they'll just be subject to the same frustrating, boring DM. I'd much rather wait years for FC3 and new WW1 collector planes, and have the DM fixed ASAP, than vice versa.  

[gimpy117]

On 8/27/2021 at 5:30 PM, LuseKofte said:

I just say. They have painted them selves into a corner. Developing 3 packs at the time, covid, lack of coders and I am sure a lot of unknown problems .

I am not saying devs are not doing anything. I am saying they are now in the mid's of high ambitions nightmare.

All these things to do with coving restriction.

And people say they refuse to fix, are there no shame?

I will not buy into anymore ww1 stuff, because I doubt it ever will be a priority. 

I am not doing it to "punish" developers. I have nothing but respect for what they are doing

I agree, they fell victim to scope creep. Time should have been allocated to correct wrinkles in the DM update they did over a year ago. Really all jason has to do is reassure the community and just do a temporary hotfix and this will all blow over.

 

remember the 109 concrete tail? do something like that. people have already developed mods for .50's anyways