Bubi_EH Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Definitely the Macchi C.202 waiting for it in BoS 1
[JG2]R7_Blackadder Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 With all due respect , not only priorities vote for the Macchi, but also as a more farsighted choice. IAR-80 surely deserves a place and I'm sure it will be introduced later on...after all these are Axis' lend-lease. It seems only fair to give a spot to everyone. 1
bigd0311 Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I voted IAR. I would prefer to see at least a B varient or later for historical reasons. I think some of you guys are jumping the gun. They haven't even released BOS and you're already in North Africa. 2
Dormouse Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 I stubbornly fail to see why, if an italian fighter should be represented, 202 deserves the place, since the burden of the engagements with the VVS was substantially bore by 200's which, btw, also carried out ground attack along with Caproni light bombers, which, odd enough, nobody seems to miss into the game. I should like to add that I am Italian and the Regia Aeronautica is dear to me. We are also in North Africa So are the 200's and in greater numbers
[JG2]R7_Blackadder Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Perfectly right, and they would make a nice support characters for scenarios. I just bowed my preference to what the OP proposed. If it was up to me first choice would be a RE-2005 and "who-cares-about-setting" mode: ON
Dormouse Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Which is why, with regret, I bowed to IAR's, because in the proposed scenario they were present in more significant numbers =) 1
[JG2]R7_Blackadder Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Well that is true as well. Might be a better Idea to switch the Italian option to a Mc.200 and see where it goes
Emgy Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Russian poll results IAR 80 (291 votes [59.15%]) Macchi C.202 Folgore (201 votes [40.85%]) Combined with our results: IAR 80 (547 votes) Macchi C.202 Folgore (479 votes) Edited February 22, 2014 by Calvamos
[JG2]R7_Blackadder Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Ok then I suppose they won't even vote for the Mc.200 it's too obvious it will arrive this summer at the latest :D
Falco_Peregrinus Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) I stubbornly fail to see why, if an italian fighter should be represented, 202 deserves the place, since the burden of the engagements with the VVS was substantially bore by 200's which, btw, also carried out ground attack along with Caproni light bombers, which, odd enough, nobody seems to miss into the game. I should like to add that I am Italian and the Regia Aeronautica is dear to me. So are the 200's and in greater numbers Quite true actually...Even though the poll was between the 202 and the IAR (and I voted the C.202) I would like more to see the C.200 instead of the C.202 as an initial-release aircraft. It fought more in that theatre and it could still be used in the future as well. Maybe the 202 could follow. I actually "hate" to decide which aircraft should come out next; IAR or Macchi. Just because both of them were employed in that theatre (even though we must admit that the IAR fought in the same map as we have in the game...), it would be just great to have both planes in the sim. Having a little bit of variety apart from the common german and soviet planes would be beneficial to everyone I guess. Fingers crossed... Edited February 26, 2014 by Ioshic 1
Aracno Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 Quite true actually...Even though the poll was between the 202 and the IAR (and I voted the C.202) I would like more to see the C.200 instead of the C.202 as an initial-release aircraft. It fought more in that theatre and it could still be used in the future as well.Maybe the 202 could follow. I'm with you, i love the 202 but the mc200 has definitely more sense by historical point of view.
wtornado Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Historical impact/ effectiveness/numbers involved... Can't really go full historical with the FW-190 at Stalingrad. I would like the Macchi 202 Bis or Folgeltro with the DB 605 would be nice to have. 1
wtornado Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Can the Macchi 202 do this: As a matter of fact yes it can You also have the open cockpit precision bombing version of the Macchi 202.
Dormouse Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 http://www.stormomagazine.com/ReferencePics/MC200/MC200VignaValle.html This was the workhorse and this saw action. The other was a pretty girl sent over there to take propaganda pictures. Get real instead of claiming immersion.
Falco_Peregrinus Posted March 9, 2014 Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) http://www.stormomagazine.com/ReferencePics/MC200/MC200VignaValle.html This was the workhorse and this saw action. The other was a pretty girl sent over there to take propaganda pictures. Get real instead of claiming immersion. Always loved the C.200. It's not totally correct though to state that the 202 was just sent there for that reason. The 202 was present in that theatre, but in a very small number. Nonetheless it was there, and it saw action. Of course, having being sent later* than the C.200s and in a very minor total number, it fought much less than the 200. * we are talking here of a delay of about one year. The 200s were sent in the summer of 1941 and stayed there until January 1943, almost 1 year and a half of continued operations. The C.202s arrived in the summer of 1942 Edited March 9, 2014 by Ioshic
Yakdriver Posted March 9, 2014 Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) what non-German fighter would you like to see in IL-2 BoS? Early LaGGs with retractable tail and up to 5 guns. or the MC-202. fine bird. Edited March 9, 2014 by Hawker_Typhoon 2
Eldur Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Thanks a lot for voting folks! I must admit that results are different on this and on the Ru forum (they mostly prefer IAR). So we'll need to discuss this question further here in the office, and also consider the possible rival for MC202/IAR. Thus I'm starting abother poll regarding lend-lease planes that fought for Soviet Union. I also voted for the MC.202 just because I like that plane, but the IARs would take a better place - I hope it's not the question which plane comes, but just the question which comes first. In the case of the IAR, I'd prefer to see all the IAR-80/81 variants by modifications in the loadout screen (4 FNs / 6 FNs / 4 FNs+2 .50s / 4 FNs + 2 MG FF(/M ?) / 4 FNs + 2 MG 151/20 / 4 50kg bombs / 1 250kg bomb... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAR_80 ). Actually I loved the IAR-81C in Il-2 when the FW-190s were not available... 1
Dormouse Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Always loved the C.200. It's not totally correct though to state that the 202 was just sent there for that reason. The 202 was present in that theatre, but in a very small number. Nonetheless it was there, and it saw action. Of course, having being sent later* than the C.200s and in a very minor total number, it fought much less than the 200. * we are talking here of a delay of about one year. The 200s were sent in the summer of 1941 and stayed there until January 1943, almost 1 year and a half of continued operations. The C.202s arrived in the summer of 1942 True. most of propaganda depicts 200's, pictures of 202's in russia are much more rare. Also true that those (twelve?) 202's saw all the action they could take in the months they were there.
[JG2]R7_Blackadder Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 I think the poll presented a bad choice in the first place,the question as well as the planes asking about. Anyway the result is there, now let's hope to see all the three of them asap
Dormouse Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 The crucial question of which one between the Fly and the Bolt would get the upper hand keeps me awake at night
Jaws2002 Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) The IAR-80 team wishes you all Happy Easter! Edited April 19, 2014 by Jaws2002 1
A_S Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) I know its not provided in the choice...but AMERICANS ! (P-40, P-51) Edited April 19, 2014 by A-S
Matt Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Since these planes don't seem to be meant for BoS anymore, but possibly for a different theatre (if i understood a recent dev post about this correctly), i switched my vote to the Macchi.
Jaws2002 Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Since these planes don't seem to be meant for BoS anymore, but possibly for a different theatre (if i understood a recent dev post about this correctly), i switched my vote to the Macchi. I'll make a voodoo doll with your name on it.
sturmkraehe Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) I am all for the IAR because: it's a nice plane too rarely presented in other flight sims (ok, the M202 not much either but still a bit better known) above all the IAR was a far more relevant plane to our scenario. Edited June 4, 2014 by sturmkraehe 1
Schwalbee Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I chose the iar 80 because of the armament . Two MG 151's and four 7.7 machine guns. Now that will pack a punch and the plane seems like a great bnz platform.
Cpt_Branko Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) IAR-80 for Axis, P-40 for Soviets for BoS In 1943, Soviet front - P-39, the N and especially Q versions. Edited June 5, 2014 by Cpt_Branko
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