Is engine damage still modelled or is there a toggle switch to enable it now?

[KPnutskgwanchos]

Im asking as I never seem to have an engine seize or quit despite trailing smoke/coolant/fuel for long periods of time.  Im sure there used to be engine fails after graphical damage? ... Now I dont even see temps go up. I dont use complex engine management could this be why?  Kills the emersion a bit as I like to nurse a damaged aircraft home.  

[Panzerlang]

Nursing a damaged engine counts as "complex" and if you have complex turned off you won't get the damage.

[Elem]

I don't use CEM but I frequently get engine damage that requires nursing it home and often quits before I get there.

[KPnutskgwanchos]

9 minutes ago, Elem said:

I don't use CEM but I frequently get engine damage that requires nursing it home and often quits before I get there.

Darn so why am I not seeing this... I flew for 30 mins yesterday streaming smoke and coolant with zero ill effects!.... And this has happened many times ?... So I have conflicting answers now as well... One says damage is modeled without CEM and one says not

[AEthelraedUnraed]

16 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Im asking as I never seem to have an engine seize or quit despite trailing smoke/coolant/fuel for long periods of time.  Im sure there used to be engine fails after graphical damage? ... Now I dont even see temps go up. I dont use complex engine management could this be why?  Kills the emersion a bit as I like to nurse a damaged aircraft home.  

Just curious - without complex engine management, how would you "nurse" a damaged plane home since all you control is the throttle?

[KPnutskgwanchos]

2 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Just curious - without complex engine management, how would you "nurse" a damaged plane home since all you control is the throttle?

Good point  .... I guess I just mean trying to get back to my side of the lines ... maybe trying to gain height for a glide and then trimming out for best performance ... and then the tenseness of not knowing if/ when the engine will stop and maybe needing an emergency landing . But I am beginning to think perhaps its time to try some CEM ... I tend to have to grab short missions when I can due to time contraints so Ive avoided any non essential time consuming complications up to this point.  

[AEthelraedUnraed]

7 minutes ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Good point  .... I guess I just mean trying to get back to my side of the lines ... maybe trying to gain height for a glide and then trimming out for best performance ... and then the tenseness of not knowing if/ when the engine will stop and maybe needing an emergency landing . But I am beginning to think perhaps its time to try some CEM ... I tend to have to grab short missions when I can due to time contraints so Ive avoided any non essential time consuming complications up to this point.  

I can relate to that, I like to fly back to friendly lines in a damaged plane too. Just wait until you use CEM, it makes it a tad more exciting (depending on which plane you fly)

 

As for switching to CEM... The German fighters already have a pretty good mechanical engine management computer anyway so there should be little change for those. For some of the other aircraft (e.g. the Yak) CEM doesn't really matter since the engine lasts pretty indefinitely. Most Western Allied aircraft, though, do have complex management with separate throttle/RPM and in some cases turbocharger levers. I think radiator/oil cooling flaps also fall under CEM? Anyhow, just read the in-game aircraft specs to find out which RPM/throttle settings to use and then it should be neither too hard nor time consuming. And lastly, if you've got any questions, just post them on the forum and we'll answer them, I'm sure

[grcurmudgeon]

Yes, for me it's gaining some altitude so I have room to gently glide down when the engine seizes up. It's not really about "nursing the engine", it's about "praying I make it to friendly lines before it quits completely". I lost a pilot in the Ace of Aces challenge because I was too low when an engine seized up, I panicked and tried to bail but was too low for the chute to open...

[Elem]

6 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Just curious - without complex engine management, how would you "nurse" a damaged plane home since all you control is the throttle?

I find that reducing to 50% or less that is usually enough to "nurse" the engine back to a safe area. The higher the percentage, the higher the risk of complete engine failure. Works for me.

[40plus]

8 hours ago, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Darn so why am I not seeing this... I flew for 30 mins yesterday streaming smoke and coolant with zero ill effects!.... And this has happened many times ?... So I have conflicting answers now as well... One says damage is modeled without CEM and one says not

 

Take note of the colour of "Smoke" you were streaming?

Black is oil, white is coolant, off-white blue-ish is fuel. You can drop fuel for a LONG time before the engine quits.

 

There is also various levels of damage so just streaming smoke doesn't mean your fluids are gushing out. Watch your gauges to se if temps are climbing or fuel is dropping abnormally quick. As far as my experience goes, engine damage is always modeled unless, of course, you have damage fully disabled in realism settings.

[ShamrockOneFive]

On 8/5/2021 at 3:23 PM, KPnutskgwanchos said:

Im asking as I never seem to have an engine seize or quit despite trailing smoke/coolant/fuel for long periods of time.  Im sure there used to be engine fails after graphical damage? ... Now I dont even see temps go up. I dont use complex engine management could this be why?  Kills the emersion a bit as I like to nurse a damaged aircraft home.  

 

If it's the oil system that's damaged, it may not show on the temperature until the the engine runs out of oil at which point it will probably seize. It's been a while but I think you'll see the temps spike when that happens. If its water cooling then the temps do rise, the overheat warning will display, and the engine will eventually die.

 

It happens to me all the time. Damaged and feathered port engine on this sortie.

 

 

Or two overheating engines, no rudder, and one hell of a nail-biter of a flight home on this one.

 

 

It happens to other planes too... just so happens that I seem to take epic damage screenshots with the A-20