Clouds tech current vs. TrueSky

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

Hello!   
so I see the TeamFusion updates regarding their cloud tech to using TrueSky…

 

I was wondering how that tech compares to what we have currently in the Great Battles series? 
The team has done a great job with our current clouds for what can be done with the engine… some minor discrepancies…  but nothing can be done about it because it would need to be completely rebuild, so I’m fine with them. 

 

Are there any current titles that use TrueSky?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

What is known is that the Devs are working on new clouds right now. Also, people knowledgeable about the current cloud tech have stated that the current system is actually very powerful, albeit a bit hard to use. Relying on those statements, I'm going to carefully assume that the planned improvements will consist of an update of the current system, rather than switching to a new cloud system.

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

Oh they are working to improve current system!!?  I thought what we have now is what we get.. that’s good to hear! 
yes indeed the current one is very good.

 

[76IAP-Black]

It is not just the cloud tech, but also the light settings for the "world", you can see differences between different sims.

You can adjust them with mods in some sims to make it comparable to another sim.
What i do for il2, i have adjusted the monitor settings for the colours and saturation and created a preset. 
For DCS i use the standart modified mode on my monitor. 

would be good to see an improvement not just on the clouds and weather system, but also on the world light settings

[Jade_Monkey]

Before jumping the gun too soon, they said they might include that as part of future enhancements.

 

My best guess is that they have a lot of other work they need to finish first and they are definitely not working on it right now. Maybe doing some proof of concepts but nothing more.

[Denum]

Looks like it maybe a while before they update the skybox, plus with it being summer I'd expect production to slow down a little bit.

 

Everyone deserves time off to recharge. 

[Noisemaker]

Leave them alone!  You're lucky they even develop for you!  Leave the developers alone!

[AEthelraedUnraed]

2 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Before jumping the gun too soon, they said they might include that as part of future enhancements.

 

My best guess is that they have a lot of other work they need to finish first and they are definitely not working on it right now. Maybe doing some proof of concepts but nothing more.

Dev Diary 284 (5 weeks ago):

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And we continue to work on the new AQM feature, fuel systems with drop tanks, Air Marshal and even improved cloud technology. All of which I hope to show you pictures of in upcoming Developer Diaries.

[Uufflakke]

4 hours ago, [APAF]VR_Spartan85 said:

Hello!   
so I see the TeamFusion updates regarding their cloud tech to using TrueSky…

 

 

 

TrueSky has not been confirmed by TeamFusion.

The topic's title and shown TrueSky demo video is confusing.

 

 

Read here:

 

Edited August 3, 2021 by Uufflakke

[Jade_Monkey]

7 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Dev Diary 284 (5 weeks ago):

 

Yeah and fuel systems and Air Marshal have been in the works for who knows how long. Just temper your expectations for how soon clouds will be released, that's all I'm saying.

[Uufflakke]

1 minute ago, Jade_Monkey said:

 

Yeah and fuel systems and Air Marshal have been in the works for who knows how long. Just temper your expectations for how soon clouds will be released, that's all I'm saying.

 

In the meantime rowdyb00t's cloud mod is a good alternative to stock clouds.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2021 by Uufflakke

[76IAP-Black]

If you compare game development from the past and today, you will notice the difference.

In the past the game was developed, maybe patched and that's it ... next
today the games are way more complex and they are under constant development and as somebody before said, i'm thankfull for the way il2 is going!
It is a constant improvement and implementation of more complex mechanics. 

Im curious where we will end up

[Art-J]

4 minutes ago, Uufflakke said:

TrueSky has not been confirmed by TeamFusion.

The topic's title and shown TrueSky demo video is confusing.

 

Nah, Buzzsaw and Pattle have been posting about TrueSky numerous times for at least a year. Not to mention WIP screenshots published last Sunday and today a few hours ago. It's coming, but let's wait and see how it's going to work and look like.

[Uufflakke]

2 minutes ago, Art-J said:

 

Nah, Buzzsaw and Pattle have been posting about TrueSky numerous times for at least a year. Not to mention WIP screenshots published last Sunday and today a few hours ago. It's coming, but let's wait and see how it's going to work and look like.

 

That is interesting news.

Any links to the source?

I've searched probably not good enough.

[catchthefoxes]

I'm sure they're are working on the clouds right now but its probably not their biggest priority, my guess is to help with the clouds bouncing or boiling but it be pretty awesome to see them visually improved!! eg: better shading and more realistic shapes/ overall look, not that we already don't have that but I imagine it would be way better than what we have now, but the clouds are already pretty great!

[Jason_Williams]

We have our own clouds system and yes we are working on a new version of it that shows a lot of promise in our early tests. We so far have not seen the need to invest in True Sky which is a third party system. Our clouds and just about anyone else who makes clouds uses a similar bit of technology so there is no big new magic here. However, I look forward to seeing TFS' result working with it and best of luck to them in that endeavor.

 

Jason

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

1 hour ago, Uufflakke said:

 

That is interesting news.

Any links to the source?

I've searched probably not good enough.

Check the Announcements and Updates forum for Cliffs of Dover. It‘s at the bottom of the forum list (or use the link). There are two threads already showing stuff (not pinned). The ones with the most recent comments right now.

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/121-announcements-and-updates/

Edited August 3, 2021 by 9./JG52_J-HAT
The third, pinned, thread is for 4k textures

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

5 hours ago, Jason_Williams said:

We have our own clouds system and yes we are working on a new version of it that shows a lot of promise in our early tests. We so far have not seen the need to invest in True Sky which is a third party system. Our clouds and just about anyone else who makes clouds uses a similar bit of technology so there is no big new magic here. However, I look forward to seeing TFS' result working with it and best of luck to them in that endeavor.

 

Jason

This is awesome to hear!!!! Ok, I’m content

[Oyster_KAI]

I think the IL-2 GB cloud has a pretty good essence and a good-looking shape.
The only drawback is the boiling edge and the donuts at a specific time.
rowdyb00t's cloud mod has solved these shortcomings and added more light and shadow effects.
I am sure that devs can do more than this.

[Avimimus]

I knew they'd do it in house!!  

[TheAngryGamer_VR]

Very excited about the new clouds. It's almost as exciting as the mud puddles introduced to War Blunder while they were ignoring so many long lasting bugs and problems with their games behavior. 

[Noisemaker]

2 minutes ago, TheAngryGamer said:

Very excited about the new clouds. It's almost as exciting as the mud puddles introduced to War Blunder while they were ignoring so many long lasting bugs and problems with their games behavior. 

How are you still not banned?

[PatrickAWlson]

4 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

How are you still not banned?

 

Could be because of his charm.  Could be the reasoned and thoughtful manner in which he presents his arguments.  Could be the great contributions he has made in his 29 posts.  Or it could be that the moderators were busy and hadn't gotten around to it yet.

 

To be fair, he was not the one spewing obscenities.  Or he had the sense to crate a dummy account before he did.  Still, a couple more posts and the DD thread will get moved under complaints too.

[TheAngryGamer_VR]

9 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

How are you still not banned?

You get banned around here for being excited about clouds? I was hoping to fly around and find one that looked like a bunny rabbit. 

[Noisemaker]

4 minutes ago, TheAngryGamer said:

You get banned around here for being excited about clouds? I was hoping to fly around and find one that looked like a bunny rabbit. 

Oh, so clever.

Give it a break. There are people here who are apparently a lot smarter and obviously much better raised, helping to bring up issues with the sim in a polite and precise manner, than you.  You're just noise, and you're not helping.

Man, I'd hate to be the one that gets this thread locked.  Sorry guys and gals.

[TheAngryGamer_VR]

4 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

Give it a break. There are people here who are apparently a lot smarter and obviously much better raised, helping to bring up issues with the sim in a polite and precise manner, than you.  You're just noise, and you're not helping.

But wait, aren't you the Noisemaker? I think you are a bit confused.  Either way, gonna go look for those bunnies.