Developer Diary 288 - Discussion

[AEthelraedUnraed]

Some nice AT obstacles there, and at least the Czech Hedgehog should be very useable to add some flavour to the other maps as well.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Great developer diary! I love the new aircraft of course but it's also great to see these other details like the radars, temporary harbours, cathedrals, etc. Makes for a complete experience.

[Voyager]

Is there any information on what engines will be available for the Dh.4? I gather the preferred Eagle VIII was not as available as wished, so it ended up with a pretty wide array of different power plants. 

 

If this is a successful plane, I'd suspect the US made Liberty powered DH.4's would be a fun premium plane. Apparently they also often switched the pilot and fuel tank position so it had a pretty distinctive look too. 

[Denum]

Well. I hope the crew was able to take some time off.

 

I squeaked out for a two week rest and the first week back was like a tsunami..

[=AD=uumembwa]

I see on the first screen... Can we use this things to drive into the ship, do you know what i am saying, on the tank inside the ship it will be possibly?

[Alexander9822]

Can we expect the Flak truck soon? since it is basically complete looking at the pictures.

[ShamrockOneFive]

2 hours ago, Alexander9822 said:

Can we expect the Flak truck soon? since it is basically complete looking at the pictures.

 

Best guess is that the Sd.Kfz. 10/5 Flak 38, SPAD 7 and DH4 are all going to come in a patch by the end of August. Maybe the P-51B as well.

 

I should stress that this is a guess.

Edited July 31, 2021 by ShamrockOneFive

[dburne]

All looking great, very exciting !!

[R7-S276]

Good news and nice work, but I still not understand why the B-25 and the announced B-26 are AI airplane and not fly able… still wish one day the copilot seat (and radio/navigator) could be occupied by human and not only AI.

[ScotsmanFlyingscotsman]

Excellent information update, looking forward to the Mustang, like all the new flak vehicles, just wish you flak guys were not so accurate! IMHO yes the beaches look deserted but it would be a frame by frame stutter stagger by instead of a fast flyby, unless we can all beam forward to around the year 2525, when the CPU's are up scratch!

[Diggun]

Anyone figured out where that Mustang is flying over? Doesn't look like Rhineland to me...

Edited July 31, 2021 by Diggun

[Cybermat47]

5 minutes ago, Diggun said:

Anyone figured out where that Mustang is flying over? Doesn't look like Rhineland to me...

 

Could be Rhineland, there are some islands off the Dutch coast.

[FAW-Tromplamort]

I'm quite surprised to see the cathedral of Evreux so nicely modeled as I believed that Evreux wasn't on the map for Battle of Normandy or on the very border.

And as I live in the vicinity of Evreux I can tell that the cathedral is quite accurately modeled well done guys! One question will you model as well the norman Beffroi who is another unique landmark of the city?

 

All in all I can't wait to fly over my homeland in the virtual sky of Il2 Great Battle.

[Jade_Monkey]

57 minutes ago, FAW-Tromplamort said:

I'm quite surprised to see the cathedral of Evreux so nicely modeled as I believed that Evreux wasn't on the map for Battle of Normandy or on the very border.

And as I live in the vicinity of Evreux I can tell that the cathedral is quite accurately modeled well done guys! One question will you model as well the norman Beffroi who is another unique landmark of the city?

 

All in all I can't wait to fly over my homeland in the virtual sky of Il2 Great Battle.

 

Good news, the initial tentative map was updated soon after the Normandy announcement and it looks like Evreux is safely within the new map's borders. 

 

 

 

[ilmavoimat]

It's a shame that Amiens is off the Eastern edge of the updated map though, it means Operation Jericho is off the menu!

[DN308]

1 hour ago, Jade_Monkey said:

 

Good news, the initial tentative map was updated soon after the Normandy announcement and it looks like Evreux is safely within the new map's borders. 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, my birth’s home is still out range of the map.

4 minutes ago, ilmavoimat said:

It's a shame that Amiens is off the Eastern edge of the updated map though, it means Operation Jericho is off the menu!

You’re right. It makes me a little bit disappointed

[BlitzPig_EL]

If Amiens was on the map, the devs would be forced to do central Paris in detail.  Willing to wait another year for that to the exclusion of everything else?

Edited July 31, 2021 by BlitzPig_EL

[ilmavoimat]

Fair point, it wasn't a criticism just an observation. I'm still barely holding my fudge waiting for the C-47!!?

Edited July 31, 2021 by ilmavoimat

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

If Amiens was on the map, the devs would be forced to do central Paris in detail.  Willing to wait another year for that to the exclusion of everything else?

 

...and buy a new computer

13 hours ago, Voyager said:

Is there any information on what engines will be available for the Dh.4? I gather the preferred Eagle VIII was not as available as wished, so it ended up with a pretty wide array of different power plants. 

 

If this is a successful plane, I'd suspect the US made Liberty powered DH.4's would be a fun premium plane. Apparently they also often switched the pilot and fuel tank position so it had a pretty distinctive look too. 

 

I assume Rolls Royce Eagle VII rated at 275hp (320hp at 1800 RPM), since that was the case in Rise of Flight.

 

Honestly, the biggest need in engine variants is to have some weaker engined allied two-seaters (especially the Sopwith Strutter) in order to ensure there will be at least a few targets that Central Powers aircraft can catch.

 

Of course the Camel, S.E.5 and Pfalz D.XII could all also do with having some of their more common engine variants available (although technically the S.E.5 would be a different aircraft from the S.E.5a).

 

P.S.

We could also do with an early war slow Central Power two seater, however that would be an entirely new aircraft (e.g. Pfalz E.II, LVG C.II), to act as a target for the Sikorsky and Airco someday - even just as AI aircraft it'd be great. Some B variants carried defensive guns - so they are also an option.

[BigMotor]

Really enjoy these updates, thanks Han.  So much work and you make it look easy but of course we know it is very hard. 

[THERION]

3 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

...and buy a new computer

 

... and still complaining about annoying stutters over cities?

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

RAF or USAF? Mixed up?

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, [-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR said:

Mixed up?

 

Nope

[Jaegermeister]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

Nope

 

Isn't that a Mustang Mk III?

[LukeFF]

49 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

Isn't that a Mustang Mk III?

 

Yes, the British designation for the P-51 B/C. 

[Gambit21]

On 7/31/2021 at 9:04 AM, BlitzPig_EL said:

If Amiens was on the map, the devs would be forced to do central Paris in detail.  Willing to wait another year for that to the exclusion of everything else?

 

Plus that operation would result in just how much time on-target for a given Mossie? It’s an interesting historical event but hardly something to make to drive map development.

 

What matters is critical to the mission infrastructure like the mo-flucken marshalling yards. I don’t give a rip about some prison building.

 

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

6 hours ago, [-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR said:

RAF or USAF? Mixed up?

 

Remember, the Mustang came about because the British Purchasing Commission was looking for a company to license build more P-40's because they needed more fighters. North American answered the call and said they could have their own fighter design up and running quickly and they succeeded. The first Mustang's in combat service were with the RAF.

 

By the Normandy 1944 timeline, over a dozen squadrons were equipped with the P-51B also known as the Mustang Mark III. These included around a half dozen Polish/RAF units. They were used for everything from tactical fighter-bombing to fighter sweeps and escort.

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

Raf with stripes that confused a bit. 

[II./SG.1-MarkWilhelmsson]

I recall hearing somewhere that the Mustang without tail fillet had poor dive characteristics because it did porpoise radically during high speed dives. Is that truth?

[ShamrockOneFive]

1 hour ago, II./SG.1-MarkWilhelmsson said:

I recall hearing somewhere that the Mustang without tail fillet had poor dive characteristics because it did porpoise radically during high speed dives. Is that truth?

 

That'd be the early P-51D. (See report: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/mustangIV-divetest.html)

 

The P-51B doesn't need a tail fillet because it has the whole fuselage back there. The A/B/C models had better stability but poorer rear visibility. The D model cut down the fuselage for better visibility and then they later learned that it needed the fillet to resolve the stability problem. It was then retrofitted onto earlier models.

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

RAF stripe?

[DBFlyguy]

2 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

That'd be the early P-51D. (See report: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mustang/mustangIV-divetest.html)

 

The P-51B doesn't need a tail fillet because it has the whole fuselage back there. The A/B/C models had better stability but poorer rear visibility. The D model cut down the fuselage for better visibility and then they later learned that it needed the fillet to resolve the stability problem. It was then retrofitted onto earlier models.

 

The tail fillet was also retrofitted to the B and C as well just in smaller numbers since most were eventually replaced by D's, all versions of the P-51 had some sort of stability issues in slow flight (slow rolls), not just the D.

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, [-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR said:

RAF stripe?

 

The horizontal white ID stripe on the vertical stab was typically a USAAF thing, not an RAF one.  There were a few RAF squadrons that had horizontal stripes on the vertical stab but not white, but maybe this could just be a generic "placeholder" skin?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[ShamrockOneFive]

2 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

The tail fillet was also retrofitted to the B and C as well just in smaller numbers since most were eventually replaced by D's, all versions of the P-51 had some sort of stability issues in slow flight (slow rolls), not just the D.

 

Oh, now that's interesting. I didn't know that!

[catchthefoxes]

 

3 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

 

The tail fillet was also retrofitted to the B and C as well just in smaller numbers since most were eventually replaced by D's, all versions of the P-51 had some sort of stability issues in slow flight (slow rolls), not just the D.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The horizontal white ID stripe on the vertical stab was typically a USAAF thing, not an RAF one.  There were a few RAF squadrons that had horizontal stripes on the vertical stab but not white, but maybe this could just be a generic "placeholder" skin?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Need one for the P-47 too. itd be cool to have it as a mod for the P-51 as well

[Javo0143]

Do you know guys what tanks are going to be added in Normandy? Just asking, im curious

[Thad]

Negative.

 

Most of us are hopeful for some new tanks though. 

[Jade_Monkey]

2 hours ago, Javo0143 said:

Do you know guys what tanks are going to be added in Normandy? Just asking, im curious

 

If you are thinking of AI tanks, I don't know if anything is planned but I guess the Firefly the Churchill, the king tiger and the stug are good candidates.

 

If you are thinking of playable tanks, that is not part of BoN development. It could be a future tank crew installment if there is an appetite for it.

[Gambit21]

We were told that with Normandy will come many “tanks and vehicles” however I took that to mean AI.

[[F.Circus]FrangibleCover]

On 7/31/2021 at 4:52 PM, ilmavoimat said:

It's a shame that Amiens is off the Eastern edge of the updated map though, it means Operation Jericho is off the menu!

Personally I shall be bombing Rouen, it's about the same distance inland as Amiens and has a convenient cross shaped building to use as a target!

[DD_Arthur]

45 minutes ago, [F.Circus]FrangibleCover said:

Personally I shall be bombing Rouen, it's about the same distance inland as Amiens and has a convenient cross shaped building to use as a target!

 

I’m looking forward to bombing Hastings.

As a kid, once a month for years and years we’d have to pile in the family car and drive from London to Hastings so grandma could try and poison us with her cooking.

Followed by a hyperthermia inducing walk amongst the tank traps on the beach?

 

”Come friendly bombs, let them rain on Hastings...”

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