"FURY" first official trailer... opinions?

[Bearcat]

I know it's not a popular thing to say but he's a damn good actor IMO.

Versatile too.

 

I agree.. one of my favorite actors..

 

At least it's not Tarantino's. 

AA_Engadin

 

Whassamatter you some kinda Natziluver or sumptin? I want my scalps!!!!

 

Give me "Kelly's Heroes" any day rather than this tosh.

Oh for a tankie movie or mini series on the level of "Band of Brothers" .

 

What they need to do is get a good director.. and a good script writer and do a film based on this book:

 

Brothers in Arms

 

 

No offence to the Yanks but I think I'm gonna puke if I see another movie or series focusing on them, there is only so much chest punching one can take, let's have a true story for a change.

 

I here Brits express this sentiment way too much.. and then I wonder why instead of bashing and complaining about American movies Brits don't make their own movies and tell their own story..

 

Another typical US-Hollywood crap about WW2 to represent the brave and hillarious and infamous super tough US troops facing the horrible and throughout bad Nazi scum , which actually were either wounded veterans with wooden legs ,2nd class or 16-17 yrs old boys.

Yes, that is what was needed next.

Wondering when we ll be able to consume a Hollywood movie about the US failure in Iraq? What is the incubation time about? 20 years, like Vietnam movies?

 

You can't be serious...

 

I guess Britain will have to make a war movie if one wants to see other than Yanks.

 

I really really wish someone over there would so that maybe some of the more vocal critics can finally STFU about the American ones.. _{I'm just sayin..}

 

I thought folks werer going to loose their friggin minds when Tom Cruise was going to be in a BoB film.. that never even happened.

 

My problem with these WWII flicks is that the men I knew for that era (father and his relatives) didn't talk that way. They didn't cuss as bad as people do today, and they certainly didn't sit around and delve deep into the philosophical issues of war. A joke here and there, but no deep discussions, especially since most had basic educations. They were mostly reticent about the war.

 

I agree.. I met a few guys from Band of Brothers before they passed away and to a man that was one beef they all had with the series.

[Finkeren]

I don't think there is any need to bash "American" war movies in general. American productions include things like "Generation Kill" (likely the most realistic portrayal of a modern war ever made) and "Apocalypse Now" (while not remotely realistic or historically accurate is one of the greatest and most complex epics ever put on the big screen)

 

My beef is chiefly with "Hollywood" (understood as the main stream of U.S. movie industry) who follows a set of conventions that makes it rather unsuited for making a great war movie.

 

Their best attempt was propably "Saving Private Ryan", which despite its many obvious qualities is still a preposterous fairy tale of heroism that ends on the same triumphant note that most Hollywood movies do.

[Bearcat]

How is that .. just about every body died except the guy who was in the beginning of the movie as an old man.. The coward who found his balls at te end of the movie lived.. and probably ran for political office later... but the rest of thye guys who set out to save Ryan died ,,, I think there was one guy who lived. Sure there were some technical issues.. that would only be noticed by folks who know better.. but all in all it was a decent Hollywood offering IMO.. decent enough..

[Cybermat47]

Realistic? No.

 

Enjoyable? Let's see.

[Finkeren]

Decent enough, absolutely, even spectacular as an action movie. I just think it falls short as a movie about war.

 

And how does it not end on a triumphant note? The squad sent on a meaningless mission suddenly finds a "meaning" in fighting a battle against imposible odds, sacrifice themselves valiantly and their objective is saved at the ladt moment by the "cavalry" in the form of tank-busting P-51s (bah).

[Cybermat47]

Whassamatter you some kinda Natziluver or sumptin? I want my scalps!!!!

 

Inglorious Basterds was better when someone made the hero a rival Hitler. Just watch XD

 

Edited June 28, 2014 by [AJSA]_Cybermat47

[MarcoRossolini]

How is that .. just about every body died except the guy who was in the beginning of the movie as an old man.. The coward who found his balls at te end of the movie lived.. and probably ran for political office later... but the rest of thye guys who set out to save Ryan died ,,, I think there was one guy who lived. Sure there were some technical issues.. that would only be noticed by folks who know better.. but all in all it was a decent Hollywood offering IMO.. decent enough..

 

As I understand the film, a unit is sent out to recover one guy ... Would any army willingly send off a whole unit of soldiers just to bring one guy back?

That seems like a tremendous waste of resources and a totally weird perspective to take. There's thousands of guys dying around you everyday, why would you care about one more of them? It's cold hearted but why the special attention to one person when 2700 around him are dying each day.

[DD_bongodriver]

I here Brits express this sentiment way too much.. and then I wonder why instead of bashing and complaining about American movies Brits don't make their own movies and tell their own story..

 

 it's not about jealousy because they don't make movies about Brits, it's about whenever you read the lines 'based on a true story' in the title credits you realise it means 'actually this involved some other nation but we jazzed it up a bit and made the story our own....OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEE!'

 

The British do make movies and drama series etc on our very limited budgets.

Edited June 28, 2014 by DD_bongodriver

[DD_bongodriver]

As I understand the film, a unit is sent out to recover one guy ... Would any army willingly send off a whole unit of soldiers just to bring one guy back?

That seems like a tremendous waste of resources and a totally weird perspective to take. There's thousands of guys dying around you everyday, why would you care about one more of them? It's cold hearted but why the special attention to one person when 2700 around him are dying each day.

 

It's fiction, it's based or real events, but they never sent anyone out to pick up the last Brother, they simply withdrew him from combat.

[FlatSpinMan]

I'm from New Zealand. I'm neither British,nor American.

With that said, please stop throwing in the "Why do Americans make war movies featuring Americans prominently?" comments.

We all know there were millions of other stories that would be fantastic to see, and that would really add to people's understanding of the war and humanity, but the fact is that no-one makes them. Don't criticise Americans for making movies of Americans for Americans.

 

Personally I'm waiting for a LW Battle of Britain or North Africa movie,featuring Willi Jedermann. I think you'll find my licensing fees and merchandising rights very reasonable.

[MarcoRossolini]

It might be fiction, but there has to be some suspension of disbelief...

[DD_bongodriver]

 

 

movies of Americans for Americans.

 

missed the point somewhat, always happens, everyone reads the same thing into it every time, it not about resenting americans for making movies about americans, its about being annoyed when americans make movies based on other people but turn them into americans, like U-571 etc.

 

even hollywood admit they do it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0bZ6Idfqt8

It might be fiction, but there has to be some suspension of disbelief...

 

I think the suspension of disbelief is expected to come from the partial truth of the story, the mission is the only fantasy, the rest of the movie is quite a convincing portrayal of the experiences of that time.

[sturmkraehe]

Churchill - The Holywood Years looks funny.

 

There had been some American war movies not about Americans, but even on the opposite side:

 

The remake of "All quiet the Western front"

 

The excellent "Letters from Iwo Jima"

 

Or the brilliant "Paths of Glory" showing French troops if my memory serves me right.

 

More recent: "Black Hawk Down" was not really that patriotic either imho and provided a well narrated real story without relying too much on sentimentality.

 

I think the UK/German movie "The Cross of Iron" was not bad either showing a more down to Earth war movie from the "other side"

 

The pitty is that the US has the means and the talents to do great war movies but they too often take the easy path of just playing the patriotic chords drawing a simplified black-white picture (the good vs the evil) and tend to increase the "value" of the hero by making him beat all odds and try to surpass each other by inventing new ways for the hero to sacrifice himself selflessly for some "higher good" - whatever they present as such.

 

And I really enjoyed Inglorios Basterds. Not as good as "Django Unchained" but entertaining enough!

Edited June 28, 2014 by sturmkraehe

[FlatSpinMan]

I'm never a huge fan of particular actors, but I couldn't get enough of Christoph Waltz' performance in Basterds. He just bowled me over. Also has an uncanny resemblance to a former manager.

I'm saving Django for the summer holidays. I've heard great things about it.

[Finkeren]

If you thought Waltz was great in 'Basterds', you're gonna looooveeee him in 'Django'.

[sturmkraehe]

Yes, Django, imho is one of Tarantino's best movies. And it is not only just a typical Tarantino story. It deals with a part of History that is rarely portraied. My guess is that American movies deal about 100 times more with Nazi stories and 20 times more with the Vietnam war than with the history of slavery. (and the number of stories about the tragedy that Native Americans experienced in 19th century are close to zero). A part from that Tarantino manages to not use the story as a means to just do another Tarantino movie. He does do some fine portrayal of what slavery was - of course always in Tarantino style. One of my favorite movies of the last years. Christoph Waltz is great in this movie - however, I think he should stopp to continue to portray in this way. Otherwise it might just get boring.

Edited June 28, 2014 by sturmkraehe

[Finkeren]

Not to forget the brilliant performance by Leonardo DiCaprio (where is that Oscar already?)

 

The scene where he breaks the glass during his monologue was supposedly unscripted, he broke it by accident and just continued acting with blood running down his hand.

[FlatSpinMan]

I was a fan of "Reservoir Dogs", was blown away by "Pulp fiction" - still possibly my favourite movie, though that may due to the fact it dominated my university years, - and hae heard such good things about "Django". After the huge, huge disappointments of Kill Bill, Grindhouse etc, and "Inglorious Basterds" (when Christoph Waltz or Michael Fassbender weren't on screen), I'm desperate for another great work, and everyone says it is.

[SPRCrash_Nemesis]

I made a film loosely based on a South African pilot who volunteered to fly for the RAF.

 

Film was released in Germany, UK and USA and other countries on DVD and BluRay. It's my first film and I made the film for $40 000. *Yes, that is Fourty Thousand. Not million. So don't expect Hollywood actors and effects. Did all the Visual Effects myself at home on my PC. 

 

Here is the German trailer

 

 

and for those of you who want the English.

 

Edited July 14, 2014 by SPRCrash_Nemesis

[II./JG27_Rich]

OOPS  

 

 "Fury"
Release Date: Nov. 12
Starring: Brad Pitt, Shia LaBeouf, Logan Lerman, Jon Bernthal
Director: David Ayer
The Scoop: One of two 2014 offerings from "End of Watch" writer-director David Ayer (the other being the Schwarzenegger vehicle "Sabotage," which didn't make our list), "Fury" takes place during the last days of World War II as a hardened American tank commander (Pitt) leads a unit of five soldiers behind enemy lines as Nazi Germany collapses around them. The film snagged some bad press when the rather explosive production made a ton of racket whilst shooting during the early hours of Remembrance Day, observed in Commonwealth countries in memory of those members of the armed forces who died in the line of duty.

Edited July 18, 2014 by II./JG27_Rich

[II./JG27_Rich]

I made a film loosely based on a South African pilot who volunteered to fly for the RAF.

 

Film was released in Germany, UK and USA and other countries on DVD and BluRay. It's my first film and I made the film for $40 000. *Yes, that is Fourty Thousand. Not million. So don't expect Hollywood actors and effects. Did all the Visual Effects myself at home on my PC. 

 

Here is the German trailer

 

 

and for those of you who want the English.

 

Nope.....

[Rigel]

Upcoming Russian film about Moscow defense.

[Feathered_IV]

Looks like you put a lot of effort in there, SPRCrash_Nemesis.  The 1940 Emils fighting USAAF bombers in RAF night markings in daylight during 1944 is a very unusual choice however.

[Johnny_Red]

As I understand the film, a unit is sent out to recover one guy ... Would any army willingly send off a whole unit of soldiers just to bring one guy back?

That seems like a tremendous waste of resources and a totally weird perspective to take. There's thousands of guys dying around you everyday, why would you care about one more of them? It's cold hearted but why the special attention to one person when 2700 around him are dying each day.

Would any army willingly send off a whole unit of soldiers just to bring one guy back? In the vietnam war when a pilot was shot down there was a huge effort involving many aircraft and airmen to rescue that 1 pilot. So yeah, they would. 

Just realized how old this thread was.

Edited August 6, 2014 by Johnny_Red

[Krause]

Really great suggenstions in this topic

 

And yeah Generation War was a good one (Unsere Mütter, Unsere Väter)

 

btw.. Tarantino is God!

Edited August 7, 2014 by Krause

[oneeyeddog]

I made a film loosely based on a South African pilot who volunteered to fly for the RAF.

 

Film was released in Germany, UK and USA and other countries on DVD and BluRay. It's my first film and I made the film for $40 000. *Yes, that is Fourty Thousand. Not million. So don't expect Hollywood actors and effects. Did all the Visual Effects myself at home on my PC. 

 

Here is the German trailer

 

 

and for those of you who want the English.

 

Awesome SPRCrash, I'll have to look for it. Thanks for posting.

[oneeyeddog]

I recall a pretty good movie,' When Trumpets Fade ',based on the fighting in the Hurtgen Forest during WW2. 

[oneeyeddog]

It's fiction, it's based or real events, but they never sent anyone out to pick up the last Brother, they simply withdrew him from combat.

 I thought the basic idea was based on the Sullivans, 5 brothers who all served aboard the Juneua, and all 5 perished when she was sunk by the Japanese.

[Sokol1]

Well at least the Tiger in the movie is real:

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-24987676

 

 "Outnumbered and outgunned" in April 1945... Itter Castle VIP French POW rescue?

 

Sokol1

[FlyingNutcase]

Upcoming Russian film about Moscow defense.

 

That has a very real feel to it. Hopefully the story will be as engaging, even if it is in Russian only. :-\

[Brano]

The story is based on very famous action of small unit of men defending Moscow in winter 1941.I am really interested in how they will depict it,as the story was strongly misused by war propaganda .

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panfilov's_Twenty-Eight_Guardsmen

 

Btw that Fury film looks great,big bucket of popcorn an liter of fanta and come on Brad,impress me

[sturmkraehe]

+1

I'd like to see the Germans make a good Air War over Germany film.

 

I am not sure if you know what you wish for If you have ever seen the German Red Baron movie you would change your mind. They managed to turn Richthofen in a peace loving, war hating boy and stuck a pointless love story in it. I'd rather prefer another unrealistic over-patriotic american movie.

[Tompa_73]

Check out the miniseries "Generation War" entirely German and pretty good IMO

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

http://www.musicboxfilms.com/generation-war-movies-80.php?showPressPage=true

[II./JG27_Rich]

Agreed.

 

 

http://www.musicboxfilms.com/generation-war-movies-80.php?showPressPage=true

Agree also I have it on disk

 

Edited August 10, 2014 by II./JG27_Rich

[sturmkraehe]

Didn't know that it was out for non-German speakers. Had been a great success on public funded television and one of the handfull examples that allow to say that my TV fees have been well spent. 

[steppenwolf]

Looks like a war flick, thankfully idealized and philosophically commercialized. The real thing is nothing I'd want to see, unless I just had to feed the Beast. Pitts best movie has to be Fight Club IMO. 

[LastRightsXIII]

I made a film loosely based on a South African pilot who volunteered to fly for the RAF.

 

Film was released in Germany, UK and USA and other countries on DVD and BluRay. It's my first film and I made the film for $40 000. *Yes, that is Fourty Thousand. Not million. So don't expect Hollywood actors and effects. Did all the Visual Effects myself at home on my PC. 

 

Here is the German trailer

 

 

and for those of you who want the English.

 

!Great job!

My wife and I watched this just a few months back. We both enjoyed it.

I think it was on amazon prime.

Edited August 10, 2014 by LastRights13

[II./JG27_Rich]

Looks like a war flick, thankfully idealized and philosophically commercialized. The real thing is nothing I'd want to see, unless I just had to feed the Beast. Pitts best movie has to be Fight Club IMO. 

I like Moneyball but then I like Baseball.....Mark Fydrich kind of Baseball  In that one year 1976 he pumped so much fun back into Baseball it was like he was from another planet.  Moneyball kind of reminded me of that crazy year

Edited August 10, 2014 by II./JG27_Rich

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Holy cow, did you just mention The Bird in an aviation forum..............NICE!! I lived in Ypsi as a nine year old in '76.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

I made a film loosely based on a South African pilot who volunteered to fly for the RAF.

 

Film was released in Germany, UK and USA and other countries on DVD and BluRay. It's my first film and I made the film for $40 000. *Yes, that is Fourty Thousand. Not million. So don't expect Hollywood actors and effects. Did all the Visual Effects myself at home on my PC. 

 

Here is the German trailer

Idea is not bad but 1939 Bf109 Es vs Liberators? They should have been fitted with Friedrichs at least to match a 1941 scenario, Emils were never intendet for bomber interception (and already withdrawn from service by late 1941).

 

Don't knwo if the excution scene in the trailer appeals to me...sure modern movies always need "bad guys" to be comfronted with the "heroes", but I'm sure I'm not the only one not wanting to see germans as "bad guys" screaming fanatic paroles and punishing / killing people in complete arbitrariness in every movie about WW2.

 

Just my 2ct on the trailer, not the movie itself (haven't seen it yet actually)

Edited August 11, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuka