What plane do you wish for?

[ShamrockOneFive]

This is one of those sim world type things that gamers might not quite understand (it's a blurry line sometimes). It's often not about the performance... it's about the aircraft and the history. In IL-2 1946 we have such a range of aircraft and some of them are quite slow, some of them are terrible, some of them are poorly armed, and there are a great many of us who love flying them all. Not because they are good but because they are interesting. In combat sometimes it's preferable to survive combat in a "crap plane" than shoot down 3-4 enemies in the best aircraft available.

 

It's even sweeter when you walk away with a single kill while flying the worst aircraft available.

 

So I can see a great many people taking interest in the IAR80/81, or MiG-3, or I-16, or whatever it is that we get later.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Oh... I'm not sure how often it has come up but I have a bit of a love of bombers and attack aircraft even if they aren't as glamorous as the fighters. I'd love to see an IL-4 in the game. I feel like we just got one in IL-2 1946 (it's been a couple of years but its still new to me) and it's been a great thing to have in addition to the Pe-2. They are very different aircraft.

[Otto_Matix]

I'd like to see the Me-262 after the game has developed to a point where it would be relevant. 

 

Maybe at the same time we could see V-1 and V-2 using AI.  I look forward to seeing what this game becomes.

 

S!~ and good hunting

J9 Austin

[Johnny_Red]

Interesting avatar Jasta. WTF!

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

69.GIAP, If  you want to hear more unbiased comments regarding the superiority of the P-51. Read what the polish pilots remarks had to say. The same pilot flew their own aircraft along with French, British and US including the P-40,P-47 and P-51 . "The P-51 was the best fighter of WW II , with the Jug as runner up". This coming from pilots who  were the first to shoot down a Luftwaffe aircraft in WW II. In fact, the 303 squadron ( Polish) achieved top score ( most confirmed victories) over any RAF squadron in the Battle of Britain. Imagine if the were allowed to participate in the first half of  BOB.

 

Probably would have been difficult for the Poles to fly an aircraft that didn't exist in the period that the battle occurred.

[Johnny_Red]

Probably would have been difficult for the Poles to fly an aircraft that didn't exist in the period that the battle occurred.

I'm pretty sure they all didn't die in the battle of britain and had the opportunity to fly the aircraft later in the war

Edited July 21, 2014 by Johnny_Red

[pencon]

I say bring on the i16 ,Even the engine cutting out at negative gs and then smoking black . It's got more character than  any of the current planes . Oh and also  need the MC200 (not the craptacular fiat g50 )

Edited July 21, 2014 by pencon

[Gambit21]

The I16 is coming.

[71st_AH_Hooves]

I'm still a huge fan of a lend lease pack. That could really open up the options. That and an actual map creator. So that people can create new theaters for the new aircraft. Of course that would be taking money out of their pockets for dlc. But I think the difference in revenue from greater purchases would make up for it.

[hiro]

+1 on lend lease

 

i want my p-39. maneuverable and the ever present one shot cannon . . . its hard to make a shot but when it does . . . 

 

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/index.htm

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/part2.htm

 

 

 

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black magic for jg / no wat for vvs only  vvs sqn!

 

love vashikaran figher bomber specialist, black magic for night fighting | get your radar love back

 

all problem solved just call 1-800-len-leas

 

guru kitty hawk@love ace problem soluion specialist .

 

solution of all your ground problems with the power of bombrack baba. He solve all your problems with turning fighter into bomber! if you are not able to understand why figher ace must go ground pound then God made mma your medium. 

 

You will get everything to fulfill your tank killing desire within 3 days. For that we need faith and trust. I will not let your faith be lost on rockets. Get the rocket rack solution thorugh systematic fire control systems.

 

World famous passed through india to get to china for chennault plane, baba, lend lease from America / Canada / Austrailia / UK / USA for international world war. 35 years of combined aircraft design. 

 

black magic radard specialist for night fighter. so much ace the love marriage will be easy to get one war is over.

 

parents approval as boys can come home earlier due to power of aircrafts. get you love back for flying and acing. 

 

do you have disturbance in your force, or problems with death star bombers and not getting desired results of campaign? we solve all your problems by shipping good aircraft nobody wants. Here is your solution by lend lease proper FM. 

 

some like P-40 has fame and glamour, or the p-39 requires lots of luck and politics, and Spitfire fix life problems, or knowledge of THE Hurricane and sharknado. Know why we are fighting a war that will later connect the universe and bring greater understanding to human history. 

 

Homey violence and husband / wife flying will be doubt in illict relationships and engagement with crazy aces with more than 100. 

 

Hello can u disturb in your flight problems and not get desired kills? Here is the solution to all sim problems: 

 

1. shooting forever chipping away at planes big cannon for instant snapshot

 

2. intoxication, plane so easy to fly, drunk does no matter, its all good.

 

3. physical problems, p-40 can survive hit after hit ask no quesions

 

4. domestic controversy, american no like p-39 but like p-51, show p-39 is just as good

and prove to political office skill is same as soviet planenage

 

5. problems in family relationships; these planes return you back to her in one piece

 

6. promotions or willful marriage: an ace helps, and these bring ace. plus ace is lady magnet and makers hers want you more

 

7. lottary or lucky numeber: you win here because better new best plane wins. 

 

8. psyche: defeat that fast roll rate with a plane just as good.

 

9. dream love: fly in dream machien yes

 

10. past life: before past life you would be shoot down. now you are shooting down

 

11. future life: future life as ace of aces

 

12. present life: nothing like presents like 5 kills merry chrissmas early

 

14. dispute between husband and wife: she will be happy you return, dispute always if die

 

15. foreign planning: you can tell roosevelt and churchill you kill more with non used planes they like to give for free

 

16. Dhan lab,secret treasory: secret planes here, not in luftwaffle or in 1946 but now present

 

18 .Business problem: because can't count. but real business problem if no lend lease and you lose war

 

17:= Problem in husband wife: husband may not like wife being better ace than him in her new best plane

 

19:= Foreign traveling: to enemy capital city is travelling too much across the paint to slam dunk; lend lease is safe and fast delivery

 

20:= Problem in study, because of factory move and engineer shot by great leader, lend lease gives quick study with good planes / easy to fly these .

 

 

21:= Problem as childless ; not shoot blanks because these fifty cals can kill tigers .all type problem solution by lend lease and ever present return home more often than not

 

 

Get all solutions in your war with in 24 hours flying from alaska and with 101% guaranteed. Works 60% of time ALL TIME! With in astro navigation and systematic radio call to guri and get advice from ace him. contect no:9-40p-395917f11238-25mitch

[Meteor2]

A Bf 110, equipped for a Jabo roll, would be fine.

[Mysticpuma]

P-47

[Meteor2]

P-47

 

A very good plane, indeed, but not for the Stalingrad area.

The land-leased P-47 were not use there (AFAIK).

[Finkeren]

A very good plane, indeed, but not for the Stalingrad area.

The land-leased P-47 were not use there (AFAIK).

 

Most definately not, since the P-47 wasn't even in combat service with the USAAF at the time of the Battle of Stalingrad

 

The approximately 200 VVS P-47s were in service from mid 1944 IIRC.

[=AVG=Zombie]

The mig at least..... P39 would be fricken sweet as well....

[=38=Tatarenko]

A very good plane, indeed, but not for the Stalingrad area.

The land-leased P-47 were not use there (AFAIK).

No indeed. In fact most went to naval units as recon and one fighter-bomber unit in the far north.

[SpookyRiddle]

Personally I'm hoping to see the: 

 

P40, I16, P39 and the IL4 for the Soviets.

 

JU52, BF110, DO-217 and the JU88 for the Axis.

 

Would make for a good starting list anyway

Edited July 21, 2014 by ASDSpookyRiddle

[72sq_Savinio]

A Zero,

 

+1

 

... and obiuvsly a carrier to take of.

[AH_JimDandy]

I will be very happy with the BF109 G2 and FW190 A3, 2 of the best serial front line fighters during the war.

 

"Bear"

[sasser8038]

bf109g - k

spitfire

me 262

p51

But it will be sometime to see some of these aircraft on the game

 

[sallee]

Interesting avatar Jasta. WTF!

Erm, yes. Couldn't find one of Rolf Harris?

 

 

+1 on lend lease

 

i want my p-39. maneuverable and the ever present one shot cannon . . . its hard to make a shot but when it does . . . 

 

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/index.htm

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/romanenko/p-39/part2.htm

 

 

 

-----------

black magic for jg / no wat for vvs only  vvs sqn!

 

love vashikaran figher bomber specialist, black magic for night fighting | get your radar love back

 

all problem solved just call 1-800-len-leas

 

guru kitty hawk@love ace problem soluion specialist .

 

solution of all your ground problems with the power of bombrack baba. He solve all your problems with turning fighter into bomber! if you are not able to understand why figher ace must go ground pound then God made mma your medium. 

 

You will get everything to fulfill your tank killing desire within 3 days. For that we need faith and trust. I will not let your faith be lost on rockets. Get the rocket rack solution thorugh systematic fire control systems.

 

World famous passed through india to get to china for chennault plane, baba, lend lease from America / Canada / Austrailia / UK / USA for international world war. 35 years of combined aircraft design. 

 

black magic radard specialist for night fighter. so much ace the love marriage will be easy to get one war is over.

 

parents approval as boys can come home earlier due to power of aircrafts. get you love back for flying and acing. 

 

do you have disturbance in your force, or problems with death star bombers and not getting desired results of campaign? we solve all your problems by shipping good aircraft nobody wants. Here is your solution by lend lease proper FM. 

 

some like P-40 has fame and glamour, or the p-39 requires lots of luck and politics, and Spitfire fix life problems, or knowledge of THE Hurricane and sharknado. Know why we are fighting a war that will later connect the universe and bring greater understanding to human history. 

 

Homey violence and husband / wife flying will be doubt in illict relationships and engagement with crazy aces with more than 100. 

 

Hello can u disturb in your flight problems and not get desired kills? Here is the solution to all sim problems: 

 

1. shooting forever chipping away at planes big cannon for instant snapshot

 

2. intoxication, plane so easy to fly, drunk does no matter, its all good.

 

3. physical problems, p-40 can survive hit after hit ask no quesions

 

4. domestic controversy, american no like p-39 but like p-51, show p-39 is just as good

and prove to political office skill is same as soviet planenage

 

5. problems in family relationships; these planes return you back to her in one piece

 

6. promotions or willful marriage: an ace helps, and these bring ace. plus ace is lady magnet and makers hers want you more

 

7. lottary or lucky numeber: you win here because better new best plane wins. 

 

8. psyche: defeat that fast roll rate with a plane just as good.

 

9. dream love: fly in dream machien yes

 

10. past life: before past life you would be shoot down. now you are shooting down

 

11. future life: future life as ace of aces

 

12. present life: nothing like presents like 5 kills merry chrissmas early

 

14. dispute between husband and wife: she will be happy you return, dispute always if die

 

15. foreign planning: you can tell roosevelt and churchill you kill more with non used planes they like to give for free

 

16. Dhan lab,secret treasory: secret planes here, not in luftwaffle or in 1946 but now present

 

18 .Business problem: because can't count. but real business problem if no lend lease and you lose war

 

17:= Problem in husband wife: husband may not like wife being better ace than him in her new best plane

 

19:= Foreign traveling: to enemy capital city is travelling too much across the paint to slam dunk; lend lease is safe and fast delivery

 

20:= Problem in study, because of factory move and engineer shot by great leader, lend lease gives quick study with good planes / easy to fly these .

 

 

21:= Problem as childless ; not shoot blanks because these fifty cals can kill tigers .all type problem solution by lend lease and ever present return home more often than not

 

 

Get all solutions in your war with in 24 hours flying from alaska and with 101% guaranteed. Works 60% of time ALL TIME! With in astro navigation and systematic radio call to guri and get advice from ace him. contect no:9-40p-395917f11238-25mitch

 

 

[LizLemon]

The I16 is coming.

 

I wouldn't be too sure about this.

 

There are screenshots for the I-16 in Battle of Moscow (the game made by original Il2 devs) but these screenshots were by psy06, who is working on the DCS:WW2 game now. I don't think you can assume that 777 has been given all the models Maddox Games made. 

 

If 777 has to make an I-16, then it'll be a while. Most of the aircraft in BoS are models from Maddox Games Il2- Battle of Moscow, just simplified with reduced polycounts and reduced texture resolution. 

Edited July 21, 2014 by LizLemon

[migmadmarine]

Are you sure on that? I don't believe any of the old Maddox moddels were passed on to 777. 

[Finkeren]

It's got nothing to do with the Battle of Moscow project. Jason and Zak have both allured to the I-16 being one of the planes they consider for an early expansion.

 

Nothing is promised and nothing is certain, but there's reason to be hopeful.

[LizLemon]

Are you sure on that? I don't believe any of the old Maddox moddels were passed on to 777. 

 

They are.

 

I asked loft about this months ago and he confirmed it. The Yak, Lagg, 109, ect are from Battle of Moscow but with reduced polycount. The ground vehicles (tanks, trucks, ect) are taken from Theater of War - another 1c game. And the trains and some of the like are from Rise of Flight. 

[Shitigi]

mig-3

 

ever person in entire world know mig make best planes

 

way better then so make say american stealth plane. like anyone make plane not appear on radar lol

 

mig world famouos as best fighter. this is fact i think ))))

 

mig need to be in this game, but i think devs know to add great migs ))))

 

since they get great data from goverment, they are sure to add mig to game. This game made with russia money and russia people, so it will have mig i think. no i no it have mig ))))))))

[Johnny_Red]

I wouldn't be too sure about this.

 

There are screenshots for the I-16 in Battle of Moscow (the game made by original Il2 devs) but these screenshots were by psy06, who is working on the DCS:WW2 game now. I don't think you can assume that 777 has been given all the models Maddox Games made. 

 

If 777 has to make an I-16, then it'll be a while. Most of the aircraft in BoS are models from Maddox Games Il2- Battle of Moscow, just simplified with reduced polycounts and reduced texture resolution. 

Psy06 isn't working on dcs ww2 anymore. 

http://www.military-meshes.com/forum/showthread.php?7117-Our-6-years-work-for-simulators-)

He states the models now belong to 777. The stuff he did for dcs ww2 I assume now belong to eagle dynamics.

It seems some of the guys are out of work. I hope they find employment soon. Good luck to them.

[Trinkof]

I would say : 

 

Axis : 

 

IAR 80 (romanian) if enough data exist on its performance; it would be awesome and a "refreshing" aircraft, not often represented

Mc 202 !!!!

Bf109 E
Bf110
Ju88

USSR : 

P39 

Yak 9

I16

Pe2 Heavy fighter variant

Tu 2

 

These planes feets the timeframe of BOS, meaning the already done work on every plane ingame is not "lost" for a new campaign (KUBAN for example !!!!)

[=38=Tatarenko]

If you mean the Pe-3, there was only a single (unserviceable) example in the Stalingrad/Don area. Most by this time were in the far north of Russia.

[Alibaba]

mig3 with two swaks

[Finkeren]

mig3 with two swaks

 

As much as I love the Mig-3, I'd like to see a model that was a bit less obscure than the 50-something ShVAK armed ones. At least let's go for the 2xUBS version, of which over 300 were made. Far more common and with 1400 rounds of ammo, yummy!

[Gambit21]

I wouldn't be too sure about this.

 

It's coming

[Praetor]

This is one of those sim world type things that gamers might not quite understand (it's a blurry line sometimes). It's often not about the performance... it's about the aircraft and the history. In IL-2 1946 we have such a range of aircraft and some of them are quite slow, some of them are terrible, some of them are poorly armed, and there are a great many of us who love flying them all. Not because they are good but because they are interesting. In combat sometimes it's preferable to survive combat in a "crap plane" than shoot down 3-4 enemies in the best aircraft available.

 

It's even sweeter when you walk away with a single kill while flying the worst aircraft available.

 

So I can see a great many people taking interest in the IAR80/81, or MiG-3, or I-16, or whatever it is that we get later.

 

This, for sure.

[Frequent_Flyer]

I would simply quote my own post again - still stands in light of everything you typed.

This forum does not place a limit on the number of times you can be wrong, and you certainly couldn't be more wrong.

[Gutermann]

Like in ADW or MoW

 

But without any supply a Ju52 makes no sence since noone would fly it ONLINE. Oh i will fly it slow and low

 

Ju88 Bf110!! Very Important planes.

[Gambit21]

This forum does not place a limit on the number of times you can be wrong, and you certainly couldn't be more wrong.

 

 

Unintentionally ironic post of the month.

[Original_Uwe]

The three most important reasons why the P-51 was the best fighter aircraft in the ETO and the Possible the PTO was Speed, range and it was produced in significant and impactful numbers. Because it was the fastest piston engine aircraft of the war ...

TA-152: 472mph

P-47M: 473mph

And thats just off the top of my head non-exotic aircraft.

Hell on the deck even the Tempest was as fast or faster.

 

And production numbers do not make an aircraft better, just more numerous.

Edited July 28, 2014 by forsale

[Eldur]

That really is a very ugly vehicle. I don't give a... I don't care at all about cars, but that one is astoundingly ugly. How does that get made? All those steps, discussions, presentations, prototypes, and no-one was brave enough to say, "Actualy, you know what,..."

 

 

What is the perceived advantage of the split level windscreen/bonnet area? It can't be purely for the aesthetics.

 

Maybe they wanted to see how a car does without aerodynamics

[Eldur]

Don't worry smink1701, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being into Ponies, even if you're a grown man.

 

 

This.

 

 

 

 

Now for the planes... I'd take a Bf-110F, IAR80/81 series, P-39, and some MiG-3s (AM-35, AM-38, different armament) anytime.

[stealthed]

Me410

Mosquito

Beaufighter

 

Ye I have thing for heavy fighters