Game version 4.602 discussion: Typhoon Mk.Ib, Fokker D.VIII, other changes

[G_Schwarz]

i have issue with the Typhoon after 10min of flying the throttle wont go pass 10% at all tried it 3 times and it did the same thing, tried the p-47 (BoN) and nothing, works fine would love to know if anyone have the same issue.

 

i use X52 PRO throttle and VKB Gladiator Mk2 joystick, had it both for 2 years now

[=621=Samikatz]

Just now, HBG-G_Schwarz said:

i have issue with the Typhoon after 10min of flying the throttle wont go pass 10% at all tried it 3 times and it did the same thing, tried the p-47 (BoN) and nothing, works fine would love to know if anyone have the same issue.

 

i use X52 PRO throttle and VKB Gladiator Mk2 joystick, had it both for 2 years now

 

 

From the specs page. Cut your mixture to NORMAL

[Vortice]

RTFM 

[G_Schwarz]

1 minute ago, =621=Samikatz said:

 

 

From the specs page. Cut your mixture to NORMAL

when i fly i just set it to normal and leave it, correct ?

[=621=Samikatz]

Just now, HBG-G_Schwarz said:

when i fly i just set it to normal and leave it, correct ?

 

Yes, I have had no issues just leaving my lever at the halfway position and forgetting about it

[Jabo_68*]

7 minutes ago, Lythronax said:

 

It's fuctional - the key commands are in the in Specifications tab. I have no clue how to use them but supposedly it can assist with aiming rockets.

Thank you.  I thought it might have something to do with rocket firing.

[=621=Samikatz]

3 minutes ago, Jabo_68* said:

Thank you.  I thought it might have something to do with rocket firing.

 

https://streamable.com/bjvjwo

 

Looks like this. Someone will need to find a speed/alt/angle table to make the most of it, I think

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

3 hours ago, Sneaksie said:

 

Probably it won't be noticeable at usual firing distances, it's a thing for heavy guns like Todt battery and naval ones firing far away, they would be severely handicapped without accounting for more sparse air at the height of their firing arcs.

 

Does this affect the trajectory of bombs when dropped from altitudes such as 5000 meters in level bombers?

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

I'm really impressed the way the devs have been improving the Rhineland campaigns too with the new planes made available. Pre-purchasing BON was absolutely the right thing to do. I have been vocal abour several things I liked less with single player stuff like careers but this is constantly improving.

 

Keep up the great work, know that it is extremely appreciated.

[eisnerven]

Thank you friends!

Very nice update. Superb Fokker DVII and Typhoon (impressive handling characteristics)

[Jason_Williams]

50 minutes ago, fjacobsen said:

Not sure if the effect is new...

 

...but flying the Typhoon in VR I was hit by AAA, the cockpit was filled with smoke, and fire roasted my virtual legs ?

It felt so real that I screamed to my wife to get a bucket of water in order to try extinguishing it ?

 

Not new. Been in the sim for a couple years now.

 

Jason

[J2_Bidu]

Thanks for the DVIII. ❤️

[Vishnu]

Ever since I bought this game last year, I've been playing.....then I got VR.   Jeez.   Like a whole different game!   You guys are awesome!   I saw this update and thought it was time to drop some hard cash directly to the DEVS and bought the Normandy Exapansion......next up for purchase FCII.  Keep up the fantastic work Devs...you have my continued support!

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, HBG-G_Schwarz said:

when i fly i just set it to normal and leave it, correct ?

 

1 hour ago, =621=Samikatz said:

Yes, I have had no issues just leaving my lever at the halfway position and forgetting about it

 

Yes, the lever's middle position is for normal engine operation. All the way up is for starting the engine and all the way down is for shutting the engine down. It also works this way now on the Tempest.

[Jammer603]

Just seeing this update now. Is it correct to say that the Typhoon is a better ground attack plane while the Tempest is a better fighter? The Tempest has been my go-to aircraft so far.

[Startrek66]

Very Nice Work!

Thank you!

[Diggun]

After spending a couple of hours in the Tiffy, I'm very pleased with her so far. Thank you Devs for your work putting this workhorse into the sim!

 

I'd also like to share with you one of my buddies unique method of landing the Tiffy...

...Like a glove...

[HamishUK]

37 minutes ago, Jammer603 said:

Just seeing this update now. Is it correct to say that the Typhoon is a better ground attack plane while the Tempest is a better fighter? The Tempest has been my go-to aircraft so far.

Not really. The Typhoon was never designed as a bomber it was designed as a fighter. The Tempest was a better all round airframe design and was generally a better aeroplane.

[Jammer603]

1 hour ago, HamishUK said:

Not really. The Typhoon was never designed as a bomber it was designed as a fighter. The Tempest was a better all round airframe design and was generally a better aeroplane.

Thanks. Just tried a few quick mission comparisons and did much better vs. BF 109 Late with the Tempest, which is faster than the Typhoon. Obviously I’ll need more experience with the Typhoon for a fairer comparison.

Edited June 2, 2021 by Jammer603

[RedKestrel]

18 minutes ago, Diggun said:

After spending a couple of hours in the Tiffy, I'm very pleased with her so far. Thank you Devs for your work putting this workhorse into the sim!

 

I'd also like to share with you one of my buddies unique method of landing the Tiffy...

...Like a glove...

That's an expert pilot move. You can pack a whole lot more typhoons on the airfield if you park nose up. 

[=AD=uumembwa]

How we can use new radar stations? Or they functionality appear in later updates?

[Avimimus]

Are there dud rockets? I've read that up to 25% of RP-3 rockets were failures at one point - so it seems plausible.

 

I'm asking because I fired off 8 rockets but one of them had its motor fail to ignite (they were AP rockets, Mk-1 rails, fired all at once - if anyone wants to reconstruct it... I think it was the left-outboard rocket which failed to ignite).

[=RS=Stix_09]

1 hour ago, HamishUK said:

Not really. The Typhoon was never designed as a bomber it was designed as a fighter. The Tempest was a better all round airframe design and was generally a better aeroplane.

 

"From late 1942 the Typhoon was equipped with bombs and from late 1943 RP-3 rockets were added to its armoury. With those weapons and its four 20mm Hispano autocannons, the Typhoon became one of the Second World War's most successful ground-attack aircraft."

 

It was used a fighter bomber later in ww2, and became very successful in the role. (particularly  as its during the Normandy period this game has added it for) that would have been its main role

 

so it depends on when its used and what variant you are talking about. (as it was in production from late 1941)

the tempest was was a much later design used late war

[Avimimus]

12 minutes ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

 

"From late 1942 the Typhoon was equipped with bombs and from late 1943 RP-3 rockets were added to its armoury. With those weapons and its four 20mm Hispano autocannons, the Typhoon became one of the Second World War's most successful ground-attack aircraft."

 

It was used a fighter bomber later in ww2, and became very successful in the role. (particularly  as its during the Normandy period this game has added it for) that would have been its main role

 

so it depends on when its used and what variant you are talking about. (as it was in production from late 1941)

 

Well, it was designed as a fighter, and particularly, as an interceptor.

 

However, while it was discovered to be fast enough on the deck to be one of the only aircraft capable of catching the very low-altitude Fw-190 Jabo raids that had been crossing the channel, it's high altitude performance was found lacking. Eventually it was displaced by the Tempest in the interceptor role.

 

In 1942 the Hurricane was being withdrawn from the fighter-bomber role, so they reasonably converted the newer Hawker fighter with the good low-altitude performance to this role - first with bombs, then with larger bombs, then with rocket equipped squadrons (often suppressing anti-aircraft guns for the bomber squadrons). The Typhoon did become the RAF's main daylight bomber (other than small numbers of Havocs and B-25s), but it was designed as an interceptor.

 

P.S. I think the difference here is between 'designed' and 'used'. In use it was most important as a bomber... in its initial design it didn't even have bomb racks.

Edited June 2, 2021 by Avimimus

[Guest deleted@219798]

Fokker DVIII great plane to fly.

[LukeFF]

It's important to remember, too, that the Typhoon was still used for the occasional bomber escort mission or sweep in 1944, and it was occasionally used to provide top cover for other Typhoons tasked with ground attack. One squadron even flew theirs entirely in the fighter role - 168 Squadron - in the fall of 1944 with the 2nd TAF. There were also a handful of 262s shot down by Typhoons in the last few months of the war. 

Edited June 2, 2021 by LukeFF

[=RS=Stix_09]

Yes, the great thing about Il-2 GB is many planes in the game can be made to take on differ periods or roles as they have provided quite a lot of options you can add , (restrict or use) to change what the plane is.

Its was not uncommon for planes to have role changes often due to need and/or other later planes being better at a certain role for example. Most successful planes in ww2 have has many variants , so without context you can't describe most hardware in ww2.

What I like about having the Typhoon  is when we get the Normany map with can make missions around different periods and roles. and this plane has many options here. (early and late period)
 

I don't have this plane yet , so i'm not sure what options we get with it.

[pilotpierre]

Man I be bloody impressed, eggs celent work again devs.

[No105_Swoose]

Big Salute to Jason and the developers for this update!   And it came on the 1st day of June, much earlier than I expected.  So far am very pleased with the Typhoon.  Started out with a few Quick Missions and then transitioned to Battle of Bodenplatte career with the RCAF squadron out of Eindhoven starting in February 1945.  Great aircraft.  Good visibility.  Decent speed.  Not super maneuverable but that's OK for its primary ground attack role.  Getting used to the different ordnance loadouts.  Packs a nice punch.  Like the Hurricane, Spitfire, and Tempest it's somewhat challenging to land and control on the post-touchdown rollout.  Can't wait for Requiem's "How to fly the Hawker Typhoon Mark Ib".  What's really good about it to me is that it has met my hopes and expectations unlike, unfortunately, the P-47 Thunderbolt.  Also can't wait for Pat Wilson to incorporate it into PWCG.  Now roll on the DeHavilland Mosquito and Battle of Normandy map! ?

[LukeFF]

16 minutes ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

I don't have this plane yet , so i'm not sure what options we get with it.

 

150-grade fuel

4-blade prop

Tempest-style gunsight

"Dome" dust filter

Extra armor

Double-loaded rockets on Mk I rails

Mk III rocket rails (which have reduced weight and drag)

[LachenKrieg]

The Typhoon is looking real good, as are the other assets. Thanks

[Indigene]

I can't seem to trim the Tiffy, I got her trim/pitch 100% nose up and she still faces hard nose down. I flew some other planes just to make sure it wasn't my joystick, it's not. I'm tired from work so I could easily be missing something.

 

*Edit: It was my computer. I restarted it and then the Tiffy worked properly afterward.

Edited June 2, 2021 by Indigene

[Guest deleted@83466]

For what reason would we opt to take the “Dome Dust Filter” in the game?

[LukeFF]

15 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

For what reason would we opt to take the “Dome Dust Filter” in the game?

 

Normandy scenarios from late-June to August 1944 wouldn't be accurate without them. 

[DN308]

Impressive job! Thank you so much 

[moustache]

and for Tank Crew?

 

[-DED-Rapidus]

7 hours ago, IckyATLAS said:

A small bug. When ejecting from a typhoon, the pilot ejects as long as it has not expended all the ordnance.

If he has expended all of it then only the canopy is ejected and the pilot cannot eject and remains glued to his seat contemplating his end. Without any more armament he is likely doomed. Going down with his plane his last words are "What a cruel world".

 

For a successful jump, you must have a speed of less than 250 miles per hour. The pilot also behaves on tempest.

[Bert_Foster]

8 hours ago, =621=Samikatz said:

 

https://streamable.com/bjvjwo

 

Looks like this. Someone will need to find a speed/alt/angle table to make the most of it, I think

Actually the Reticle itself didn't move (like in newer variable depression sights) it always remained in the same position relative to the combining glass. The knob actually moved the entire combining glass so the reticle LOS was therefore changed. The mechanism for tilting the combining glass can be seen in the graphic below.

 

Source: British Aircraft Armament Vol 2

 

 

Edited June 2, 2021 by Bert_Foster

[I./JG1_Baron]

3 hours ago, Indigene said:

I can't seem to trim the Tiffy, I got her trim/pitch 100% nose up and she still faces hard nose down. I flew some other planes just to make sure it wasn't my joystick, it's not. I'm tired from work so I could easily be missing something.

 

I have not any problems with Tiffy's trim. 

Edited June 2, 2021 by I./JG1_Baron

[Winkysmith]

Absolutely wonderful work, Jason and the team! I have been waiting for the Typhoon ever since it was announced, and I have to say that it is now one of my two favourite planes in the game. One small bug that I noticed, though, was that while I was flying the Typhoon in QMB, the message 'You have been killed. Hit esc.' popped up twice. My plane had not even taken any hits. What also happened in QMB, is that it seems that you are now the last plane in the flight, and not the leader. I may be wrong, as I've only had two goes in the Typhoon so far, but I thought that I might just make you aware of it.