-332FG-Hank_DG Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 Exciting news today about flyable c-47. Maybe they will be working on a flyable B-25? I'm a little worried about that, due to the b-25 has already been released quite awhile ago. Just curious, do you guys think the b25 is a desirable aircraft? 1 5
Noisemaker Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Absolutely necessary for the Italian theatre. B-26, as well. 1
BMA_FlyingShark Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Noisemaker said: I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Just now, Noisemaker said: B-26, as well. Same here. Have a nice day.
-332FG-Hank_DG Posted May 26, 2021 Author Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Noisemaker said: I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Absolutely necessary for the Italian theatre. B-26, as well. It would neccessary for italian and or a pacific theatre. But unfortunately we've heard nothing about the b25 since before it released.
ROCKET_KNUT Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 B-25? I´d buy even more than two copies. Announce an A-26 and my credit card would scream in pain...? 2
BMA_FlyingShark Posted May 26, 2021 Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, -332FG-Hank_DG said: Just curious, do you guys think the b25 is a desirable aircraft? Desirable? For me and I'm sure many others too, yes. Possible? Depends, Jason commented in the topic about the C-47 that he'll do it if he finds a team who's capable and willing to make it. So, fingers crossed. Have a nice day. 2
DBFlyguy Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 I hope everyone pre-orders at least one C-47 so there is undeniable evidence that collector aircraft sale and more need to come like the B-25..etc, one can only hope!
BMA_FlyingShark Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 3 hours ago, DBFlyguy said: I hope everyone pre-orders at least one C-47 so there is undeniable evidence that collector aircraft sale and more need to come like the B-25..etc, one can only hope! I'm in, reactions about the announcement seem generally positive so I'm sure many others will follow. Have a nice day.
Cybermat47 Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 Jason said in the discussion thread that the only thing stopping him from making a flyable B-25 is the lack of a team that is both willing and capable of working on such a project. Given the amount of work that will have to be put into BoN, FC2, the Sd.Kfz. 10/5, C-47, Li-2, Snipe, and D.IV, I’d guess that all the current teams with the requisite skills will be too busy for the immediate future. 1
Deicide Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 15 hours ago, ROCKET_KNUT said: B-25? I´d buy even more than two copies. Announce an A-26 and my credit card would scream in pain...? Mine caught wind I was reading about the B-25 and was already shaking in fear. I plan to grab the C-47 but if the B-25 came I'd eat Ramen for a week and my wife would hate me but I'd have a B-25. I love the A-20 but I am always wanting more with it. B-25 would be perfection. Shot in the dark... PBJ w/ 75mm or a million front face 50's would be REALLLY nice 1
Aurora_Stealth Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 Seeing the C-47 / Li-2 being fully developed is a great sign and should definitely be seen as a step closer. I think many people would love to see a flyable and operable B-25, and I can imagine many would open their wallets for it, even just for the novelty of a more 'meaty' multi-crew, multi-position US medium bomber. But of course the team's bandwidth is going to be quite narrow now, and I can't see a B-25 coming for some time as there's already a great deal on their plate. The best way to encourage the B-25 happening in future (in my mind anyway), is to ensure people do buy aircraft like the C-47 and Li-2 which will show that the potential demand is indeed backed up by cash (put your money where your mouth is etc) and that the risk of development and complexity would ultimately pay off in the long run. If existing, complex projects like the Mosquito, Me 410, C-47, Li-2 work out and are even marginally profitable.. then developing a flyable B-25 becomes an easier business proposition to justify, and when they are completed - resources could then be considered for such a project.
Poupichoups Posted May 27, 2021 Posted May 27, 2021 The C-47 announcement is great. The team is doing an amazing job and I guess they are doing their best. However I don't understand some choices that are made, especially about this Battle of Normandy project. For example, the Arado 234, just... why ? I mean, this is a great plane, I will enjoy to fly it and all but... Battle of Normandy, with Ar 234 and no B-25 or B-26 ? Arado 234 was operational only in August 44, so at the end of BoN, and it just achieved some recon missions... Compared to B-26's presence in Normandy, Ar 234 is fully anecdotal. 14 hours ago, Cybermat47 said: Jason said in the discussion thread that the only thing stopping him from making a flyable B-25 is the lack of a team that is both willing and capable of working on such a project. I'm not a dev, but once again I don't understand that statement. They have made He-111, A-20, Ju-88 ... What is so different about B-25 or B-26 ? Anyway, Il-2 is a great game and I will probably buy C-47 and BoN ?
RedKestrel Posted May 30, 2021 Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 4:33 PM, Poupichoups said: I'm not a dev, but once again I don't understand that statement. They have made He-111, A-20, Ju-88 ... What is so different about B-25 or B-26 ? Anyway, Il-2 is a great game and I will probably buy C-47 and BoN ? It's not that the B-25 is so different. The team that made the He-111, A-20, and Ju-88 are capable (they are the core devs) but not available (they are making other planes). They are making the Mosquito, the Arado, and the Ju-88C, so they have a lot of multiengine planes in the pipes. Probably the hardest part of the development of BON is yet to come in terms of plane modeling. Other teams (third party contractors, like Ugra) may be willing, but not capable of complex bombers - at least, maybe not yet. There aren't a lot of dev studios currently doing complex flight modeling that aren't already Il-2s competitors, so I imagine finding qualified people or partners is tricky to say the least. 1
Poupichoups Posted May 30, 2021 Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, RedKestrel said: It's not that the B-25 is so different. The team that made the He-111, A-20, and Ju-88 are capable (they are the core devs) but not available (they are making other planes). They are making the Mosquito, the Arado, and the Ju-88C, so they have a lot of multiengine planes in the pipes. Probably the hardest part of the development of BON is yet to come in terms of plane modeling. Other teams (third party contractors, like Ugra) may be willing, but not capable of complex bombers - at least, maybe not yet. There aren't a lot of dev studios currently doing complex flight modeling that aren't already Il-2s competitors, so I imagine finding qualified people or partners is tricky to say the least. I see, I didn't know there were third parties involved : I thought there was one and unique dev team. Also, I don't think I realize how difficult it might be to develop that kind of stuff. Let's just hope they will manage to achieve planned planes more easily than expected ? Edited May 30, 2021 by Poupichoups
RedKestrel Posted May 30, 2021 Posted May 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Poupichoups said: I see, I didn't know there were third parties involved : I thought there was one and unique dev team. Also, I don't think I realize how difficult it might be to develop that kind of stuff. Let's just hope they will manage to achieve planned planes more easily than expected ? Yeah, it’s only the last couple years we’ve seen outside partnerships.The tanks, for example, as well as the WWI planes in FC and the U2 VS had their 3D models and some other specks by Ugra Media. The Li2 looks like it will be by them too, while the C47 already has the flight model and 3D model built by the core dev team and they’re finishing up the cockpit. As far as I know all the systems and flight modeling is done by the core dev team, as well as the underlying engine, mission logic, etc.
Angry_Kitten Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 Well in the meantime simply buy cliffs of dover Blitz and fly them big nasty multi engine planes there. Thats the best way kids. 1 1
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