Discussion of C-47 Pre-Order and Li-2, Snipe and SS.D.DIV Plans.

[CosmiC10R]

9 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Maybe  for Christmas???

 

It would be nice to drop some xmas presents on the germans around Dec 25th....

[Wardog5711]

I don't have a release date, but it is being flown in Beta right now.  There is light at the end of the tunnel.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, CosmiC10R said:

 

It would be nice to drop some xmas presents on the germans around Dec 25th....

Wrong plane. I'd rather drop some christmas presents on Bastogne.

??

[CosmiC10R]

2 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Wrong plane. I'd rather drop some christmas presents on Bastogne.

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by presents I meant troops but i suppose some retextured supply drops in xmas paper would cheer up the French?

Edited November 16, 2022 by CosmiC10R

[DN308]

21 minutes ago, CosmiC10R said:

by presents I meant troops but i suppose some retextured supply drops in xmas paper would cheer up the French?

The French???

[Blitzen]

16 minutes ago, CosmiC10R said:

by presents I meant troops but i suppose some retextured supply drops in xmas paper would cheer up the French?

It does have a few hazards however...

( Beta??? That is good news!)

[CosmiC10R]

21 minutes ago, DN308 said:

The French???

you guys take this all very very seriously so I will try not to joke around anymore unless im sure its historically accurate. lol

[DN308]

No, it's ok. Sometimes, I just need to be sure not to have miss something of the English language sense of humor

[Ghost666]

18 hours ago, DN308 said:

The French???

Yes, the French. If X-mass presents were dropped on Bastogne, those kindhearted American soldiers of the 101st would brave shot and shell to deliver the packages to the children of the besieged city. That's just how the American soldier is.  

[DN308]

Remind me in which country is Bastogne please…?

[Trooper117]

[BMA_FlyingShark]

57 minutes ago, DN308 said:

Remind me in which country is Bastogne please…?

La Wallonie.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Ghost666]

1 hour ago, DN308 said:

Remind me in which country is Bastogne please…?

The country with all the French refugees, everyone knows that.  

[DN308]

56 minutes ago, Ghost666 said:

The country with all the French refugees, everyone knows that.  

You mean Belgian so?!

 

My grandparents didn’t move to that place from the northern part of France 

[Flynco]

C47a comes out next week ? Yeaaaaa

[Noisemaker]

12 minutes ago, Flynco said:

C47a comes out next week ? Yeaaaaa

Two weeks, to be sure.

[Flynco]

1 hour ago, Noisemaker said:

Two weeks, to be sure.

Ok I can't wait...?

[danielprates]

I would have expected this thread to be exploding right about now, but.... no!

[CosmiC10R]

Everybody too busy playing lol

[GOZR]

we need to have the option for pilots on or off..  C47 mister clean pilot and twins are not god .. will age fast..   please a way to remove them ? or change to another one

 

I find the C47 mediocre .. textures ..  pilot   

 

I find the C47 mediocre .. textures ..  pilot    head VR Axis limits are too nero ,, need more space

 

[Lusekofte]

On 11/24/2022 at 12:24 AM, danielprates said:

I would have expected this thread to be exploding right about now, but.... no!

I would say I like it. Because it is a gem to fly. Unfortunately I like the one in FS 2020 better. 
And its usage in MP servers seems to be terrorised by 30 mm shells killing pilot instantly. 
Gameplay simply won’t allow too often flying in such hostile environment. 
In career it seems to be a lack of aaa and search light and many reports swarms of fighteroposition. I like it to be opposite. Deadly flak and less fighter opposition. Not the usual sniper flak but a lot of it and a slim chance to get through it. Those night missions are gorgeous. But lack dramatic flak 

[Avimimus]

5 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

And its usage in MP servers seems to be terrorised by 30 mm shells killing pilot instantly. 

 

Are you seriously complaining that a derivative of the civilian DC-3 lacks sufficient armour to protect the pilot from a 30mm cannon shell? Or is this just an observation that transport aircraft tend to be vulnerable to fighters?

 

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

As I predicted when the C47 was first announced.  It's a slow ride to a smoking hole in the ground in multiplayer.  This kind of aircraft is not conducive to a long life span because the multiplayer environment simply is geared to combat and combat aircraft, because of it's compressed time frame and mission size.

 

No doubt a good thing to have for single play, as it can be much more tightly controlled.

 

 I do like flying it, but offline only.  It's useless in serious competitive multiplay.  Unless you really like hitting the refly button a lot.  It's just too easy a target for the stat padding crowd to pass up.

 

A really good, well scripted career for it would be great fun though.

[Gambit21]

43 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

 

A really good, well scripted career for it would be great fun though.

 

 

Early days.

A lot can happen still, and need to work some things out...but I've started.

 

[Lusekofte]

12 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

Are you seriously complaining that a derivative of the civilian DC-3 lacks sufficient armour to protect the pilot from a 30mm cannon shell? Or is this just an observation that transport aircraft tend to be vulnerable to fighters?

 

 

I did not complain. I informed why I did not use it.  Know the difference before starting a rant. Your response piss me off. 
Flak in this game are snipers or rubbish. Fly it SP you see sporadic puffs and some searchlight. Any denser you are dead. 
The way ai work in this game it is either dead or breeze. 
online is hopeless due to gameplay in servers. It serve as a target drone. Like all slow moving low speed big objects do. 
these are cold facts.  This game are not any good for this kind of plane, except for scripted hard tuned campaign or coop. 
so take your attitude somewhere else

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Snipe, snipe, snipe..  anxiously awaitingthe Snipe..  ?

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

I did not complain. I informed why I did not use it.  Know the difference before starting a rant. Your response piss me off. 

 

I did not rant. I just asked a question. It would have been amusing if you wanted it to be resistant to 30mm cannon fire. But it was just a question, as your post wasn't very clear. I honestly can't see why you'd be upset with me. If you really want satisfaction we can duel in multiplayer I guess.

[Lusekofte]

20 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

I did not rant. I just asked a question. It would have been amusing if you wanted it to be resistant to 30mm cannon fire. But it was just a question, as your post wasn't very clear. I honestly can't see why you'd be upset with me. If you really want satisfaction we can duel in multiplayer I guess.

The tone and focus on your post was pretty much making me a dumbass. Patronising it was and to me deliberate mistaking my point. 
Finnish server put their drop point right in the frontline. And that is understandable, 109 pilots knows this will attract c 47 and they have fun shooting it down, and that is understandable, knowing there is not enough cover in such a small battle environment. 
It is by the design totally useless in MP due to small maps, no sufficient numbers of players to make a playable campaign.  
these are facts not complaints.  If Gambit make a scripted campaign for it. I think it will be a place for it. I am still glad they made it, yet frustrating. 

30 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

If you really want satisfaction we can duel in multiplayer I guess.

Why would I do that, I am not in this for dogfight’s. I am in this for historical aviation. I try to use this for what I like. 
because the planes are pretty well done. And now I try to exploit C 47 the way I want it

[JG4_Moltke1871]

2 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Snipe, snipe, snipe..  anxiously awaitingthe Snipe..  ?

The Schuckert is my sugar …

sweet aviation for the Kaiser ?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

1 hour ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

The Schuckert is my sugar …

sweet aviation for the Kaiser ?

It should be a real ace killer..?

[Avimimus]

  

1 hour ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Snipe, snipe, snipe..  anxiously awaitingthe Snipe..  ?

 

Yes, the Snipe, SSW D.IV and Lisunov Li-2! Lots more to talk aobut in this thread?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

The tone and focus on your post was pretty much making me a dumbass. Patronising it was and to me deliberate mistaking my point. 

 

Ah. Well, I apologise. FWIW - please, if I say something that sounds like it'd be funny to misinterpret - do feel free to make fun of me in that regard. I don't mind being teased a bit.

 

I'll try to remember you take these things seriously. You must admit that it'd be funny though, if someone were to demand that the C-47 be 30mm resistant. Maybe I should for fun... I might actually start a thread.

 

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

Why would I do that, I am not in this for dogfight’s. I am in this for historical aviation. I try to use this for what I like. 
because the planes are pretty well done. And now I try to exploit C 47 the way I want it

 

Well you sound sane. As for me, I can't wait to get the Lisunov Li-2 because of the single fixed forward-firing 7.62mm ShKAS machine gun!  I'll definitely try to dogfight in it.

 

It is a shame that they are unlikely to find enough references to make the 2xNS-45 45mm autocannon equipped variant or the rocket equipped field-mods... one can always hope though.

[Lusekofte]

Well C 47 is a soft spot I have. I enjoy it , JU 52 and PO2 / U2  also. And these are very very very hard planes to use. Their service was not exiting flying, but some very deadly and difficult. This sim can’t utilise risky missions. It goes directly from easy to impossible. We are talking about a problem existing from the very start. It is frustrating and I blame nobody. 
 

[Avimimus]

3 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Well C 47 is a soft spot I have. I enjoy it , JU 52 and PO2 / U2  also. And these are very very very hard planes to use. Their service was not exiting flying, but some very deadly and difficult. This sim can’t utilise risky missions. It goes directly from easy to impossible. We are talking about a problem existing from the very start. It is frustrating and I blame nobody. 

 

Yeah. It'd be nice to have more options for mission generation. Maybe we could convince Pat Wilson to create a transport only version of his campaign system?

[Lusekofte]

I kind of think the yokes are too small in GB

[Luftschiff]

22 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Finnish server put their drop point right in the frontline. And that is understandable, 109 pilots knows this will attract c 47 and they have fun shooting it down, and that is understandable, knowing there is not enough cover in such a small battle environment. 
It is by the design totally useless in MP [...]

 

For what it's worth me and some friends did fly a 3-ship C47 sortie paradropping on Finnish yesterday and it went great. 

In defense of your point however, we did get yelled at upon returning to base for bringing in unnecessary supplies, I presume because managing 3 paradrops wasn't believable. ?

[Lusekofte]

Just now, Luftschiff said:

 

For what it's worth me and some friends did fly a 3-ship C47 sortie paradropping on Finnish yesterday and it went great. 

In defense of your point however, we did get yelled at upon returning to base for bringing in unnecessary supplies, I presume because managing 3 paradrops wasn't believable. ?

Yes I think you were in at the same time as me. Zone 1 was safe but had sufficient supply zone 2 had not supply and was swarming with enemy. I knew going in was suicide. And it was. I do not mind that. I just look for a sustainable way to use c 47 and Ju 52. 
I get my C 47 fix from fs 2020 , and might buy JU 52 also. It seems like vintage aircraft make me shift from cfs to civil sims

[jollyjack]

On 11/17/2022 at 2:53 PM, Ghost666 said:

Yes, the French. If X-mass presents were dropped on Bastogne, those kindhearted American soldiers of the 101st would brave shot and shell to deliver the packages to the children of the besieged city. That's just how the American soldier is.  

 

these?:

 

[DN308]

Is there a chance to have the C47’s template released somehow ?

[Trooper117]

4 hours ago, DN308 said:

Is there a chance to have the C47’s template released somehow ?

 

Now that Jason's gone it will no longer be in ''two weeks''... it will now be ''special template release in 14 days''  (be sure)