Virpil Throttle key binding suggestions

[=TBAS=jamesirjames]

Just got my CM3 Throttle from Virpil and I wanted to see what the IL-2 community has been using as key bindings.  SO MANY BUTTONS!!!  Just getting my axis calibrated and familiar with the detents.  Any suggestions would be great!  I mainly fly German, FW and BF airframes.  Want to get into the 110 though, so cowl flaps and radiators?

 

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by jamesirjames
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[von_Tom]

 

1 - bail out (it's a huge button put out of harm's way.  But, over time the button does not work as the plastic rides over the lip unless you put a small plastic ring inside.  Pull the plastic knob off and you'll see what I mean.

 

5/6/7 - mixture

 

11 flaps up

9  flaps down

 

4 and 13 - supercharger gear change

 

rX - pitch

rY - throttle

rZ - adjustable stabiliser and the P47 supercharger thing

 

20 - pitch up trim

18 - pitch down trim

 

21 - map

 

24/26 SRS radio 1/2

27/28/29/30 - SRS channels

 

33 - centre VR view

 

34 - feather (as I never need it and if I did the throttle for that engine needs to be at zero anyway then I can access it easily)

 

35 - lockable tail wheel

 

36 - nav and landing lights

 

37 - cockpit

 

38-43 flares and putting my personal weapon away

 

44 - jettison ordnance

 

48 - gunner position (tanks)

 

49 - commander position (tanks)

 

50 - re-arm for the 110

 

53 - rockets

 

Z - sliding thing to distract me to avoid the twitchy feeling I get when I'm in formation with a squad mate and want to fire my guns.

 

As with all things, go with what you want.  All of my radiator controls are on my joystick (a carry over from when I had umpteen buttons on a joystick but none on a throttle).

 

von Tom

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by von_Tom

[=TBAS=jamesirjames]

Wow, this is an exhaustive list man!  I'll definitely be putting these bindings to experimentation.  Question:  I've been using 13 as pilot look around until my track ir setup arrives.  Do you know of any way to make this analog axis not as sensitive?  I've tried turning it down in the key bindings menu in IL2.  Also tried decreasing "smooth" in the Virpil software with no luck.

 

Thanks for the time put into this reply, man!

[von_Tom]

16 minutes ago, jamesirjames said:

Question:  I've been using 13 as pilot look around until my track ir setup arrives.  Do you know of any way to make this analog axis not as sensitive?

 

Sorry I don't - I use VR so don't need view controls other than zoom.

 

von Tom

[=TBAS=jamesirjames]

On 5/5/2021 at 1:34 PM, von_Tom said:

 

Sorry I don't - I use VR so don't need view controls other than zoom.

 

von Tom

Hello von_Tom,

 

I'm having an issue with binding my flaps axis(rZ) to IL-2's flaps buttons.  Maybe you can give me some insight?  I've been speaking with Virpil Controls.com as well, with no luck...

 

I'm simply trying to bind the flaps lever on the throttle to the flaps up and down bindings in IL-2.

 

I've created axis to buttons profiles in the VPC Configuration Tool software, both ways.  Through the specific rZ axis page in the predefined values as well as on the main axis page where you set up your own defined values.  I have confirmed they are working via JoyTester.  I have also gone in and messed with the "joystick logical" section of the axis section, specific to the rZ axis.

 

I know you use another hat on the throttle for your flaps as you stated in reply to my post.  What do you think?  Thanks in advance.

[von_Tom]

 

I’m afraid I can’t help you as I have my flaps bound to the hat switch on the front of the throttle, not a lever. I don’t use the Virpil software at all except for calibration. 
 

@Sokol is the chap who knows everything about controls so he may be able to help. 
 

von Tom
 

 

[dburne]

6 hours ago, jamesirjames said:

Hello von_Tom,

 

I'm having an issue with binding my flaps axis(rZ) to IL-2's flaps buttons.  Maybe you can give me some insight?  I've been speaking with Virpil Controls.com as well, with no luck...

 

I'm simply trying to bind the flaps lever on the throttle to the flaps up and down bindings in IL-2.

 

I've created axis to buttons profiles in the VPC Configuration Tool software, both ways.  Through the specific rZ axis page in the predefined values as well as on the main axis page where you set up your own defined values.  I have confirmed they are working via JoyTester.  I have also gone in and messed with the "joystick logical" section of the axis section, specific to the rZ axis.

 

I know you use another hat on the throttle for your flaps as you stated in reply to my post.  What do you think?  Thanks in advance.

 

If you have not check this video out on creating axis to buttons in Virpil software.

 

[=TBAS=jamesirjames]

dburne,

 

I've watched this video.  I have no problems with binding the buttons to the axis in the software as JoyTester shows me.  It's not working in game.  IL-2 settings will see buttons on the flaps axis, but once in-game...  Nothing happens.

[Vampyr_six]

This thread was a big help.  Thanks All!

[arprince31]

A great guide, but are you able to put a full list up of your other settings, if you get chance please - such as undercarriage up/down. Also, not all of the buttons have an explanation, e.g. 8, 10 and 12.

 

I'm also assuming that 8! is the key that breaks the throttle and pitch

 

I'd also be really interested in your trigger bindings.

 

I'll look to try to take a screenshot of the IL2 controls screens to match up what goes in where.

 

Happy landings!

[Hoss]

Is the Axis to digital 1/0 have a pulse?.. ie does it press and let go or does it have a "HOLD" the button function?..   The FLAPS are a HOLD command on almost all planes except the P-51, it goes up and down incrementally... so a pulse will work. For the others the button has to be held to make the flaps work.  Same for any of the other commands you can assign an Axis to if you go digital it needs to be a hold vice pulse..............  I'd put gear Up/Down on those since it's a pulse On/Off function you can use 60% of axis travel gives you a LAlt + G and 60% in the other direction gives you a G.........  I do this with the throttle in IL2, 85% will put the engine into WEP mode, and in DCS is 90% toggles Afterburner.... it's easier than changing out the piece under the throttle for AB....    But I have the old antiquated Thrustmaster Warthog.. LOL

 

Cheers

Hoss

1 hour ago, arprince31 said:

A great guide, but are you able to put a full list up of your other settings, if you get chance please - such as undercarriage up/down. Also, not all of the buttons have an explanation, e.g. 8, 10 and 12.

 

I'm also assuming that 8! is the key that breaks the throttle and pitch

 

I'd also be really interested in your trigger bindings.

 

I'll look to try to take a screenshot of the IL2 controls screens to match up what goes in where.

 

Happy landings!

use those screen shots to make a excel database work sheet, when new updates come out, look to see whats been changed.  I usually keep two of them one is default and the other is full of assignment changes due to conflicts of flight controls and weapons controls toggling when I don't want them too. 

Edited August 16, 2021 by 352nd_Hoss

[Hartigan]

Here's how to get ultra-realistic control of your P51 coolers. Works well with every plane.

 

T3 and T4 are physical buttons 46 & 48 and are active only when in the up position. This makes their use annoying because, for example, as a light switch, this button must be pressed down and up again in order for it to turn the light on or off. By reversing their operation and changing the mode from normal to switch, the button works more sensibly.

 

I've made an amazing ?series of pictures with which you can customize these buttons to work like a P51 radiator control panel.

 

When buttons T3 and T4 are pressed down, the radiator control changes to manual. After that, there is no need to use the T3 / T4 button in the up position and again in the down position. All you have to do is lift T3 and T4 up and the coolers are back in auto mode

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by Hartigan

[Warpig]

I like to assign my MEC functions to the throttle thumb controls.

 

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Warpig

[ericandi]

On 8/23/2021 at 3:56 PM, Hartigan said:

Here's how to get ultra-realistic control of your P51 coolers. Works well with every plane.

 

T3 and T4 are physical buttons 46 & 48 and are active only when in the up position. This makes their use annoying because, for example, as a light switch, this button must be pressed down and up again in order for it to turn the light on or off. By reversing their operation and changing the mode from normal to switch, the button works more sensibly.

 

I've made an amazing ?series of pictures with which you can customize these buttons to work like a P51 radiator control panel.

 

When buttons T3 and T4 are pressed down, the radiator control changes to manual. After that, there is no need to use the T3 / T4 button in the up position and again in the down position. All you have to do is lift T3 and T4 up and the coolers are back in auto mode

 

in the Virpil software you can change the T5, T6, and T7 to work as 2 position switches, so that moving the switches up activate a button presses and moving the switches down activates different button presses. By default T5, T6, and T7 came like you described where only the up switch position activated a button press and the down switch position, did nothing. I changed them in the Virpil software so the switches are activating button presses when in the up and down positions.