your views on the trucks

[CB77Don246]

Please I have all the content except the collectors vehicles can any one tell me do you drive them and use the guns also has any one tried them and your views what do they do?

[Danziger]

Amazeballs.

[BlitzPig_EL]

The GAZ is a lot of fun, but don't expect to be an Ace in a Day with it.  It's far harder than being a gunner in an airplane because of the relative speed difference between aircraft and a stationary AA gun.  Estimating lead and distance is also quite difficult.  

 

The model of the truck is outstanding, right down to the hinged windshield that opens up and the operating windscreen wiper.

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by BlitzPig_EL

[ShamrockOneFive]

I've only spent a little bit of time in it so far and haven't fully used it to it's potential but I can already say that I think it's a great addition to the series. As EL already pointed out, the model itself is really well detailed and things like the doors and windshield wipers work great. The sides of the truck come down and you can even engage a mode where it stabilizes itself better to fire while moving.

 

Shooting aircraft down is hard. So far in the QMB I've managed to get a few and on Advance and Secure I put a round into a Stuka's fuel tank causing a fire so that was pretty good. It's ideal for point defense. If you're with group of tanks being attaked by enemy aircraft and you've got close to zero deflection angle, you might be able to get the shot. If you just see a speck in the sky... you're not going to hit much.

[Enigma89]

They are fun but I wish they had more ammo or were able to be grouped as a battery of units. Then the player could move one gun and the other guns would be slaved to that aim point.

 

But beyond that, the detail in the tank and now AAA stuff continues to impress me for being able to work in a flight sim.

[jollyjack]

Yep, job well done and a real asset. now start driving it and don't forget sending Rapidus the coordinates of invisible objects.

Otherwise our car insurances will go up in price .

 

BTW on the first attempt of driving it i rolled down a hill due lack of up-hill power.

Then i got stuck in the snow with an one-sided spinning wheel due lack of a differential lock.

Now who wants to buy a car like that. No wonder the gun crew looks utterly annoyed when moving back to their wooden traveling seats.

Edited April 30, 2021 by jollyjack

[CB77Don246]

Thanks guys for the reply's

 

[DEDMANcjp]

does any one know the velocity of the shell?

[Dakpilot]

There is some discussion in TC section 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[DD_Crash]

4 minutes ago, DEDMANcjp said:

does any one know the velocity of the shell?

European or African?

[DEDMANcjp]

European I guess, and probably laden.

[Avimimus]

18 minutes ago, DEDMANcjp said:

does any one know the velocity of the shell?

 

910 m/s  which makes it closer to the 30mm Mk-103 in performance.

 

The bullet is 288 grams (13 grams bursting) which makes it almost three times the weight of a typical Russian 20mm bullet (but less than the 30mm Mk-103 cannon's 355 g bullet).

 

It should be able to penetrate the side armour of the earliest Panzer III at close to a kilometres, and the mid-war Panzer III when at less than 250 metres (in theory anyway)

 

[Crashbangwallop]

It's great fun, but very different. From the in-game scenarios the one thing I've learnt is to look behind you, and turn your engine off so as to hear what's going on where.

 

Had an interesting online jaunt on the Finnish VP the other day. I was loaded up with HE, and rolled out to defend the red smoke paradrop zone – trailed by an unknown T-34. Got there, and we were hanging about waiting, when a Panther emerged from out of the treeline 30/40m away.

 

T-34 engaged and made him roll back – I got behind the T-34's hull and just started blasting all over the Panther, trying to shatter vision etc, and maybe get the commander if he was still up. T-34 advanced head-to-head (maybe not the best thing to do!) while I trundled round to the Panther's side, still blasting. T-34 went kaput but I was trying to get round behind the Panther and maybe escape into the woods behind.  My ammo ran out, he sussed where I was, and co-axialled most of crew – I bailed, and I think one guy got away

 

Not quite what I was expecting when I selected the GAZ, but that certainly got the old heart pumping...

[DEDMANcjp]

thanks

35 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

910 m/s  which makes it closer to the 30mm Mk-103 in performance.

 

The bullet is 288 grams (13 grams bursting) which makes it almost three times the weight of a typical Russian 20mm bullet (but less than the 30mm Mk-103 cannon's 355 g bullet).

 

It should be able to penetrate the side armour of the earliest Panzer III at close to a kilometres, and the mid-war Panzer III when at less than 250 metres (in theory anyway)

 

 

[Avimimus]

As for the original question - I've tried it in single-player quick missions and it provides some fun driving challenges - I've found it frustrating to try to hit aircraft (firing upward + distance + limited ammunition) but it was very effective in wiping out a convoy. I think it'll be more interesting if we get a few more infantry targets (e.g. machine gun nests).

 

[[DBS]Browning]

What was the reason historically that they carried so little ammo? 

[BlitzPig_EL]

34 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

What was the reason historically that they carried so little ammo? 

 

Probably a weight limitation of the vehicle itself.  In real life I'm sure an ammo laden vehicle was not far behind.  In the game, just go into the full mission builder, find the truck and in it's properties drop down, untick "limited ammo", and there you go.

[Zeev]

I have enjoyed it for couple of hours. First played the single player missions which are well done and couldnt hit a thing, well maybe shot down some of the bombers, they are comming all the time in one direction.

In multiplayer got hit straight away by a plane and the other lives I just tried to follow other vehicles, at some time even steered my wheel too much and as a result rolled over couple of times and all my squad was wiped lying on the road except me sitting in the cabin. Good times.

Edited April 30, 2021 by Zeev

[Crashbangwallop]

Was on Finnish VP just now with GAZ, and was parked near the spawn area of an active airfield. I fired a few rounds – accidently, before you ask - and was re-armed automatically.

 

So unlimited ammo on airfield defence? Anyone else found this?

[Zeev]

2 minutes ago, Crashbangwallop said:

Was on Finnish VP just now with GAZ, and was parked near the spawn area of an active airfield. I fired a few rounds – accidently, before you ask - and was re-armed automatically.

 

So unlimited ammo on airfield defence? Anyone else found this?

Surely you would have more than one magazine. 
I have never ran out of ammo not in a single player or multiplayer. You definetely have a lot of ammo.

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

Every time I even get a hit on an aircraft... I scream like Cuba Goodie Jr. from Pearl Harbour... ?

[BlitzPig_EL]

Standard loadout is 170 odd rounds, not much.

[Lusekofte]

I was initially very enthusiastic about this, but time really kill any ambitions to utilize it, thus not bought it yet. 

But at one point I will

[Stoopy]

It's so realistic that ever since it came out I've been getting calls from people who want to sell me an extended warranty for it.

 

Edited May 3, 2021 by Stoopy

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Zeev said:

Surely you would have more than one magazine. 
I have never ran out of ammo not in a single player or multiplayer. You definetely have a lot of ammo.

 

Depends on editor settings.

 

I have the included single-player missions set to ‘unlimited’, and likely it was the same in the MP mission you mention.

[[DBS]Fusek]

Loading AP shells and doing drive-by's on Panzer IV's is fun.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

How does it behave in VR? When aiming the gun, can you still move your head around or is your head position fixed like in the gunner positions of all the tanks and aircraft?

[Ram399]

It occurs to me that I've never tried to use my logitech racing wheel in IL-2 for fairly obvious reasons.
Does the truck have wheel compatibility?

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, Ram399 said:

It occurs to me that I've never tried to use my logitech racing wheel in IL-2 for fairly obvious reasons.
Does the truck have wheel compatibility?

 

Yeah it’s just an axis - the game doesn’t know or care if the controller is wheel shaped or stick shaped.

[Crashbangwallop]

22 hours ago, Zeev said:

Surely you would have more than one magazine. 
I have never ran out of ammo not in a single player or multiplayer. You definitely have a lot of ammo.

Just did a test with the GAZ again on Finnish Virtuals. Spawned at the tank base at the airfield, drove over to the aircraft bays and stopped my engine. A voice then said 'Tanks full' - so my fuel had been topped up automatically. Took a few shots into the trees, and the clip simply replenished itself. Continuous fire doesn't reload another clip - the clip reserve counter just stayed at 20 - but re-supplies the same clip back to 7 shots. Drove around a bit more, stopped the engine, and had my fuel tanks re-filled. Tried it with flares, but they don't seem to get replaced

 

Only actual action was a Me262 did a single pass over and knocked out some poor bloke who'd just spawned, and I was way too slow to catch a shot at him until he was a tiny disppearring dot. 

 

Good to know about the unlimited ammo though...

Edited May 1, 2021 by Crashbangwallop
Clarification of vehicle type

[Mac_Messer]

So...is the mobile AA gun in GB series a good drop in, drop out relaxing shooting range material or not?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, Crashbangwallop said:

A voice then said 'Tanks full' - so my fuel had been topped up automatically. Took a few shots into the trees, and the clip simply replenished itself.

Yeah reloading/refueling is a mission setting (or rather, you can give certain objects that function) so the mission designer can enable or disable it at will.

[Crashbangwallop]

50 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Yeah reloading/refueling is a mission setting (or rather, you can give certain objects that function) so the mission designer can enable or disable it at will.

 

Thanks Aelred, that makes sense. I can see that feature/setting being useful for airfield defence on the Finnish VP server - the AAA pieces won't have to return to their own bases for those services. And  it's nice knowing you don't have to be sparing with shots.

I haven't really used the GAZ on any other servers to compare with, but no doubt will at some point

[Rjel]

18 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

How does it behave in VR? When aiming the gun, can you still move your head around or is your head position fixed like in the gunner positions of all the tanks and aircraft?

I can't speak to VR but I can use trackir 5 for head rotation and still center on the gun sight when I need to be.

 

I can recommend the trucks based on a few days of use. It isn't easy and my hit and miss ratio is terrible. Still, banging away enemy planes is somewhat rewarding. I think like it was historically, most of the attackers will get through and most will get away. The range of the 25mm cannon seems rather short to me. The HE rounds especially. If the He-111s I've seen most often were attacking from a higher altitude, maybe 4000m, the rounds would never reach them. Low level attackers are difficult to track for me using a mouse. I've only knocked down a single Bf-109E7 who was coming straight at me. Also, any tree that gets in between the target and my line of fire usually is solid enough to stop my round. Even the upper branches.

 

All in all though, I've enjoyed them. Perhaps down the road, we'll get some of the quad barreled mounted systems. The trucks themselves are fun to drive. I do enjoy just driving them around. Definitely gives me a different perspective of the terrain.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

14 hours ago, Rjel said:

I can't speak to VR but I can use trackir 5 for head rotation and still center on the gun sight when I need to be.

Well rotation is fine in the other turret views that are in the game (tanks and gunner positions in the aircraft), but the problem is that if I move my head, the in-game view remains right in front of the gunsight. I'm not very susceptible to motion sickness, but that disparity between in-game and real-life movement gets even me a little wobbly.

 

I'm thinking of buying the truck, but as I only fly in VR these days, it's kind of a game breaker for me if there's no good way to aim the gun...

 

So again, is there anyone who can tell if the truck works well in VR?