Anti air artillery scenarios....

[Knarley-Bob]

This just showed up after the last update. Doesn't seem to go any where, what's the scoop? Coming attractions?

[[CPT]Crunch]

Last update included one of the new flak trucks, those are it's scenes.  Flak truck purchased separately.

[Avimimus]

https://il2sturmovik.com/store/collector-vehicles/ <-GAZ MM-72 truck with 20mm anti-aircraft gun is released

[Knarley-Bob]

On 4/24/2021 at 1:01 PM, [CPT]Crunch said:

Last update included one of the new flak trucks, those are it's scenes.  Flak truck purchased separately.

That's all I need, another way to get shot down....?

[Charlo-VR]

In MP now the AA fire can mistakenly fire on you if the human isn’t skilled in plane ID ?

Edited April 26, 2021 by Charlo-VR

[BlitzPig_EL]

Just like real life.

 

Imagine that.

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Just like real life.

 

Imagine that.

 

There's some interesting stories in Urbanke's book on III./JG 54 about how more than one pilot wanted to go to blows with the flak gunners who mistakenly shot them down.

[Sandmarken]

I was shot down by a human aa truck on finish the other day. I was going to spook him with a litle strafe but he got me with a pk befor i coud open fire.  It was very humiliating?

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

With The qmb aa truck icon.. you can then select aircraft at the bottom (like the ground targets option) select all aircraft types and it will put you in the middle of chaos lol..

 

bombers, fighters, paratroop, everything happening last at once... it’s awesome but you run out of ammo fast

[Mac_Messer]

So...is human AA more or less effective?

 

Are there mp servers offering AA slots exclusively?

[Avimimus]

12 hours ago, LukeFF said:

There's some interesting stories in Urbanke's book on III./JG 54 about how more than one pilot wanted to go to blows with the flak gunners who mistakenly shot them down.

 

I actually vaguely feel like I remember a story about that happening (Although I might be remembering the rather tragic mess that happened to the USS Liberty/AGTR-5 during the Six Day war).

 

I do recall one incident of an annoyed Bomber Command aircraft (Lancaster or maybe a Halifax - but I think a Lanc) diving to low altitude and ordering the gunners to suppress a German anti-aircraft battery. Of course, that isn't firing on the same side - but still dramatic enough to be worth sharing I think.

 

 

4 hours ago, Mac_Messer said:

So...is human AA more or less effective?

 

That'll be interesting to see - might justify some tweaks to the anti-aircraft AI?

Edited April 26, 2021 by Avimimus

[PatrickAWlson]

On 4/26/2021 at 3:06 AM, LukeFF said:

 

There's some interesting stories in Urbanke's book on III./JG 54 about how more than one pilot wanted to go to blows with the flak gunners who mistakenly shot them down.

 

I can sympathize with the AAA gunners.  When 9 planes out of 10 that you see are the other side, shooting at everything becomes second nature.  

 

Even allied gunners had itchy trigger fingers and they didn't have that excuse.  One of them killed Preddy.  

[Cybermat47]

On 4/26/2021 at 5:06 PM, LukeFF said:

 

There's some interesting stories in Urbanke's book on III./JG 54 about how more than one pilot wanted to go to blows with the flak gunners who mistakenly shot them down.

Yep, and at least two US aircraft were shot down by their own AA during the Pearl Harbour attack. One, John L. Daines, may have scored the US Military’s first air-to-air victory of the war, but was killed by his own airfield’s defences.

 

Of course, the vast majority of AA gunners at Pearl Harbour had never seen combat before. Add to that the fact that they were taken by surprise and the vast majority of aircraft in the air that day were Japanese and killing US troops, and it becomes obvious why such mistakes were made.