IL-2 Dials (Instrument Panel App)

[Blorg]

On 1/29/2023 at 2:32 PM, LoupVert said:

I run it happily on my smartphone. Now I'd like to run it on my tablet, which is operating a 32 bits OS.

Im a the mercy of Unity's export system here, which os version is it? Android/chrome?

On 1/29/2023 at 1:36 PM, Sayan said:

My tablet is 4.2.2, when trying to install it gives an Parse error

 

If you haven't already tried, try the standalone apk version available here : https://dellywelly.itch.io/il-2-dials-client-android
If that isn't working, I plan to roll back the unity engine version number so I can support older versions of Android, I updated for the last couple of releases and I didn't realise I wiped of support for earlier androids

13 hours ago, Mad_Mikhael said:

Is it possible to make a bomb selector panel?

I haven't looked in to this at all and will take some work but I will keep it mind when I'm looking through the il-2 code in case I notice something

[LoupVert]

56 minutes ago, Blorg said:

Im a the mercy of Unity's export system here, which os version is it? Android/chrome?
(...)

It's a Windows 10 32 bits (Family edition if that matter in any way).

[Blorg]

7 minutes ago, LoupVert said:

It's a Windows 10 32 bits (Family edition if that matter in any way).

Does the server run? I've never tested on a 32 bit machine ?
Sorry, I just read your post properly.. I'm trying to build a 32 bit version for windows

32 bit version here:
https://dellywelly.itch.io/il-2-dials-client-windows
I didn't even realise windows tablets ran .exe files, so this is all new to me! Let me know how it goes.

Edited January 31, 2023 by Blorg

[Sayan]

15 hours ago, Blorg said:

If you haven't already tried, try the standalone apk version available here : https://dellywelly.itch.io/il-2-dials-client-android

Alas, it was this standalone version that I tried to run on the tablet. 

[LoupVert]

15 hours ago, Blorg said:

Does the server run? I've never tested on a 32 bit machine ?
Sorry, I just read your post properly.. I'm trying to build a 32 bit version for windows

32 bit version here:
https://dellywelly.itch.io/il-2-dials-client-windows
I didn't even realise windows tablets ran .exe files, so this is all new to me! Let me know how it goes.

Awesome! Works great. I now enjoy a much wider screen.

 

Yeah, a few tablets, from HP this one, does have the dubious feature of running a such lean OS as Windows. Go figure who's smart idea it was.

 

Cheers

[Blorg]

1 hour ago, Sayan said:

Alas, it was this standalone version that I tried to run on the tablet. 

I will put aside some time this week to roll back the unity engine version and see if I can get you and some others back onboard.

[Sayan]

On 2/1/2023 at 4:50 PM, Blorg said:

I will

Oh thank you! I don't want to waste your time, I just bought myself another tablet and now I'm happy to fly with your dashboard. Sincerely!

[Blorg]

Maybe you can have a multi tablet setup

[LoupVert]

hey there,

 

would it be possible to have the Clock displayed ?

 

In some aircrafts, it's kinda difficult to keep an eye on, and would be very useful to.

 

Cheers

[Blorg]

I have yet to find to find the clock data (which you'd think would be simple), if I find it then I'd be looking to put it in.

[Rafcio]

Many thanks Blorg for Carb air temp & cylinder head temps idicator. Works well.

[Blorg]

Yup, new update out folks, check first post for links
 

[Sayan]

 

Hello.

for computer - IL-2 Dials Server v0.63.msi

But for a tablet in the store GooglePlay version 0.62 

How to be?

[Blorg]

21 hours ago, Sayan said:

 

Hello.

for computer - IL-2 Dials Server v0.63.msi

But for a tablet in the store GooglePlay version 0.62 

How to be?

Version 0.63 was on the beta branch, I have now promoted it to Release so look out for an update on the Play Store. Alternatively you can join the beta, I usually leave a release on the beta branch for a week or two before pushing to release

[Sayan]

23 hours ago, Blorg said:

Version 0.63 was on the beta branch

Did I understand you correctly that in 2 weeks the store will have version 0.63?
Thank you.

[Blorg]

7 hours ago, Sayan said:

Did I understand you correctly that in 2 weeks the store will have version 0.63?
Thank you.

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. The store should now have 0.63.

 

[CosmiC10R]

Its evolved a bit further. The 3 soerate windows wont stay in position as seperate entities so ive spread 1 single window across the 3 screens. 

[EGFlyer]

Thanks for this useful soft!

 

Android client has no exit function?

On double back no exit. And no exit button.

Edited April 4, 2023 by EGFlyer

[Blorg]

I just use the Android OS swipey close feature when you view current apps! Technical language ?

[EGFlyer]

15 часов назад, Blorg сказал:

I just use the Android OS swipey close feature when you view current apps! Technical language ?

I use it too. But i see it as a "backup way", not a main

[ThePops]

Hello, great app.

 

Maybe it has been asked before, but Is it possible to connect to the server with other apps? for driving physical gauges for instance.

[Blorg]

Hello, yes it is, the data stream is freely available, you just need to write a client  A few people have done this already for different types of projects. Feel free to DM me and I can link the relevant code 

[Sayan]

Good afternoon.
I came across an interesting phenomenon. I bought a Mk.XIVe a week ago and flew around it.
The arrow of the Spitfire Mk.XIVe boost indicator on the tablet jumps and spins randomly around the entire dial. At the same time, the same pressurization device in the cab shows correctly.
All other indicators on the tablet work correctly.
Has anyone experienced this kind of effect? I have version 0.63 installed
Thanks in advance.

[Patricks]

15 hours ago, Sayan said:

Good afternoon.
I came across an interesting phenomenon. I bought a Mk.XIVe a week ago and flew around it.
The arrow of the Spitfire Mk.XIVe boost indicator on the tablet jumps and spins randomly around the entire dial. At the same time, the same pressurization device in the cab shows correctly.
All other indicators on the tablet work correctly.
Has anyone experienced this kind of effect? I have version 0.63 installed
Thanks in advance.

 

Your best bet is to join the IL-2 Dials Discord and report the issue\contact Blorg there, though he does pop on here also . Discord invite - https://discord.gg/5N5Cj5Yr .  

 

EDIT: Blorg is aware and is working on a different way to get the data stream (overall). Just drop the external gauge for now in that plane. It is a confirmed issue, I just popped in and same issue here.

 

 

 

Edited July 11, 2023 by Patricks

[Blorg]

Sorry just saw this! Patricks speaks from the gospel. His words are true

Edited July 12, 2023 by Blorg

[Lomaster]

p-40 Manifold Pressure gauge is oscillating wildly. It worked without issue back in April

[Patricks]

37 minutes ago, Lomaster said:

p-40 Manifold Pressure gauge is oscillating wildly. It worked without issue back in April

 

Best reported on the #bugs channel on Discord, but Blorg does seem to pop in hereon occasion! I think he has real life getting in the way of development for now, so we just have to wait and use what we have!

[Blorg]

Known issues with an update I'm guessing
Any planes with wonky action, you can help by posting the plane and the dial that's broken. Thanks!

[Blorg]

Progress Report:

Server/ data reading -
Using the new found data struct which gives me a percentage value of each needle/wheel/light in each cockpit, I have managed to find the manifold value! I have started to feed this through to the client.  I'm hoping this new struct is more stable than the previous structs that I've been reading for each engine, at the very least it's looking like every plane uses this same position for the manifold values, so if it does break, it's easier to fix. Early days on this.

Client -
Up until now I have been feeding the raw data values which I found in the memory all the way to the client and letting the client convert them depending on the situation. For example, the calculations for the Russian manifold values seem to be done in a different unit than the unit the in cockpit dial uses, so I have conversions in the client like so:
 

//km/cm2 to mm of Hg
manifold *= 7.35592400690826f;

 

With an eye towards supporting other sims in the future, I will move these conversions to the IL-2 Dials server and make the client rotate the needles to sane numbers you would expect to receive from a sim's telemetry. 

What this does mean is, unfortunately I need to write a fair bit of new code on the server side to do this, and then I will need to redo the animations/rotations in Unity to use the "sane" numbers. 

Today, I figured out how I'm going to do this, found the manifold value in the data and wrote the server side conversions and checks for the Russian planes which took me a few hours. I'm excited about this new approach and hope it serves us well in the future. 

I'll keep you pilots updated as I make progress. My current plan is to fix any broken dials and release a fix before I continue with the fuel gauges. 

Peace and Love, Del / Blorg

Happy Flying! 

[Sayan]

On 9/24/2023 at 5:10 PM, Blorg said:

My current plan is to fix any broken dials and release a fix before I continue with the fuel gauges.

Blorg, thank you very much for your creativity!

Thanks to your app, you can fly comfortably.

I can ask you, when there is an update, write about it here on the forum. I don't know English well, and on Discord the information gets lost in the flow of messages.

Sincerely!

[Patricks]

2 hours ago, Sayan said:

Blorg, thank you very much for your creativity!

Thanks to your app, you can fly comfortably.

I can ask you, when there is an update, write about it here on the forum. I don't know English well, and on Discord the information gets lost in the flow of messages.

Sincerely!

 

Actually Blorgs Discord is quite tame and not overwhelmed with a bunch of crap.. easy to stay on top of updates/bug reports, and general news.

 

[Blorg]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:32 AM, Sayan said:

Blorg, thank you very much for your creativity!

Thanks to your app, you can fly comfortably.

I can ask you, when there is an update, write about it here on the forum. I don't know English well, and on Discord the information gets lost in the flow of messages.

Sincerely!

Will do, any decent "progress reports" I'll post here too. Thank you for the kind words 

[Blorg]

Mini progress report:

Looks like I now have figured out how to figure out if a plane is using oil temperature in or oil temperature out for it's dials. This was a big learning curve for me the first time I worked on the oil dials, but now I can read both in and out at the same time and can determine which value the plane is using. Or in case of the Ju-52/3m g4e both. That plane having both was very helpful, and the fact that out temp should always be higher than in, unless the cooling system is extremely good!

The Tempest I believe was using the wrong oil data and that's why it wasn't accurate. Now I just need to go through every plane and check if it's in or out and asign them correctly in the client. Slow progress but good and solid progress, I'm still feeling good about this approach for stability in the long term.

Peace out, Del

 

[Blorg]

German oil temperatures have been fixed up. Moved more of the code for working out min and max limits for dial rotations server side to continue making the client as simple as possible. We want the client to receive only values it will display on the 2d dials, no conversions or anything should be happening there.

I am 98% certain now that the FW 190s in game oil temperature dial is off by about 2 degrees Celsius. I have mirrored this in the client so it lines up with the in game dial. What a headache that dial has been! I'd like a conversation with the team that hooked that dial up, the auto computer controller thingymabob and inaccurate data has made this a real test. 

It was nice seeing the Bf110s double needle on one dial showing both in and out temperatures, working nicely ?
 

Next up, Soviet oil updates

Edited November 11, 2023 by Blorg

[Patricks]

Good to see the wizard is still behind the curtain working away! ?

[DragonDaddy]

Is this still working properly after the most recent update? It used to work very well via duet on my iPad but now is very buggy. 

[Blorg]

I have been working on fixing the manifolds and oil (finished!) but the latest update looks to have broken water temperatures. If you could be so kind as to list anything you notice that is broken and I'll put it on the to do list.

A little progress update: Changing how I get the data for oil and manifold/boost pressures seems to be a more robust method as the sim update didn't break my work in progress for the dials, so that's good news. Now I'll need to rework the existing dials (hopefully just the engine ones) to the new system. It's quite a bit of work unfortunately but I at least have the workflow in place now. 

I'm looking to lock this down for the long term so I don't need to spend days fixing it every update!

(I'm aware of the carb. mix issues too, I'll get to them when I'm doing the water temp fixes)

Edited December 22, 2023 by Blorg

[Sayan]

7 hours ago, Blorg said:

list anything you notice that is broken

Tell me, which version of the Android and Windows client is currently relevant?
Sincerely.

[Blorg]

0.63 is the latest version, I've not released anything new for a while. I'll be sure to post here when I do. 

[Blorg]

Version 0.64 Boost/Manifold and oil temp fixes
 

New stuff
Needles should now follow start up sequences for manifold/boost and oil temps

 

Fixes
Boost, manifolds and oil temps are now using a (hopefully) more robust data point in the sim. This should help protect against game breaking updates

Known Issues
Water temp and carb air temps have been broken by the latest update, will move to new robust system
Some oil and and manifold dials might be slightly off if I don't have the plane, keep me informed of any inaccuracies, this new system should be way more accurate (including dial start up sequences)
 

Android version in beta, make sure you sign up for it in Google Play (I'll push this to the main branch after a week or so)
 

https://dellywelly.itch.io/il-2-dials-server
https://dellywelly.itch.io/il-2-dials-client-windows