Developer Diary, Part XXI

[BorisGruschenko]

This looks and sounds just excellent - the eastern front has always been my favourite theatre in war gaming. Really looking forward to this one. I Hope we'll see a Hs-123 (aka Henschel Stuka) in this sim one day.

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Yeah the middle one looks great on my 32"

[JG13_opcode]

We're preparing a map from east to west length of 360 km (Tatsinskaya - Stupino / Kapustin Yar) and north-south 230 km (Kletskaya - Kotelnikovo).

You'll see a map later, please wait.

Wow, that'll be nice. Definitely covers a large enough area, too.

[SvAF/F19_Klunk]

then  the map presented in the other thread is pretty close to what will be included  great!

 

I quickly made a map from google based on what Blacksix told us about the area.

Just for comparison are also approximated areas of Stalingrad and vicinity represented in IL2 1946 and Warthunder

 

 

[Trooper117]

Excellent.. thanks for the comparison!

[Foobar]

That's a huge piece of map!

[kestrel79]

Nice looking map. I'm pumped.

[Ala13_Kike]

Is complicated the development and creation of maps with this graphics engine?

[senseispcc]

then  the map presented in the other thread is pretty close to what will be included  great!

 

I quickly made a map from google based on what Blacksix told us about the area.

Just for comparison are also approximated areas of Stalingrad and vicinity represented in IL2 1946 and Warthunder

 

 

Thanks this is wonderful, great campaign possibilities! 

         

[Rivfader]

Is complicated the development and creation of maps with this graphics engine?

yes

[danperin]

One thing i think you developer guys must consider, is the fact that when the fighter plane is firing his machineguns it shakes too much, in Cliffs of Dover, for example, when you fire a long 20mm burst the plane always lose much of its stability. In a interview with the Ace General G????nther Rall i saw, he said the plane (BF-109) dont shakes at all when he was firing even with his cannons. I could not find that interview to post here, but i believe i watched in one of the videos from this channel: 

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperiorHistory (Amazing channel with many WWII documentaries that deserves a try). 

[Frequent_Flyer]

We're preparing a map from east to west length of 360 km (Tatsinskaya - Stupino / Kapustin Yar) and north-south 230 km (Kletskaya - Kotelnikovo).

You'll see a map later, please wait.

 

BlackSix,

 

Thank you for the follow up.

[Matze81]

... when the fighter plane is firing his machineguns it shakes too much, in Cliffs of Dover, for example, when you fire a long 20mm burst the plane always lose much of its stability ...

I always felt the same way. If there is indeed reports or statements by Pilot-Veterans like G????nther Rall, maybe the devs will consider them when modeling the amount of vibration during gun-/cannon fire.

 

Besides that, from what I've encountered, the head shake effect in CloD is exaggerated as well. Can't tell for RoF though.

 

Sorry for off-topic post!

[Zak]

I always felt the same way. If there is indeed reports or statements by Pilot-Veterans like G????nther Rall, maybe the devs will consider them when modeling the amount of vibration during gun-/cannon fire.

Statements of real WWII pilots and flight reports that are in the archives now are surely being taken into account. If you have some links that you find valuable and trustworthy, please post them into the suggestion thread.

[SvAF/F19_Klunk]

looking at that video again, thinking it would be great to get a description from the wingman (LOFT maybe?) how he experience the turbulence from his leader as they fly really tight...

[AX2]

Any plane with weapons in the wings get some vibration.

 

Like BF 109 E pilots complains and Spitfire pilots too, Aim in BF 109 F or G was more easy .

 

On the other side.

 

The Ju87 stucka with canons 37 mm, fired synchronously the gun pods, have few rounds, and very good aim.

 

But the IL2 with canons 37 mm fired asynchronously and get hard vibration and shake in all plane, and get pilots complains,  for them was very very  dificult aim to the enemy tanks,

But they had  big success against small ships.

[danperin]

I searched and searched but have not found this part of the interview. I'll post if I find in the right topic, sorry guys!

I agree you should feel some vibration when fire the machineguns from the wings, but i think that the BF-109 in Cliffs of Dover shakes too much, this shake you feel with the 20mm cannons should be in the il-2 with his 37mm cannons in BOS. Oh, about the Stuka, here's a great video with the plane firings his 37mm cannons: 

 

 

Cheers! 

Edited June 26, 2013 by DanPerin

[Dutch]

 

 

The BF-109 in Cliffs of Dover shakes too much, this shake you feel with the 20mm cannons should be in the il-2 with his 37mm cannons in BOS.  

 

 

Cheers! 

 

 

No offence, but how on earth would you know this?

Edited June 27, 2013 by Dutch

[danperin]

I dont, it was just a suggestion because i really have the feel that the 20mm cannons in the Cliffs of Dover BF-109 E-3/4 shakes too much the plane, more than they should. 

[FuriousMeow]

Cameras are not a good source for what anything really looks like. The brain has the ability to stabilize what the eyes see.

 

Playing ice hockey does not look this shaky, unstable and blurry from the ice when playing, but this camera viewpoint says otherwise and these guys are probably lower C adult hockey:

 

The brain will compensate, otherwise every day I drive to work in my Jeep would be a hazy mess and I'd be on the line for hundreds of vehicular homicides.

Edited June 27, 2013 by FuriousMeow

[SvAF/F19_Klunk]

good point...

[Uufflakke]

Did the Bf-109F still have the yellow wingtips and bottom part of nose painted yellow during the Battle of Stalingrad?

 

I thought that it only was like that during the early stage of the invasion of Russia and stopped somewhere in 1941(Operation Barbarossa).

[SvAF/F19_Klunk]

Did the Bf-109F still have the yellow wingtips and bottom part of nose painted yellow during the Battle of Stalingrad?

 

I thought that it only was like that during the early stage of the invasion of Russia and stopped somewhere in 1941(Operation Barbarossa).

 

great resource for profiles:

 

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/231/2/9

[Wind]

I've not been on for a while, completely lost interest in flying after CLOD disaster, but this update has got me all excited again.

 

S! Tree 

 

Ha!

 

So I am not alone!!

 

Did my bi-annual check on Il2 forums to find out what is going on.

And boy, am I stoked!

An old school Il2 driver here and cant say how exited I am about this.

 

Looks//performance wise I have no doubts, now lets hope the project managers keep things in tight leash and

we get the product out before the second coming of jeeba!!!

[hiro]

looking at that map, btw thanks F19 . . . gotta feel sorry for war thunder. it encompasses less than IL-2 (a game its supposed to beat but hasn't) for that theater. As soon as BOS hits the streets, it's days are numbered. 

 

 

yes its true, the brain does compensate, but also the human body. I remember going skydiving many moons ago, and my friend got film of it. 

 

it's pretty shaky like blair witch camera that might cause sea sickness vomiting . . . but I remember it the wind buffeting me but my vision wasn't shivering so bad.