Skin request NC-900 the french FW190 A8

[EMS2/4_kerlir]

https://www.casimages.com/i/210409043257900191.jpg.html

 

I'm looking for this and dont find.

[A-E-Hartmann]

hi , I can make them for you.?

[EMS2/4_kerlir]

Oh!! Yes please. The N° 29 if possible.

Edited April 10, 2021 by EMS2/4_kerlir
mistake

[A-E-Hartmann]

2 hours ago, EMS2/4_kerlir said:

Oh!! Yes please. The N° 29 if possible.

OK, no problem .
 

Edited April 10, 2021 by A-E-Hartmann

[pappy2]

Bonjour,
je ne sais pas si vous faites encore des skins, car je cherche le n°37
comme ci-dessous, pouvez-vous faire ce travail ?

je vous remercie d'avance

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

hello @pappy2
I will paint it.

Edited October 20, 2023 by E69_julian57

[E69_julian57]

Hi @pappy2

https://www.mediafire.com/file/alzw1t59ircw2wf/FW190a5_No+37.dds/file

[pappy2]

Hello “Julian”
thank you for the answer.
I am very happy that you can paint this decoration.

I know your time is precious, but if you happen to have some paint left,
I will also be happy if you could create this decoration too.

 

 

 

 

 

This plane has its history:

December 1944 the French Air Force recovers to the South East of Paris at CRAVANT, in the underground repair factory FW 190 devices partly repaired and reassembled.

The leaders of the time decided to rebuild with the elements of different aircraft present and good condition of the FW which will become the first planes of a brand new French air force.

 

The first three NC900 (FW190) are registered AACr5 N°1, AACr6 N°2, AACr3 N°3.
We are at the end of 1944, the war is not over, the three aircraft will receive French roundels as well than the landing strips, because nothing looks more like an FW190 than another FW190 ! Even if he doesn't have the same cockades...

 

The first NC900 to make an "unofficial" flight will be No. 3 piloted by test pilot Roger LEPREUX on December 1, 1944.
The first official flight was made with the N°1 piloted by Roger LEPREUX on March 16, 1945.
The No. 2 piloted by Roger LEPREUX will fly on April 14, 1945.

 

Concerning the N°1, after numerous test flights it will be reformed in 1947.

In total, 70 examples of NC900 will be assembled on site.
There is only one left today, on display at the Air and Space Museum in Paris, Le Bourget.

 

thanks again

 

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by pappy2

[pappy2]

Regarding No. 37
I don't know if you have other color images, but I think the green color should be more green; the dark green is very matte without reflections.
What do you think about it ?

 

On the documentation I found, the author writes that the aircraft were delivered with a solid dark olive green color, black propeller pan, the paints coming from various stocks of German or French origin.

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

Hello @pappy2
What is the text after NC900...?
I put fw 190 A5 for what I saw in that picture.
I do not know if it is correct.
Tell me if this color is close to olive green.

I see that in your photos you applied the skin on a 190 A-8.
The skin I did is for a 190 A-5, which is the model in the original photos.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by E69_julian57

[pappy2]

Hello “julian”
thank you for the work in progress,
in fact I chose the wrong FW for your skin, it is not suitable for an FWA8: I am changing.
regarding the color, I think it should be a little darker.

 

The French FW was indeed on a basis of FW A5,
but in IL2 I only drive A3s and A8s.

 

Can you make a French skin of No. 37 for the A3 ?
even if it is not very historical.

 

Concerning the text after NC900, I ask if you have time to create this new skin of an NC900 number AACr5 N°1 with the black and white bands of DDAY

The photos come from this book:

https://www.livre-aviation.com/DU-FOCKE-WULF-190-AU-NC-900-HA28-p-18657-c-1400_1402.html

but I don't know if it exists in English.

 

sorry for my English I use Goolge translate

The tricolor flag must be vertical, the blue is too small at the bottom, can you change it ?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

hI @pappy2

Ok I will make the changes for the wf 190 A-3.

[pappy2]

SUPER ?

[E69_julian57]

Hi @pappy2

I darkened the olive colour for the fw 190 A-3.
The other skin I don't know what colour to give it, would it be a dark green colour or leave the olive...?

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ka9wz2hfm0hunmd/FW190a3_NC900_N37.dds/file

[pappy2]

SUPER doesn't change anything for me it's the right color.
the signs of wear on the paint are also very good.

 

 

 

Maybe also dirty the cockades, and add the French words "LEVEZ ICI" at the back of the tail on both sides and the red cross from the first aid kit housing.

 

 

For the second skin with the DDAY colors the same color of green is very good.

On the other hand, as we want an FWA3, the NC900 must bear the following registration AACr3 N°3 on the vertical fin.

 

 

Edited October 24, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

Hello @pappy2
The fw 190 DD will take a bit longer because of the invasion bands.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ka9wz2hfm0hunmd/FW190a3_NC900_N37.dds/file

[pappy2]

Hello “julian”
Once again a big THANK YOU for this wonderful work.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by pappy2

[pappy2]

Hello “julian”
I have just realized that the marking of the vertical drift is not correct.
As they were reconstructed using several elements of different types of FW it is very difficult to know exactly the type of FW, so the FW reconstructed by the French are referenced in:

 

NC900
Type A5
No.......

 

 

in my reference book, the photo of No. 40 tells us that it is indeed an FWA3 fuselage because it has the first aid kit housing on the right.

As you work on the basis of an FWA3, to be historical can you replace the marks of No. 37 with No. 40 ?

 

Can you also make the marking in the red part of the vertical drift :

NE PAS DEREGLER  (do not adjust)

 

EDIT:
I find that the dirt on the cockades is too pronounced.

Edited October 24, 2023 by pappy2

[EMS2/4_kerlir]

Hello, I think that the NC 900 were only FW 190 A5 and A8.

The last skin is very nice but will be a A5

Edited October 24, 2023 by EMS2/4_kerlir

[R7-S276]

The “French Fw190” were built at Cravant in France between 1945 and 1946 by the S.N.C.A.C. (Société Nationale de Construction Aéronautiques du Centre). 65 were built under the designation AACr-6 or NC.900 from 127 fuselages and 162 wings and other parts from Fw190 model A-4, A-5 and A-8. All these parts came from abandoned Fw190 in the Luftwaffe repair facility at Cravant or captured at the end of the war. The first flight of NC.900 was 1945 March 1st and the last was 1949 June 22. Only 65 NC.900 were built, 14 were operated by the GC III/5 Normandie-Niemen during one year and half, the other 51 were used for fly test at Bretigny in France. The Fw190 in the air museum at Le Bourget in France is one of the NC.900 repaint in Luftwaffe colors.

[pappy2]

As written above, my sources come from this book which is a very good reference.

https://www.livre-aviation.com/DU-FOCKE-WULF-190-AU-NC-900-HA28-p-18657-c-1400_1402.html

The first aircraft considered to be "good flight" was the AACr.3 N°3 (precisely a FW-190 Type A3), third version under French colors (green paint and DDay stripe).
The very first rebuilt by AACr simply became AACr followed by the German type (AACr3 N°3 an FW-A3, AACr5 N°1 an FW-A5, AACr6 N°2 an FW-A6, AACr8 N°4 an FW-A8 etc ... until the arrival of the manufacturer SNCAC)

 

The AACr3 made the first “unofficial” flight on December 1, 1944 at Auxerre-Monéteau, pilot Roger LEPREUX.

 

In total, the AACr rebuilt 11 aircraft before becoming the SNCAC.

 

AACr5 N°1  (type FW-A5) DDay bands - Reformed March 1947
AACr6 N°2 (type FW-A6) DDay bands - Reformed August 1945
AACr3 N°3 (type FW-A3) DDay bands - Reformed August 1945
AACr8 N°4 (type FW-A8) Reformed February 1947
AACr3 N°5 (type FW-A3) Reformed July 1947
AACr8 N°6 (type FW-A8) Reformed June 1946
AACr8 N°7 (type FW-A8) Reformed October 1949
AACr3 N°8 (type FW-A3) Reformed December 1947
AACr3 N°9 (type FW-A3) Reformed October 1949
AACr3 N°10( type FW-A3) Reformed June 1946
AACr8 N°14 (type FW-A8) Reformed August 1946

 

Then, SNCAC identified its (54) FW-190s as NC900s which will all be FW types A5, A8.

 

NC900 Nos. 24, 40, 55 and 56 were built with an FW type A3 fuselage and FW type A5 wings.
In the photos, they are recognizable thanks to the housing of the first aid kit on the right side of the fuselage at the bottom in the French roundel.

To replace the YAK-3, 21 NC900s will be assigned to the GC Normandie-Niemen from 1945 to 1947.
In 1947 the Brétigny Flight Test Center recovered the last NC900s for its tests alongside other war prizes such as the ME-262, JU88 until 1949.

 

In 1949, the last five NC900s were repainted in their original colors to participate in Georges PECLET film on the story of Pierre CLOSTERMAN: LE GRAND CIRQUE.

https://www.unifrance.org/film/5576/la-grand-cirque

 

I hope my English is understandable, I use Goo Translate

 

Noticed :
The Air and Space Museum FW-190 NC900 and a Type FW-A8 - WNr 730924 - built by "jhe" - AGO Oschersleben factory

factory code TL+WJ

History within the Luftwaffe unknown to date (2018)

this plane was recovered on land in France or Germany because it is not part of the NC900s which were rebuilt at CRAVANT

Edited October 25, 2023 by pappy2

[pappy2]

As in IL2BOS I only pilot a FW-A3, and an A8 and the NC900 No. 37 is indeed a Type FW-A5 that is why I ask our friend "julian" to rename it to NC900 No. 40. ???

And if he wants to create the skin of AACr3 N°3 (Type A3) in green with the DDay markings. ???

Edited October 24, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

Hello 
The DD is giving me problems adjusting the bands, but I hope to get it right.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ykvj3yk7r10bdhk/FW190a3_NC900_N40.dds/file

 

[pappy2]

Very Very nice work
THANK YOU Julian

It seems to me that the inscription "Type A5" should be written larger

 

[E69_julian57]

Hola@papi2
Aquí están, disfrútalos. 

 

UPDATE ?

Edited October 25, 2023 by E69_julian57

[pappy2]

I install the IL2 V5.107 update
And then I test your wonderful work

[pappy2]

That's it, test done!
The AACr3 No. 3 is extraordinary, superb rendering
“Julian” you are a Skin ace ???

 

 

 

Concerning No. 40 sorry, ?
I think I found two small fixes.

 

 

I hope I don't waste your precious time

Edited October 25, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

ok

 

[E69_julian57]

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xu2x4472guo7dyy/FW190a3_NC900_AACr3+N3.zip/file

[pappy2]

Many thanks again “Julian”
this time it's remarkable no problem.
I don't know if you still have free time for me, but if you agree I have two other skins with which I would like to steal A8s.

They were both built on the basis of FW A8.
They are special because of the markings on the tail and on the fuselage for the first.
No. 14 flew to Normandie-Niemen, and No. 51 to CEV Bretigny.
The green color of the planes is the same as the previous skins, (my attached photos do not render the correct color)

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you again for your extraordinary work

[E69_julian57]

ok

[pappy2]

I am happy ???

[E69_julian57]

Hello @pappy2
I tell you that the nº14 gave me problems when positioning it in the fuselage by a defect in the 3D model of the Fw 190, people who desolla know what I mean, there is an error in the fuselage that everything you do in that area appears deformed or bent.
So I had no other way to put them as good as possible.
Regards

https://www.mediafire.com/file/qlvvh6mzjhzikot/FW190a8_4k_n14.zip/file

[pappy2]

Hello “Julian”
regarding No. 51 everything is OK, I can fly now.

 

 

concerning No. 14 just two small modifications if possible:
- On the fin next to the A, the number 8 must be written in small
- If possible move the text “LIFT HERE” next to the number
I understood that this area is difficult for the creation of the Skin, if it is not possible then it does not matter.

 

 

 

Many more THANKS for your work

Edited October 28, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

Hello @pappy2

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/p1mc5g1lfkuelmh/FW190a8_4k_n14.dds/file

[pappy2]

Sorry, I forgot: ?
The red cross from the first aid kit is missing.

 

 

For the rest everything is OK ???

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by pappy2

[E69_julian57]

Hello @pappy2

https://www.mediafire.com/file/6orvfdazq5yd46n/FW190a8_4k_n51.zip/file

[pappy2]

GREAT
EXTRAORDINARY WORK

 

 

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK “julian” AND YOUR GREAT KINDNESS FOR RESPONDING TO MY REQUESTS. ? ????

[pappy2]

Just for fun

 

[Trooper117]

I know these things historically were tested by the allied forces... but for me, they just don't look right unless they are in Luftwaffe paint schemes and markings.