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Just asking because of curiosity.
Will there be an early war aircraft set for the Battle of Normandy map to be sold or.....will the Cliffs of Dover aircraft be made available for sale?
I would like to see the separation of similar type aircraft also....meaning the C47 and the JU52...Will the C47 ever be made player flyable.
I'd love to setup a server that used all the maps in a somewhat historically accurate timeline.   Make a BOB/ClOD July40-Oct40, moving to Moscow Oct41-Jan42, moving to BOK Jan42-Jul42, Moving to Stalingrad Aug42-Feb43, BON May44-Jul44, BoBP July44-end of hostilities system of map to map changes.

In order to do it though we need to have older as well as new player usable aircraft like the C47(AI for BON), and older aircraft like the 109E3 and E4 the Spitfire Mk1 and 2 The Hurricane Mk1(BoB/Cliffs).

 

I ask because I wonder if we will be able to join these systems and play an entire war worth of maps.

Then we can add in the Pacific Theater.

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Enceladus828
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The devs are not doing the Battle of Britain, nor are they making early the Spitfire, Hurricane, Bf-109, as well as Blenheims and Wellingtons anytime soon. They are only making aircraft for D-Day and a 1944 Channel map; the Battle of Britain in this game would be a 1941 version.

If you want a 1940 planeset then CloD is your best choice. Also, the devs would need to include the Reggia Aeronautica.

Chief_Mouser
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On 4/9/2021 at 12:40 AM, BG26_Ogg said:

...will the Cliffs of Dover aircraft be made available for sale?

 

Totally different sims. Ne'er the twain shall meet.

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354thFG_Drewm3i-VR
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We already have the 109 e-7, spitfire v, and hurricane 2 (plus stukas, 110s, and he-111s) We can easily create channel battles and BOB scenarios. The spitfire 1 with 8 .303s and a two speed prop would not be fun at all to fly.

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55 minutes ago, =AW=drewm3i-VR said:

We already have the 109 e-7, spitfire v, and hurricane 2 (plus stukas, 110s, and he-111s) We can easily create channel battles and BOB scenarios.

 

None of those particular planes flew in the Battle of Britain.

 

55 minutes ago, =AW=drewm3i-VR said:

The spitfire 1 with 8 .303s and a two speed prop would not be fun at all to fly.

 

Why not? We already have a Hurricane with the same armament, and no one seems to be bothered by that.

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354thFG_Drewm3i-VR
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3 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

None of those particular planes flew in the Battle of Britain.

 

 

Why not? We already have a Hurricane with the same armament, and no one seems to be bothered by that.

Who cares what actually flew in the Battle of Britain? It's a GAME and the planes we have are close enough, but slightly better so as to be more FUN to fly and enjoy.

 

The planes we have are from 1940-41 anyways and are so close to the real thing. Besides, the difference between a mk v spit and mk 2 is a slight engine upgrade and they finally got the cannons working properly...that's about it. The hurricane 2 is also basically the same as the m1. I think the major difference was it was less susceptible to fire damage. Its been a while since I researched this, but no one uses the Hurricane with 8 .303s online unless they are special needs (because with the current dm they literally are nerfed guns)...its always the 2 12.7s and 2 shvaks or 4 .20mm cannons.

 

If the dev's really want to move forward, they need to do the Pacific. Anything else would be new seasoning on the same dinner.

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Chief_Mouser
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10 hours ago, =AW=drewm3i-VR said:

Who cares what actually flew in the Battle of Britain? It's a GAME and the planes we have are close enough, but slightly better so as to be more FUN to fly and enjoy.

 

The planes we have are from 1940-41 anyways and are so close to the real thing. Besides, the difference between a mk v spit and mk 2 is a slight engine upgrade and they finally got the cannons working properly...that's about it. The hurricane 2 is also basically the same as the m1. I think the major difference was it was less susceptible to fire damage. Its been a while since I researched this, but no one uses the Hurricane with 8 .303s online unless they are special needs (because with the current dm they literally are nerfed guns)...its always the 2 12.7s and 2 shvaks or 4 .20mm cannons.

 

If the dev's really want to move forward, they need to do the Pacific. Anything else would be new seasoning on the same dinner.

 

I suggest that you try War Thunder. It has everything that you need.

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354thFG_Drewm3i-VR
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On 4/16/2021 at 5:20 AM, 216th_Cat said:

 

I suggest that you try War Thunder. It has everything that you need.

Minus realistic ballistics, physics, flight modeling, damage modeling, weather, and scenarios yes.

 

My point is that early war planes are not that much fun and I would rather recreate BoB scenarios with slightly later planes for a better experience. Go try to manage the Spit 1 two speed prop (prior to the rotol constant speed one) in CLoD and tell me how you like it. It is a literal nightmare and so bad that mission makers substitute the mk 1a in BoF/Dunkirk scenarios in CLoD. That is what we would have on the Spit and Hurricane in a BoF scenario. No thanks for me, but to each their own. For me, 1941-1943 is the sweet spot where the plane and weapons tech is advanced enough to not kill you, but not so advanced that the plane basically flies itself. I like having a capable plane, but not a super plane like the Me-262 or even the Tempest (though I am guilty of racking up kills with it online ?). Hence, I hope the series sticks to mid-war scenarios. I am not opposed to a spit 1 or2 collector plane or two, but BoB has been done so many times in the past and we will have a great channel map soon so BoF or BoB would be more of the same ad nauseum. I love the BoB, but would rather see the series do what it intended to do in the beginning, i.e. carriers and/or the Pacific.

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Chief_Mouser
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1 hour ago, =AW=drewm3i-VR said:

My point is that early war planes are not that much fun...

 

 ...but would rather see the series do what it intended to do in the beginning, i.e. carriers and/or the Pacific.

 

Wrong (ok, personal taste and you have no soul), and errr... wrong (where did anyone ever say that? And I do put the emphasis on 'in the beginning'.)

Enceladus828
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3 hours ago, =AW=drewm3i-VR said:

My point is that early war planes are not that much fun and I would rather recreate BoB scenarios with slightly later planes for a better experience. Go try to manage the Spit 1 two speed prop (prior to the rotol constant speed one) in CLoD and tell me how you like it. It is a literal nightmare and so bad that mission makers substitute the mk 1a in BoF/Dunkirk scenarios in CLoD. That is what we would have on the Spit and Hurricane in a BoF scenario. No thanks for me, but to each their own. For me, 1941-1943 is the sweet spot where the plane and weapons tech is advanced enough to not kill you, but not so advanced that the plane basically flies itself.

Without the early Spitfire and Hurricanes we would probably be speaking German.

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