Tactics against IL2 type 41

[Startrek66]

Hello everyone, I have a suggestion to ask you.  Over the course of various duels, I have always found it difficult to quickly take down this plane as it is very robust.  I fly with the Bf109 F2 and have to rely on my aim and the 151's 200 shots. Several times I have searched for the shot by attacking from behind, looking for the air intake.  however I found it very effective to hit the tail planes, for me the final solution.  What tactics do you use?

[Irishratticus72]

4 minutes ago, Startrek66 said:

Hello everyone, I have a suggestion to ask you.  Over the course of various duels, I have always found it difficult to quickly take down this plane as it is very robust.  I fly with the Bf109 F2 and have to rely on my aim and the 151's 200 shots. Several times I have searched for the shot by attacking from behind, looking for the air intake.  however I found it very effective to hit the tail planes, for me the final solution.  What tactics do you use?

High side pass on the cockpit, or low side pass on the radiator. 

[PatrickAWlson]

Fire from close in.  No tail gunner so you don't have to worry about that.  If they have no fighter cover they are defenseless.  Take your time, shoot from 5:00 or 7:00, not 6:00.

[Startrek66]

7 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

Fire from close in.  No tail gunner so you don't have to worry about that.  If they have no fighter cover they are defenseless.  Take your time, shoot from 5:00 or 7:00, not 6:00.

Yes, I found hitting the rudder or stabilizer really effective. I try 5 or 7, not six. 

15 minutes ago, Irishratticus72 said:

High side pass on the cockpit, or low side pass on the radiator. 

I agree with you if the type is 1943.

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

From 5/ 7 oclock low, oil radiator. Also I find the tail section a bit fragile, I never read anything saying it was a weakness for the IL2 before though. Most of the time though, accumulated damage will make the IL2 nosedive and crash. Pilot kills and fires are very rare which is realistic.

Edited April 5, 2021 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[Ram399]

I like to move in to point blank range matching speed and then drift up to the IL-2's high 4 or 8 before kicking the rudder over to get an angle on the cockpit and the other important bits on the front.

Edit: also if time is no concern and ammo is at a premium then its the oil radiator all day.

Edited April 5, 2021 by Ram399

[Startrek66]

The Il2 aircraft underwent a constructive change from the pre-war state to the war.  This evolution from the metal rear fuselage to the 1942 style with wooden rear fuselage.  This information I found on the web.  The photo I have attached represents an aircraft with a wooden fuselage.  Here the developers have modeled the structure of the aircraft correctly and therefore the tail is a weak point.

 

[RyanR]

It's pretty hopeless with a single 20mm. In close, on tail does seem to be the way to go.

 

Just be careful with this strategy in the BoK, as tail gunners suddenly pop up.... and point blank range is quite a surprise. I learned that lesson the hard way.

 

-Ryan