Playable Train?

[LF_Dregal]

You have added Tanks and will also add Vehicle Mounted Anti-Aircraft Gun, do you have any plans to make the locomotive playable in the future?

I was thinking it would be a lot of fun to take troops and supplies by train in multiplayer. It would be great to defend the train with Anti-Aircraft Gun, and to be able to handle the locomotive like a train simulator, especially in VR.

 

what do you think?

[QB.Shallot]

100% Support this. I think a fully fledged out module of trains would really bring the game to life. Think about how cool it would be to get strafed by a flight of Tempests while you're trying to get to whatever your destination may be. Having some crew management aspect to it would be great as well.

[Noisemaker]

That movie has already been done.

 

[kendo]

No. Sorry.

 

Up there with moving pilot eyes as superfluous and unnecessary.

[Cybermat47]

 

[Creep]

I think this could be a significant untapped source of revenue for 1c to explore. Boomers love airplanes, smoked meats, and model railroads. I’m sure at least as many people that paid for Tank Crew could be convinced to open their wallets for some DLC locomotives. 1c stands to make tens of dollars from this.

[Avimimus]

I actually support this myself  I'd love to travel around IOW in a train... the sim is pretty detailed, although the track isn't really (they'd need to install working switches etc.)...

 

I think I actually asked Team Fusion about that once (shortly after riding around on a train via the controllable anti-aircraft guns). Probably a lower priority than torpedo boats or more tanks I should think though... and we could really do with a few AI aircraft to make the historical plane sets more complete.

 

That said - regarding improvements that would benefit air-combat ...making a refinement pass on train behaviours and physics would be good. IMHO, trains should usually come to a halt under attack, try to put up a smokescreen, and have their crews bail out... and damage to a railcar should cause it to catch on fire while still moving, while catastrophic damage should lead to a derailment of other cars. What we currently have is an automatic uncoupling and breaking of all the cars behind the destroyed car... which isn't that realistic.

[Retnek]

For a first step it would be nice to simulate some basics: trains with 50 waggons, combine a basic set of waggons to different types of trains. Add simple switches and a most primitive signalling logic to offer a whole new world of immersive campaigns. Except the pure shooter kids all other pilots immediately see a rise of operational options, reason and immersion. Mission builders wait for the basic train options from the very beginning.
Btw: first step for an enhanced train simulation would be a rail-road-map-editor, strict rules and quality-control for the community-input to build the historically correct train-routes. Given that I bet within some month we'd see the most impressive simulation of a historical railroad-system for every map. But there's history buffs dream and business men calculation ...

[RedKestrel]

Ya gotta level with me guys - how many people in this thread are being serious right now?

[Avimimus]

49 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

Ya gotta level with me guys - how many people in this thread are being serious right now?

 

My guess would be about 3.25 of us.

[SharpeXB]

No. Seems super boring to me. There are already train sim games, It’s a different audience altogether. 

[Hitcher]

/s

[RedKestrel]

10 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

No. Seems super boring to me. There are already train sim games, It’s a different audience altogether. 

(Everyone in the thread, all together). It's a different audience.

[Rjel]

40 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

No. Seems super boring to me. There are already train sim games, It’s a different audience altogether. 

 

27 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

(Everyone in the thread, all together). It's a different audience.

Now, if you're going to do an Airplane! type quote it should read "It's a different audience....altogether.

[Stoopy]

2 hours ago, RedKestrel said:

Ya gotta level with me guys - how many people in this thread are being serious right now?

 

What's not to be serious about? The shoveling of coal into the firebox in the hopes of gaining another kilometer per hour in speed to evade the two Fw-190's coming in on your caboose for another strafing run... the adjustments to the Johnson bar to throw off their aim as they open fire... the excitement of opening a release valve at just the right time to eject a cloud of steam from the blower pipe right in their path as they streak by, scalding one of the pilots and causing him to lose control and crash... That feeling of accomplishment and relief as you bring your iron horse to a perfect stop in front of the railyard's water tank and take on a fresh load of boiler water in anticipation of your next mission.    Lots of room for immersion here!

 

[RedKestrel]

2 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

 

What's not to be serious about? The shoveling of coal into the firebox in the hopes of gaining another kilometer per hour in speed to evade the two Fw-190's coming in on your caboose for another strafing run... the adjustments to the Johnson bar to throw off their aim as they open fire... the excitement of opening a release valve at just the right time to eject a cloud of steam from the blower pipe right in their path as they streak by, scalding one of the pilots and causing him to lose control and crash... That feeling of accomplishment and relief as you bring your iron horse to a perfect stop in front of the railyard's water tank and take on a fresh load of boiler water in anticipation of your next mission.    Lots of room for immersion here!

 

If they included first person bailout mechanics when you jump from the moving train to avoid getting strafed, I'll buy it.

[Hitcher]

I'd pay £60 to be at ground zero of an ammo cart explosion 

 

Thomas the flak engine 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Thomas the Flak Engine cracked me up. Someone needs to Photshop that image immediatley.

[ww2fighter20]

Trains and the entire train network is just too simplified to make trains playable.

Trains can't drive over high grade/slopes in real life and in this game grades are insane, this is especially noticeable with bridges.

The reason this is done in the game is that they don't need to make embankments and tunnels for traintracks which speeds the routebuilding process.

We don't have junctions or even connected tracks for these to work.

The entire tracknetwork has to be built from scratch on each map which is just not going to happen.

These are just some of the main issues that to be adresses in order to make trains playable in any realistic sence.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

2 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

My guess would be about 3.25 of us.

3.23, I'm personally bringing the average down a tad.

[Stoopy]

 

1 hour ago, RedKestrel said:

If they included first person bailout mechanics when you jump from the moving train to avoid getting strafed, I'll buy it.

 

See, I just knew that as an experienced P-47 driver, you'd quickly latch on to the parallels of piloting 94 tons of steaming, fiery iron down the tracks on a fixed trajectory toward glory and certain doom.  It's intoxicating., isn't it?!

 

I'm even more looking forward to the potential Multiplayer squadrons that we might see form out of this as players find mutual interest in combining tactics in the online environment:

 

The Blazing Engineers
Ol' Zugdgeschwader No.86
4:15 out of Surovikino Dogz

 

Edited March 14, 2021 by Stoopy

[itsbillyfrazier]

1 hour ago, Stoopy said:

 

What's not to be serious about? The shoveling of coal into the firebox in the hopes of gaining another kilometer per hour in speed to evade the two Fw-190's coming in on your caboose for another strafing run... the adjustments to the Johnson bar to throw off their aim as they open fire... the excitement of opening a release valve at just the right time to eject a cloud of steam from the blower pipe right in their path as they streak by, scalding one of the pilots and causing him to lose control and crash... That feeling of accomplishment and relief as you bring your iron horse to a perfect stop in front of the railyard's water tank and take on a fresh load of boiler water in anticipation of your next mission.    Lots of room for immersion here!

 

 

All it took was to read this post,  and now I'm sold. Take my money for the train module 1C! ?

[Stoopy]

4 hours ago, RedKestrel said:

If they included first person bailout mechanics when you jump from the moving train to avoid getting strafed, I'll buy it.

 

 

[kendo]

I see all that pent-up energy from the DVD thread needed somewhere new to go.......

[Cybermat47]

7 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

Thomas the Flak Engine cracked me up. Someone needs to Photshop that image immediatley.

 

Not quite Thomas the Flak Engine, but I was able to come up with this...

 

[kendo]

I suppose if they do release it, it will only be available on Steam

 

 

Edited March 15, 2021 by kendo

[Noisemaker]

For the couple of people who believe this idea would fly, I just want to tell you both good luck.  We're all counting on you.

 

[DBFlyguy]

 

but just in case... Here ya go:

 

https://store.steampowered.com/app/24010/Train_Simulator_2021/

 

Have fun! ?

Edited March 15, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[RedKestrel]

40 minutes ago, Noisemaker said:

For the couple of people who believe this idea would fly, I just want to tell you both good luck.  We're all counting on you.

 

This thread is giving me a drinking problem.

[Creep]

5 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

This thread is giving me a drinking problem.

We're starting to get off track, please don't derail the discussion

[RedKestrel]

6 minutes ago, QB.Creep said:

We're starting to get off track, please don't derail the discussion

Sorry, I guess I didn't gauge the tone of the thread, I'm really running out of steam lately. Next time I'll make sure I do it in the right (of) way. 

[Jade_Monkey]

I'd be ok with making the AAA wagons controllable if it's just low effort copy the mechanism of the controllable truck.

 

Definitely not interested in controlling the train though.

Edited March 25, 2021 by Jade_Monkey

[jollyjack]

On 3/14/2021 at 3:40 PM, SharpeXB said:

No. Seems super boring to me. There are already train sim games, It’s a different audience altogether. 

 

Well, for one, train sims are super boring generally; IL2 trains are more fun; full of steam and you can blow 'em up.

As player in a train you''l get complaints about the bumpy rides however.

Ambushing trains and blowing them up with tanks is good sport, what i miss there is an armored willys.

What about a possibility for French resistance workers to do just that? Wouldn't make BoN even beterr?

 

[SharpeXB]

Hey the world of really boring sims has no bounds! ?

 

 

[jollyjack]

Ah, it needs an update .... corona face masks at least. Without you are not allowed on a bus here ...