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For me, Normandy is the most exciting module announced to date. Of course, excitement turns into intrigue and leaves me with a lot of questions about the content we'll be getting.

 

 

1. The campaign will start in April and end in August. With that in mind are we likely to see the Normandy map in all seasons like the Rhineland map?

 

2. BoN will be coming with the V-1 flying bomb. Will this also include the blocks for V-1 launch sites? Attacks on these launch sites were huge and could provide the premise for some very interesting mission design - Check out Operation Crossbow.

 

3. Will the Mosquito have a crewable navigators position? Sounds like a daft question but these positions aren't available on similar aircraft unless they have a gun to operate. Aircraft such as the Ju-52, U2-VS, A-20 only have extra crew positions available if they operate a turret.

 

4. Will the coastlines on both sides of the channel get proper defenses? Atlantic wall positions for the mainland and coastal batteries for the south of England.

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4 hours ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

For me, Normandy is the most exciting module announced to date. Of course, excitement turns into intrigue and leaves me with a lot of questions about the content we'll be getting.

 

1. The campaign will start in April and end in August. With that in mind are we likely to see the Normandy map in all seasons like the Rhineland map?

2. BoN will be coming with the V-1 flying bomb. Will this also include the blocks for V-1 launch sites? Attacks on these launch sites were huge and could provide the premise for some very interesting mission design - Check out Operation Crossbow.

3. Will the Mosquito have a crewable navigators position? Sounds like a daft question but these positions aren't available on similar aircraft unless they have a gun to operate. Aircraft such as the Ju-52, U2-VS, A-20 only have extra crew positions available if they operate a turret.

4. Will the coastlines on both sides of the channel get proper defenses? Atlantic wall positions for the mainland and coastal batteries for the south of England.

 

  1. Not sure about seasons but there will be both pre and post invasion versions (main difference will probably be advanced landing grounds). That will allow players to fly some earlier scenarios (1943) with the planes in prior expansions (Spitfire Mk V, earlier 109s and 190s, He111, Stuka, Ju88) and a little bit of imagination.
  2. It's just my opinion but I would say YES, I have no doubts about it.
  3. No idea.
  4. We don't know the level of detail yet but in my opinion there will likely be static coastal defenses at a minimum.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

 

  1. Not sure about seasons but there will be both pre and post invasion versions (main difference will probably be advanced landing grounds). That will allow players to fly some earlier scenarios (1943) with the planes in prior expansions (Spitfire Mk V, earlier 109s and 190s, He111, Stuka, Ju88) and a little bit of imagination.
  2. It's just my opinion but I would say YES, I have no doubts about it.
  3. No idea.
  4. We don't know the level of detail yet but in my opinion there will likely be static coastal defenses at a minimum.

 

 

 

Very much looking forwards to those 42/43 scenarios. IMO the channel map has the most potential then of all other maps to date.

 

I hope you're right about the V1s! Though I can easily picture them being air start only...

 

As for the Mossie, it'd be really cool to have the navigators position if not for anything other than sightseeing.

 

I'm sure they'll show us some of the ground assets some point in the near future.

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Hello 616Sqn_Tyggz, my thoughts for what they are worth.;)

 

 

1.  The channel map will/should have the greatest amount of playability I think due to where it is/was from the historical perspective so I think it will come in various seasons from the start rather than add some later because we hope the team will understand the purchase potential of the area because it can be used to cover all of the war years in reality.

 

2.  I think so, the V1 requires that infrastructure to launch anyway, cannot imagine they will just have them air start but I could be wrong, and from a target point of view much easier to build than normal runways and more interesting trying to find them as they were semi mobile if memory serves.

 

3.  Not likely as this function is not included in the series anyway and is not actually necessary to be honest although from M.P. point of view could be interesting for two to crew the Mosquito I suppose but many other things most likely take priority over it.

 

4.  There might be some minimal detail of defensive structures on the map, however, the module is not so much about the invasion itself as the lead up to and onward from after it.  There might be detail blocks available to mission/campaign builders but the map I think will ship without too much infrastructure to pin it to certain periods of time to allow a broader use, same with ships, do not expect too much.

 

For most just having a piece of those coastlines will be adequate enough, their imagination can run riot with that and all manner of activity will become available from the community to fully utilise the potential.

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.:biggrin:

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14 hours ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

2. BoN will be coming with the V-1 flying bomb. Will this also include the blocks for V-1 launch sites? Attacks on these launch sites were huge and could provide the premise for some very interesting mission design - Check out Operation Crossbow.

There were quite some v1 sites on the upcoming Normandy map so I think it's likely.

If you take an general V1 site like shown in this picture.

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I think it's unlikely we get the entire site, maybe the launch ramp (with or without the control post attached) as 1 object which can be copied and pasted over the map.

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Didn’t HE 111s carry V-1s ?  Just a thought.......

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1 hour ago, Mm1ut1 said:

Didn’t HE 111s carry V-1s ?  Just a thought.......

Only late versions and not really in mass

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On 2/14/2021 at 11:27 AM, ww2fighter20 said:

If you take an general V1 site like shown in this picture.

That's a really interesting illustration. I've seen quite a few different layouts for V-1 launch sites

There's an Osprey book on the V weapons and their launch sites that gives some insight on other configurations.

 

On 2/14/2021 at 9:49 AM, Missionbug said:

2.  I think so, the V1 requires that infrastructure to launch anyway, cannot imagine they will just have them air start but I could be wrong, and from a target point of view much easier to build than normal runways and more interesting trying to find them as they were semi mobile if memory serves.

 

Your guess is as good as mine. :)

 

So long as the launch ramp is made at the very least, it will leave the launch site more customizable for mission makers and the map making team.

It also means that V-1 launch sites could be retrospectively added to the Rhineland map as V-1s were also launched against Brussels and Antwerp.

 

Page taken from Osprey Publishing: German V-Weapon Sites 1943-45

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V-1s were launched against Antwerp for its strategic value. While flying bombs launched against most other targets were true to their "Vengeance" weapon nature.

A flak corridor and radar screen was implemented which prevented the majority of the flying bombs from reaching their target.

 

On 2/14/2021 at 9:49 AM, Missionbug said:

4.  There might be some minimal detail of defensive structures on the map

 

I'm thinking about casemates as a static thing. The coastal guns they house would be quite a stretch to make work, so having them static would be the way to go.

That way it should at least provide the grounds for armed reconnaissance missions in bombed up fighters patrolling the French coast looking for a German position to attack.

 

40 minutes ago, Mm1ut1 said:

Didn’t HE 111s carry V-1s ?  Just a thought.......

 

I think that those Heinkels may have only operated from Norway. Though I could be wrong.

Launching V-1s this way was the only method of hitting northern UK cities as V-1 launch sites elsewhere didn't have the range.

 

the engine doesn't support parasitic aircraft so I can't see it happening in this gen of IL-2...

(That and I'm guessing there's a lot of differences between the He 111 H-22 and the He 111 H-16 we already have)

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5 hours ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

I think that those Heinkels may have only operated from Norway. Though I could be wrong.

Launching V-1s this way was the only method of hitting northern UK cities as V-1 launch sites elsewhere didn't have the range.

 

Those 111s operated from German airfields near the coast of the North Sea. Those sort of operations didn't last for long, as it was easy for the RAF to pick up the characteristic flame of the V-1 when it was being launched.

 

5 hours ago, 616Sqn_Tyggz said:

That and I'm guessing there's a lot of differences between the He 111 H-22 and the He 111 H-16 we already have

 

Yes, they were typically H-21s or H-16s refitted with a rotating dorsal turret and other internal changes needed to launch a V-1.

 

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