DetCord12B Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 They're looking good thus far, bugs and all. 1
Gambit21 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I can tell just by the title that I’d hate this game.
DD_fruitbat Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Gambit21 said: I can tell just by the title that I’d hate this game. Never judge a man by his umbrella, it might not be his.... 1
CanadaOne Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Gambit21 said: I can tell just by the title that I’d hate this game. But... but... the hype! Apparently it's a looooong game if you actually play to the end. Doesn't look like my cup of tea either. I'll stick to Universe Sandbox. It's like IL2, but with planets instead of planes. http://universesandbox.com/
Hanu Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 CD Projekt's Witcher games have been the best RPG you can have, so I'm quite confident that CP 2077 will have as strong characters and quests like The Witcher games had. My only worry is that Cyberpunk was "cool stuff" in 80's and 90's as it was far from reality at the time... Now there is a big possibilty that it could bring today's world excessive hedonism to my mind with all the idiotic stuff that comes with it. And I do not want that. But we'll see. The game is pre-downloaded and I'm waiting for the 10th of december.
CanadaOne Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 It says on Steam it's out on the 9th. (Sorry to nitpick.) Possibly a 70GB download and I'm guessing there will be a few people buying it. Their servers are going to be bu-zy!
Hanu Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: It says on Steam it's out on the 9th. (Sorry to nitpick.) Possibly a 70GB download and I'm guessing there will be a few people buying it. Their servers are going to be bu-zy! Well the game itself says "Go back to sleep, Samurai. It's not December 10th yet!" if you try to launch pre-downloaded version, so no problem. 1
CanadaOne Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 That's pretty funny. It does look like it's got the big fat visuals, that's for sure.
Tektolnes Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 100% getting this. Will give it a few months to settle down.
firdimigdi Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 6 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said: Never judge a man by his umbrella, it might not be his.... Unless you walk a mile in his shoes. Then at least you are a mile away and he's got no shoes. 6
Gambit21 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 7 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said: Never judge a man by his umbrella, it might not be his.... Yeah - watched a few minutes of the review. I was dead-nuts on.
Trooper117 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Something tells me I won't be getting it.... it looks great, but it doesn't flick my switch!
CanadaOne Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Definitely not my kind of game, but apparently it's making the social justice warrior bozos upset and that makes me very happy. 3
kestrel79 Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 These kind of games take hundreds of hours to beat, I just don't have the time for that anymore sadly. I've heard they are amazing. Maybe I'll get it on sale a few years down the road when all the bugs are gone and it's packaged with DLC in a Game of the Year edition like The Witcher was.
Gambit21 Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 21 hours ago, CanadaOne said: Definitely not my kind of game, but apparently it's making the social justice warrior bozos upset and that makes me very happy. Suddenly I love this game!! 1
CanadaOne Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Suddenly I love this game!! I know, it's really great. I tell ya, I'm on the verge of buying it. Nothin better than laughing at woke wankers and financing their foes.
Gambit21 Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: I know, it's really great. I tell ya, I'm on the verge of buying it. Nothin better than laughing at woke wankers and financing their foes. Now I feel like buying 1000 copies even though I'll never play it. Although if I get to smack the crap out of some idiots, I might just play it.
DetCord12B Posted December 10, 2020 Author Posted December 10, 2020 I'm loving it thus far. Visually it's stunning, it's incredibly deep with regards to the world building, has tons of atmosphere, especially the corporatocracy the game world revolves around. I'm only at two hours or so in and I haven't really done much of anything yet. Really looking forward to diving deep though. I will say that a lot of people are experiencing some serious performance issue with beefy systems. I've been lucky I guess, running it maxed out at 1440p on a 2080ti, though people with similar systems are having a lot of issues. Guessing the saving grace for me is my i7 9700k OC'd to 5GHz, which makes me wonder how CPU dependent it is. So, if you're thinking about picking it up make sure you understand the performance issues you might encounter. 1
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Gambit21 said: Now I feel like buying 1000 copies even though I'll never play it. Although if I get to smack the crap out of some idiots, I might just play it. The SJW game reviewers are losing their minds. Apparently they want some people who disagree with them kicked off Youtube. I went to the lowest reaches of my intellect and watched some videos about all this yesterday and it's hysterical. The Woke tears are flowing and they are delicious. I also use them to lubricate the bar on my chainsaw. There's no flake like a snowflake. 1
OrLoK Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Im what most folk would call a "snowflake" lefty liberal hippy, and i rather like CP:2077,but remember, just because one person is a "type" they dont represent the views of everyone of that "type". 1
blue_max Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: The SJW game reviewers are losing their minds. Apparently they want some people who disagree with them kicked off Youtube. I went to the lowest reaches of my intellect and watched some videos about all this yesterday and it's hysterical. The Woke tears are flowing and they are delicious. I also use them to lubricate the bar on my chainsaw. There's no flake like a snowflake. Guys, let's try not do the whole woke tears SJW snowflake melting brain stuff. It's kinda ridiculous and mostly just makes you look like an unpleasant person. It's just a game. 1 3
AndyJWest Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Being an old-school lefty of the 'throw rocks at the police and take the consequences' school of thought rather than a liberal snowflake, I'd have to suggest that any 'SJW' getting uptight about video games right now should probably rethink their priorities. Of course, it wasn't the SJWs that started the whole 'video games promote wrongthink' argument anyway. 1
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, blue_max said: Guys, let's try not do the whole woke tears SJW snowflake melting brain stuff. It's kinda ridiculous and mostly just makes you look like an unpleasant person. It's just a game. We'll have to agree to disagree. Snowflakes have one and only one priority - limiting free speech. And they are willing to be horrible in pursuit of that goal. The more snowflakes that melt, the better the world will be. I'm right on the verge of buying this game simply because it will finance people who piss off SJWs. Money well spent!
AndyJWest Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 I'm on the verge of not buying the game because it isn't the sort of game I'm interested in. If this upsets everyone who thinks that game purchases are acts of political allegiance, that's is merely a useful side effect. And isn't getting needlessly worked up about what the 'snowflakes' are up to itself a symptom of snowflakery anyway? 2
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Only if it mirrors their efforts. And as much as snowflakes are horrible sniveling little things, I would never deny them the right to voice their opinions. They, on the other hand, would go bonkers trying to shut me and you and everybody else up as soon as an "offending" word was spoken. That's the difference.
9./JG27golani79 Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Played it for ~1h and so far I like it very much - it has great atmosphere. But I need to finish another game first .. will return to Cyberpunk asap though ?
blue_max Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: I'm on the verge of not buying the game because it isn't the sort of game I'm interested in. If this upsets everyone who thinks that game purchases are acts of political allegiance, that's is merely a useful side effect. And isn't getting needlessly worked up about what the 'snowflakes' are up to itself a symptom of snowflakery anyway? Yeah the hilarious thing is that I always see people getting all worked up about SJWs and snowflakes, but I never actually meet any snowflakes or SJWs. Seems to me that the gamergate crowd are the real snowflakes, getting all worked up over every tiny thing they see as political or whatever is the problem of the day. 2
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, blue_max said: Yeah the hilarious thing is that I always see people getting all worked up about SJWs and snowflakes, but I never actually meet any snowflakes or SJWs. Seems to me that the gamergate crowd are the real snowflakes, getting all worked up over every tiny thing they see as political or whatever is the problem of the day. You have a right to that opinion and no one should try and shut you down for having it. In fact, if someone tried to limit your right to say what you just said, I'd give you my space so you could say it. The snowflakes and SJWs, however, do the opposite. They are for de-platforming. They are for censorship. They are for cancel-culture. They are extremists in the battle for less freedom of expression. And they would turn on you in a heartbeat and try and shut you up as soon if your purity was shown to be lacking. But I'll still be there saying you have an inalienable right to free expression. 1
Avimimus Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) On 12/8/2020 at 4:30 PM, CanadaOne said: Definitely not my kind of game, but apparently it's making the social justice warrior bozos upset and that makes me very happy. 33 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: Only if it mirrors their efforts. And as much as snowflakes are horrible sniveling little things, I would never deny them the right to voice their opinions. They, on the other hand, would go bonkers trying to shut me and you and everybody else up as soon as an "offending" word was spoken. That's the difference. Really? Because I've not seen anything... and I run in those circles. I did see some people on the right get briefly upset that you could play a transgendered character. But even that has faded away. Also... as a Canadian you should know that Snowflakes blanket everything, can form into dangerous amounts of ice (even glaciers which crush all before them)... and you should also know that not all snowflakes are unique (they actually have predictable growth patterns). So... I'm not sure why you think it is an insult... By the way - we should honour the name: https://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/5568.html 20 minutes ago, blue_max said: Yeah the hilarious thing is that I always see people getting all worked up about SJWs and snowflakes, but I never actually meet any snowflakes or SJWs. Seems to me that the gamergate crowd are the real snowflakes, getting all worked up over every tiny thing they see as political or whatever is the problem of the day. Oh! I am. I'm totally an SJW...! I believe in not allowing things like slavery, and allowing people in a abusive relationships to get divorces, and ensuring kids are well fed and educated (regardless of how much their parents make), and that everyone deserves dignity (regardless of their job, and regardless of whether we respect them personally)! We must always be willing to put in effort to make society more just... otherwise we'd still be in the Victorian era. Edited December 10, 2020 by Avimimus 1 3
blue_max Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Yeah exactly. The right wing gamers get super upset every time a girl or *gasp* transgender shows up in a game. That's about it. I run in fairly left wing circles, and beyond the wacko extremists this whole 'taking away your freedoms' just doesn't exist outside the hyperbolic youtube videos. Gotta enrage those gamers to get those sweet sweet add moneyzzzz yo. 5 minutes ago, Avimimus said: Oh! I am. I'm totally an SJW...! I believe in not allowing things like slavery, and allowing people in a abusive relationships to get divorces, and ensuring kids are well fed and educated (regardless of how much their parents make), and that everyone deserves dignity (regardless of their job, and regardless of whether we respect them personally)! We must always be willing to put in effort to make society more just... otherwise we'd still be in the Victorian era. My god Avimimus, how dare you threaten the fragile white male ego with your horrible ideas! 1 1
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 I'm for freedom of speech for everyone. Snowflakes aren't. It's that simple.
Avimimus Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, blue_max said: My god Avimimus, how dare you threaten the fragile white male ego with your horrible ideas! I find it the apparent conflict is usually a result of people being in echo chambers... it produces a degree of fragility if you never actually learn about the other side by talking to them... but instead only consume propaganda about them... That said, have you checked out Innuendo Studio / Ian Danskin on Youtube? His stuff is pretty interesting. I really need to get some of my more right-wing friends to respond to it though (to avoid risking the echo chamber myself) 5 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: I'm for freedom of speech for everyone. Snowflakes aren't. It's that simple. Out of curiosity to you put any limits on freedom of speech? For instance, is it alright to advocate for the assassination of a politician? Or to advocate for ethnic cleansing or the non-constitutional overthrow of the government? P.S. An interesting note is that the left-wing traditionally tended towards free-speech absolutism (as they often experienced some of the harshest censorship in the 19th and early 20th century)... so I view my own support for our laws limiting hate-speech in Canada as being largely a Tory influence (i.e. valuing social order) which goes against left-wing traditions. Edited December 10, 2020 by Avimimus
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 An open vibrant conversation of opposing viewpoints. Perfect!
Avimimus Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, CanadaOne said: An open vibrant conversation of opposing viewpoints. Perfect! If you want to move to private messages for a bit - it is more likely to work than having political discussions in the open (where moderators may have to step in).
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Avimimus said: Out of curiosity to you put any limits on freedom of speech? For instance, is it alright to advocate for the assassination of a politician? Or to advocate for ethnic cleansing or the non-constitutional overthrow of the government? No right is absolute. But it's best if the envelope faces outward pressure and not inward. 1 minute ago, Avimimus said: If you want to move to private messages for a bit - it is more likely to work than having political discussions in the open (where moderators may have to step in). Not interested in politics. Just free speech.
Avimimus Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: No right is absolute. But it's best if the envelope faces outward pressure and not inward. I can't argue with that... and some rights do have some responsibilities attached. Some people are pushing for freedom of speech that would allow the kind of things I just described to be pushed very aggressively though. The same goes for trying to use freedom of speech to defend bullying in the workplace... there are some situations where I suspect freedom of speech can be limited. (also on privately owned forums where political discussion - even civil discussion - could overwhelm other topics if unmoderated) Edited December 10, 2020 by Avimimus
CanadaOne Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 True dat. As for how free speech goes, I would much, much prefer you have the right to call me wrong/stupid/an asshole in public and in print than not have the right. Outward pressure always.
Jason_Williams Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Cool it with the political talk. Not the place. Jason 3 1
WheelwrightPL Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 But political/social talk kindof ties in to the dystopian future in Cyberpunk 2077, because for me it is easy to see that unrestrained libertarianism could lead to a society like that. People need a well-functioning, strong, central government to protect ourselves from our worst instincts. Or else some time in the future we may end-up in violent, entirely money-based, darwinian society. Even today powerful political forces which drive this agenda barely lost an election in the USA, so Cyberpunk-like society may very well yet happen. And as the past 4 years proved: billionaire-funded political parties led by narcissistic psychopaths can easily dupe the brainwashed masses into believing this is the right way forward. 4
Hoots Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: True dat. As for how free speech goes, I would much, much prefer you have the right to call me wrong/stupid/an asshole in public and in print than not have the right. Outward pressure always. I don't think anyone wants to limit that right (although defamation laws exist even in the great lands of North America and have done for quite a while) pretty much all I ever see are people asking that those who use homophobic or racist abuse are locked up for it. And the trouble with allowing hate speech is that it is usually directed downwards from a position of power or strength.
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