landing a camel...

[SecretlyCanadian]

I'm at a loss on how to do this.  I watched Requiems' video tutorial and tried to follow but to not avail.

 

As soon as I touch down plane spins to the left.  Tried backpressure and rudder but it makes me pop back up.  Is there a trick to doing this?

[RNAS10_Oliver]

Your popping back up into the air when you hold the stick back on landing? So sounds as though you’ve got too much airspeed. Just closing the throttle tends to not be enough in the Camel. Gotta use that blip switch dude. Also I often tend to side slip on approach to help bleed the excess airspeed faster. Landing into wind, if there is any, also enables you to come in at an slower approach speed.

 

For avoiding ground loops in the Camel once you’ve achieved three point landing you just keep the stick back and use rudder. The rudder also requires air moving over it to work (whether from airspeed or prop wash) so you also add full power back on in bursts (enough to keep you going straight but not speeding up) with the blip switch.

 

At least that’s my process for landing and taxiing in the Camel more or less. I love me a bit of blipping. Buzz Cack Buzz Cack.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Oliver88

[No.23_Gaylion]

Land with 30% throttle. Don't go idle until you're slow.

Edited December 8, 2020 by US93_Talbot

[ZachariasX]

Not landing into the wind is the most common cause for ground loops.

 

Keeping some throttle helps indeed. It may however render some airfields rather small if you plan to land (and come to a stop) right at the refuel point.

 

For me it works best to shut the engine completely and make a glider landing. When you flair out the Camel, there is a point where it drops the wing. You should touch down right before that happens if you executed your landing properly. The roll will be very short and it will  have stopped before it turns. Important, I reiterate, always check the windsock and ALWAYS land straight into the wind.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Using above tips you should be fine. 

BTW recently landed perfectly without using elevator and ailerons on unpaved airstart field on Flugpark because my controls rods where jammed hehehe 

So using throttle, blip and yaw is enough 

Edited December 8, 2020 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[76SQN-FatherTed]

8 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Using above tips you should be fine. 

BTW recently landed perfectly without using elevator and ailerons on unpaved airstart field on Flugpark because my controls rods where jammed hehehe 

So using throttle, blip and yaw is enough 

Yeah, if you've got about 8 million hours on type?

[SecretlyCanadian]

thanks guys! 

 

What speed should i be around when i touch down?  I assume I should have blipper down when the wheels hit (and release if i need to rudder?)

 

For whatever reason I am finding this difficult.  The non-radial engine planes seem a lot easier to land.

[ZachariasX]

4 hours ago, SecretlyCanadian said:

What speed should i be around when i touch down? 

Depends on your weight. Best get a feeling for when she drops a wing when you stall her out and get both a sense of that joystick position and the nose attitude of the plane. You‘ll be doing almost a threepointer in that situation. NOT dropping your tail will also help you prevent a ground loop when doing a glider landing with little rudder authority.

 

Just when flying, cut the engine and stall her out a couple of times until you get a sense of what happens in which timeframe. You then kniw when is the exact moment to settle her.

 

Coming in idle instead of stopped engine will extend your flair before touchdown and extend your roll, hence increasing the chances of a ground loop. You can always restart the engine and taxi to the refueling point. I find it much harder to do precise short field landings with engine on.

 

We don‘t really need the blip that much in the game, as the rotaries idle like regular engines.

[J2_Bidu]

Don't dive to the airfield. Find the speed where you descend with the nose up, be it by lowering the throttle, using the blip switch often or both. If you feel you'll overshoot, don't dive, go around again. Nose up is the right way. If you can control this descent when you're higher, it will be alright when you're close to the ground. When just about to reach the ground low you can force the stall with the blip. When you get this done, then later you'll be able to speed it up by diving, side slipping, etc. It does land much better than the DR1.

 

[jollyjack]

it's still difficult for me:

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by jollyjack

[1PL-Sahaj-1Esk]

blip switch, blip switch

[jollyjack]

now i heard about that, what was it again?

[Guest deleted@219798]

Come in low and slow almost stalling speed. Lots of Camel jockeys died just flying that crate. I'll stick to the Dr1.