Dutch Coast and North Ardennes - Rheinland

[jollyjack]

Dutch Coast: Here along the not very realistic done Dutch Rheinland coastline, with whole important cities and harbors missing, and especially no dunes (how can that be?) was the Dutch-Atlantic Wall.

Many bunkers are there still, and pop up today occasionally after a storm. We played in those forbidden areas as kids.

Dangerous too, there was a lot of stuff left behind like substances causing health problems for some kids later in life due unknown poisoning.

https://www.atlantikwall-museum.nl/the-atlantikwall.html

 

All over the Rheinland coast were tons of German bunkers. The whole Atlantic Wall had big guns in them to keep the goodguys out and away.

None in the latter in the game alas it seems. If Normandy is also like that it won't be very historical.

However good game fun if you like sim flying and blowing up things as main interest. FC2 on the way, now that's some good news !

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Ardennes: I once partly explored a very large unmapped underground area with tunnels and compound areas near Luttich/Liege (Belgian North Ardennes) with a friend when i was about 17.

Those tunnels and connected areas are quite old and miles long; you could really get lost in the spooky darkness. We just had some simple flashlights alas and some rope. 

Exciting trip that was, it seemed then that it was a forbidden Military area. Of course the Nazis used them.

After WW2 some workers must have had cleaned them out as the only stuff they left was junk besides non working lights at the sometimes 20m high tunnel ceilings.

 

Today a touristic attraction:

https://walloniabelgiumtourism.co.uk/en-gb/3/i-love/heritage-and-culture/wallonia-in-the-wars/39-45/defensive-forts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Eben-Emael

[DN308]

Really nice.

With that and further researches, I would be able to reenact the festungs of Ijmuiden and Hook of Holland.

 I just need to figure out how to put it into a mod or whatever.

[Dutch2]

Thats because Uglymedia is making the maps, as long these uninspired amateurs are making a map outside Russia, it’s garbage. Like al those German style houses in the low countries, black ink spots at Arras etc. I’m afraid the same method of map making will be exploited to Normandie and FC2 map. 

I did advice Jason to give that Russian design buro an decent VR headset to check its own 2D map quality and the MS FS2020 DVD, to let them see times are changed since 2010, so who knows. 

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Dutch2

[jollyjack]

On 1/3/2021 at 8:31 AM, DN308 said:

Really nice.

With that and further researches, I would be able to reenact the festungs of Ijmuiden and Hook of Holland.

 I just need to figure out how to put it into a mod or whatever.

 

I tried that, but the bad news is that NO WAY you can save ME made height and map corrections.

That because the 1C-777 disabled the save options for the Height and Map functions present in the current ME.

 

BTW the French and British areas along the Atlantic and North Sea coast in Cliffs are not done that well too ... If Battle of Normandy is done in the same way of the very mediocre state of the current Rheinland map, i won't be really interested, only for the planes and other gaming assets.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2021 by jollyjack

[DN308]

There’s a way to add buildings and road to the map as a mod or so. 

I even succeed in adding some airfields on the map. But you have to save it on the su, sp, au and wi maps. 

[Dutch2]

23 hours ago, jollyjack said:

 

 

BTW the French and British areas along the Atlantic and North Sea coast in Cliffs are not done that well too ... If Battle of Normandy is done in the same way of the very mediocre state of the current Rheinland map, i won't be really interested, only for the planes and other gaming assets.

 

 

 

That the same dilemma I have for BoN & FC2, after reading it will Uglymedia’s next project. If I knew it would be something better and improvement I would buy them both. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Dutch2

[jollyjack]

I pre-bought FC2, out of appreciation & support for Jason's efforts to get it off the ground , the same with TC and the moveable AA trucks.

Also because of the uniqueness of the FC game itself.

 

What interests me most about the European scene is the historical value, and it's not there that much and far from complete non-ME correctable..

For game-sake shooting and bombing the Russian maps are good enough.

 

Now BoN would only raise my interest if some playable planes for reconnaissance and transport are added, and the B25 and c47 as flyable LoL.

Also ships, trains, railways largely expanded. Hunting down the Bismarck a mission? Chasing Hitler's and Himmler's personal luxury trains across Rheinland?

For tanks i would like to see them transported by trains to the front, even if non playable. Make that nice Armored train a moving target?