Tank Overheating when undamaged

[JG1_Wittmann]

You can all  probably guess this relates to the Panther.  So I recently used a Panther  in a very long range mission.   Kept to roads to make it possible,    and then engine began  overheating.  Now I have done long missions with a PzIV,  and a Tiger,  and have never had this happen.  It really cuts  your  max road speed because you can't run it like you can the other tanks.  It also has the nasty white billow coming out the back, making it easier for AC to spot you.     Has anyone else had a Tank,   Russian or German overheat on them when undamaged ?

 

This  is just the latest  IMHO  mis-modelling of the Panther,   to include the very poor handling,  when among the german tanks it should be  one of the best, if not #1 .  Has anyone else  noticed that the Panther handles  poorer than the PzIV ?

[SCG_judgedeath3]

The engines in this game can overheat and when you get those white smoke in the back of the engine bay then its a sign you are using too high revs and starting to ovberheat it.
In driver cabin you can check the rpm and I cant remember the panthe rmanual said but if you drive the panther at full speed/max revs then it will overheat, using a throttle controller helps a lot. The engine can even get damaged if you keep driving at max speed when its overheating.This is due to the gearbox and engine and how they are built, its very accurate to what manuals of the tanks says  
Keep an eye on the engine temperature and you should be fine, it should be max 100+C, over that and it will start to overheat. On winter maps its harder to do, and I have managed to get the tiger and panzer IV to overheat too on the prokarovka map on summer in max temperature, after some driving on max rpm, so it can happen to the other tanks too

Its even easier to overheat if the water coolant gets damaged.

Edited December 3, 2020 by SCG_judgedeath3

[JG1_Wittmann]

Good to know on the overheating.    I had not had it happen  before  I ran a 4 hour mission on Finnish.   I had previously run missions with both the Tiger and the PzIV  of @ 3 hrs  and had not seen  the overheat before.  

[40plus]

4 hours ago, JG1_Wittmann said:

Good to know on the overheating.    I had not had it happen  before  I ran a 4 hour mission on Finnish.   I had previously run missions with both the Tiger and the PzIV  of @ 3 hrs  and had not seen  the overheat before.  

What map were you on when you overheated? Was it a summer map?

[LachenKrieg]

8 hours ago, JG1_Wittmann said:

You can all  probably guess this relates to the Panther.  So I recently used a Panther  in a very long range mission.   Kept to roads to make it possible,    and then engine began  overheating.  Now I have done long missions with a PzIV,  and a Tiger,  and have never had this happen.  It really cuts  your  max road speed because you can't run it like you can the other tanks.  It also has the nasty white billow coming out the back, making it easier for AC to spot you.     Has anyone else had a Tank,   Russian or German overheat on them when undamaged ?

 

This  is just the latest  IMHO  mis-modelling of the Panther,   to include the very poor handling,  when among the german tanks it should be  one of the best, if not #1 .  Has anyone else  noticed that the Panther handles  poorer than the PzIV ?

I have never seen this happen to an undamaged tank, Panther or otherwise, but then again I have never done a 3 hr road trip in one either.

 

And I don't know what a throttle controller is, but if you are using a keyboard (cursor keys) to control the throttle, then you will notice that RPM goes easily beyond red line in lower gears.

 

When traveling on roads in top gear, you should be at or just below red line using a keyboard, but beyond what would be considered an acceptable RPM for constant operation. This is one of the advantages of using a joystick over a keyboard to control throttle. You can easily feather the throttle to your desired RPM using a joystick. When traveling cross country though, you should be able to hold it wide open in top gear for as long as you want without any worries, even with a keyboard. 

 

The in-game Tiger for example with the HL 210 generated 650 bhp at 3000 RPM for a top speed of 45kph. But you cant hold it there for long periods of time. The constant road speed is around 40kph with an RPM between 2650 and 2700, but it is hard to hold it exactly there if you are not using a joystick. But when traveling cross country in top gear wide open, you will never get it over 2500 RPM unless you are going down hill.

 

But the point is if you use a keyboard to control throttle, you have to keep an eye on your engine instruments. This is again testament to how well the power trains are modeled in Tank Crew. Anyone interested in details like I am will become enamored with the level of detail given in the Tank Crew models, especially the power trains. 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by LachenKrieg

[beresford]

I've seen this quite a bit, with the Pz IV as well, on long road marches. Now in real life you would just not drive flat-out,  but the throttle only has one setting AFAIK. I'm not sure if going around in a lower gear helps, but this is unrealistic, you would reduce the throttle. What did work was pulling off the road for a while and travelling on the grass.

 

Having now read the previous post, I haven't tried slaving the throttle to the joystick. But the system won't let me delete this message.

Edited December 5, 2020 by beresford

[SCG_judgedeath3]

Its easy to control with a throttle controler like this:


Or if you´re a racing fan like me:

[LachenKrieg]

1 hour ago, beresford said:

I've seen this quite a bit, with the Pz IV as well, on long road marches. Now in real life you would just not drive flat-out,  but the throttle only has one setting AFAIK. I'm not sure if going around in a lower gear helps, but this is unrealistic, you would reduce the throttle. What did work was pulling off the road for a while and travelling on the grass.

 

Having now read the previous post, I haven't tried slaving the throttle to the joystick. But the system won't let me delete this message.

Its all good, your point is well taken. Yes, if you have a joystick, you can get that much closer to the feeling of driving a real Tiger then us mouse users. But like you pointed out, when using a keyboard to control throttle, it is an on/off issue. 

 

 

58 minutes ago, SCG_judgedeath3 said:

Its easy to control with a throttle controler like this:


Or if you´re a racing fan like me:

Yeah either one of those should do the trick nicely

Edited December 5, 2020 by LachenKrieg