Good luck 777 Team :)

[Swabo]

I hope my decent suport will help you , coudnt buy premium ,but in future i will buy all planes on game market

[BlueHeron]

+1.  I've bought every plane in RoF even though I'm far more interested in WWII.  No doubt I'll pick up every crate 777 puts out for this game too.

[Feathered_IV]

It will certainly be exciting to see what aircraft they produce next.  Hopefully some of the lesser represented types will get a look in before it all runs to Spitfires and Mustangs again.

[smink1701]

Mustangs and Spits ... and even P-39s would generate the most interest (and sales), IMHO.  They may be the usual suspects but they are huge crowd pleasers.

[Matt]

These polls give pretty good idea of the planes which we could see next.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/745-poll-what-soviet-lend-lease-fighter-are-you-looking-forward/

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/729-poll-what-non-german-fighter-would-you-see-il-2-bos/

 

And at least some of the devs seem to be fascinated by the I-16.

[smink1701]

The  I-16 is a great example of an obscure plane that will not appeal (and sell) to the masses.  i think very few people dream about flying the  I-16 let alone taking it into combat.  A cute novelty yes.  A wishlist place holder - not so much.

[BraveSirRobin]

You're not the market they want to target.  

[Brano]

One ishak for me,please

[ST_ami7b5]

One ishak for me,please

 

And one more for me.

[Finkeren]

The I-16 is a great example of an obscure plane that will not appeal (and sell) to the masses. i think very few people dream about flying the I-16 let alone taking it into combat. A cute novelty yes. A wishlist place holder - not so much.

I think you're completely mistaken about that. The I-16 was an iconic, and rather popular, plane in the original IL2, and it remains one of the most recignizable Soviet planes of the era.

Also don't forget, that BoS already has a very large Russian customer base, who will scramble to buy the Rata.

 

Btw: How exactly is the I-16 "obscure"? It's an icon of 1930s aircraft development, as well as of both the Spanish Civil War and WW2, and at the time of the outbreak of the war, it was one of the most-produced fighter aircraft in history.

Edited May 21, 2014 by Finkeren

[fergal69]

+1.  I've bought every plane in RoF even though I'm far more interested in WWII.  No doubt I'll pick up every crate 777 puts out for this game too.

 

+1 here - own all the planes/extras though don't fly it very often as perfer WWII, but wanted a decent WWI flight sim. 

[1PL-Banzai-1Esk]

I am waiting for Ishak and hoping for Chaika.

[=CFC=Conky]

The I-16 is a blast to fly and fight in IL2 1946 when matched up with the appropriate opponents. In the Stalingrad context, it might do surprisingly well in ground attack and if it runs into any Stukas...

 

Bring it on!

Edited May 21, 2014 by CFC_Conky

[smink1701]

I think you're completely mistaken about that. The I-16 was an iconic, and rather popular, plane in the original IL2, and it remains one of the most recignizable Soviet planes of the era.

Also don't forget, that BoS already has a very large Russian customer base, who will scramble to buy the Rata.

 

Btw: How exactly is the I-16 "obscure"? It's an icon of 1930s aircraft development, as well as of both the Spanish Civil War and WW2, and at the time of the outbreak of the war, it was one of the most-produced fighter aircraft in history.

You may be completely right.  

[sallee]

I am waiting for Ishak and hoping for Chaika.

I'll take two of each.

I-16 is a personal favourite as well as a groundbreaking aircraft.

[URUAker]

I´ll jump in the rata without hesitation!

In the right hands it can give the 109 a nasty surprise!

[LizLemon]

And keep in mind that an I-16 was made for Cliffs of Dover successor

[Gambit21]

The  I-16 is a great example of an obscure plane that will not appeal (and sell) to the masses.  i think very few people dream about flying the  I-16 let alone taking it into combat.  A cute novelty yes.  A wishlist place holder - not so much.

Ahhh...speak for yourself.

I can't wait to get my trusty dusty I16 back.

I'd love to see an early war plane set next.

[MarcoRossolini]

Considering as well how long an I-16 has been sitting in the back of the RoF hangar...

[Rjel]

I'd love to see planes released in pairs, like a buy one get one free.

One popular plane with a less popular/crap plane in the pairing. 

I think that's a great idea. But I'd go with evenly match opponents (as close as is possible anyway) so that the plane set would stay somewhat close in available numbers of A/C. Sign me up for that.

[Matt]

Not everyone is interested in buying planes from both sides and i think that's a perfectly legitimate opinion, so i wouldn't say that i'm a big fan of this release in pairs, just to make it profitable to introduce planetypes, which would probably not be very popular on their own, into this sim. It would also require the devs to finish two planes first, before even being able to release them (not everyone would simply preorder them).

 

But it also doesn't seem that the devs plan to only release overly popular planes in the future (i could think of a good number of more popular choices than the IAR 80 or Folgore for instance).

 

The devs stated that the they will try a different method than in RoF, so if they stick to that idea, then i guess we will not be able to buy each plane on its own. So who knows how they will handle it in the future.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I am in favor of matched and opposing pairs. On the other hand, I'd like to see a couple of maps and planes sets of 4-6 matched/opposing aircraft every six months (mid year) or so. Maybe 2-4 great/popular/relevant machines and a pair of, "interesting," ones. You could do historical pairs as well - say Fw190 A8 v B-17G as opposed to Spit I vs 109 E1. They don't have to have exact parity as long as there is an obvious relevance.

 

Then I'd like to see a full theater release and all of those same elements about once a year (anniversary/top of the fiscal year.)

 

This, I think, would keep it both interesting and sustainable over several years of development.

Edited May 21, 2014 by A1FltTrn=HerrMurf

[ShamrockOneFive]

Although the I-16 is not one of my all time top favourites... I think it'd be a mistake to think it's unpopular and obscure. Lots of players fly them online in my experience. We had scenarios with Yak-1s and MiG-3s but the most popular was nearly always the I-16. Especially if the 20mm ShVAK version is available.

[BlitzPig_EL]

I'll take an I-16 and an I-153 thank you., with a side helping of P 40 and CR-42.

[Bearcat]

I think that's a great idea. But I'd go with evenly match opponents (as close as is possible anyway) so that the plane set would stay somewhat close in available numbers of A/C. Sign me up for that.

 

 

Yes I agree.. I hope that they do it like they did with the La & the 190.. even though for now we got the La 1st..

[Feathered_IV]

I'd not want the sim to become too much of a slave to online "balance". A richer experience would be preferable to maintaining a deadlock with red vs blue. Bundling one character aircraft with the latest uber type would be acceptable. Ju-52 and La-7 for example.

[4H_V-man]

How about an FW 189 or Bv 141? Hs 129 would be fun.

 

I'd love to see an early war scenario. Maybe Battle of the Lowlands? We'd already have part of the German planes needed. I would think that the map from RoF could be used as a starting point, just expand it to include more territory. It would be nice to see a few of the French aircraft in a sim. Bloch or Dewotine would be fun to take into the virtual skies.

[LukeFF]

How about an FW 189 or Bv 141? 

 

The Bv 141 would be utterly pointless except for "what if" scenarios.

[Finkeren]

Releasing matching pairs was a great way to really get RoF off the ground after the launch in 2009.

[DrDag]

I would not mind a Mosquito and JU88 ... were there Mosquitos on the eastern front? I have read about Spitfires in the east in Gunther Ralls log book.

[Finkeren]

I would not mind a Mosquito and JU88 ... were there Mosquitos on the eastern front? I have read about Spitfires in the east in Gunther Ralls log book.

 

Spitfires, aye. Mosquitos, I don't think so. Wouldn't make much sense either, as the VVS had the quite capable Pe-2 readily available in large numbers, while they desperately needed a fighter to match the performance of the Bf 109G in late 1942. 

 

If we're gonna talk lend-lease planes, it makes a lot more sense to focus on the P-39 and P-40, since they were far more prominent and generally performed better than the British planes in Soviet hands. I don't see the need to include British planes just for the sake of including British planes.

 

The Ju 88 is a must though, and will no doubt come at some point.

Edited May 22, 2014 by Finkeren

[216th_Peterla]

I hope my decent suport will help you , coudnt buy premium ,but in future i will buy all planes on game market

 

Same in my case. Ill be buying everything that comes out whatever it is. For my this game is more than I expected, enjoyable, playable and suits all I want in a fly sim(the kind of fly sim I like). 

Big support to the team and hopping that will be a great and good shelling product.

[sallee]

Spitfires, aye. Mosquitos, I don't think so. Wouldn't make much sense either, as the VVS had the quite capable Pe-2 readily available in large numbers, while they desperately needed a fighter to match the performance of the Bf 109G in late 1942. 

 

If we're gonna talk lend-lease planes, it makes a lot more sense to focus on the P-39 and P-40, since they were far more prominent and generally performed better than the British planes in Soviet hands. I don't see the need to include British planes just for the sake of including British planes.

 

The Ju 88 is a must though, and will no doubt come at some point.

I'm English and I'd still rather see P-39 or P-40 than Spits and Hurricanes.

[Chuck_Owl]

I'm English and I'd still rather see P-39 or P-40 than Spits and Hurricanes.

 

I'm a british aviation fan... and I must admit that I'd rather have a P-39 and/or P-40. They're both great planes and I kind of miss them in a way. I haven't flown them much since 1946. :D

[VikingFjord]

As soon as i heard that 777 was making this game i had to buy it!
i bought the Rise of flight on steam with all the pack you could get to it
777 Studio is the best there is when it come to Fighting sim
and im sure this game will be as supported as Rise of flight has been
im still waiting for those new planes for rise of flight to come out in a steam pack *lol*
i bought this game in premium and i will buy every plane and content for it aswell becuse i just appreciate the fine work 777 is doing
so thank you very very much 777!

[PantsPilot]

777 & 1C combined are the future of combat flight simming and yes I'll buy everything they release! Just can't get enough of this game and it's only 50% done. Love the upgrades to the planes, just imagine the armament possibilities on the Hurricane 11 for example; 12x.303's/4x20mm cannon/VVS modification of 2x20mm cannon and 2x12.7mm mg's, not to mention bomb/rocket combo's, how cool would that be? Really hope they do some more eastern front maps and then expand to other theatres too, the possibilities are endless but I'd like to see some "forgotten battles" done like Malta, Burma and Finland. I'd be more excited by that than the more usual suspects. 

[Feathered_IV]

Really hope they do some more eastern front maps and then expand to other theatres too, the possibilities are endless but I'd like to see some "forgotten battles" done like Malta, Burma and Finland. I'd be more excited by that than the more usual suspects. 

 

Me too. 

[Wind]

Releasing matching pairs was a great way to really get RoF off the ground after the launch in 2009.

 

The real world math might come and saboutage this idea a bit, sadly.

I mean, if it takes about 1 month (?,3000€?) of full time job for a designer to do a working WWII plane, add some extra € for all the testing & whatnot,

and throw a extra plane on top of that (double the cost) things start to add up.

That way a flying pair of planes might cost some 10-15k in dev cost (just a retarded guess) so the devs might calculate quite pedantly what they

release.

My estimates are totally winged but us players have too often the "gimmegimme" mindset and we forget what it actually costs

to do stuff in the real world and thus our expectations might be overtly optimistic...and we get let down.

[Matt]

Releasing matching pairs was a great way to really get RoF off the ground after the launch in 2009.

That was some time ago, but i can't remember any pair that got released for RoF.

 

In any case, if that actually happened, that was probably not sucessful. Otherwise they would've made use of that more often. Especially because they keep saying, that they will not use the RoF system and that doesn't sound like they will just sell pairs instead of single planes.

 

I think a bigger pack, probably combined with a new map, is more likely. And that might be more effective.

[smink1701]

777 & 1C combined are the future of combat flight simming and yes I'll buy everything they release! Just can't get enough of this game and it's only 50% done. Love the upgrades to the planes, just imagine the armament possibilities on the Hurricane 11 for example; 12x.303's/4x20mm cannon/VVS modification of 2x20mm cannon and 2x12.7mm mg's, not to mention bomb/rocket combo's, how cool would that be? Really hope they do some more eastern front maps and then expand to other theatres too, the possibilities are endless but I'd like to see some "forgotten battles" done like Malta, Burma and Finland. I'd be more excited by that than the more usual suspects. 

Interesting point but I don't see a whole lot of 1C DNA here.  Feels like all 777 to  me.