jollyjack Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Destroyer- please add a German version too, it's weid to have one with a Russian flag and a red star on it's bow ... 1 2
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 AFAIK there were no German destroyers in the Black Sea, so it's not really that strange. If anything, additional Romanian naval units would be more appropriate. 1
ww2fighter20 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) We might get some additional german ships with the Normandy release, maybe an torpedoboat (which is similar in size to an destroyer) since they where used during the Normandy operation. Edited October 30, 2020 by ww2fighter20
Enceladus828 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Could have this ship, the NMS Amiral Murgescu. Was also in IL-2 1946. 1
Yogiflight Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ww2fighter20 said: We might get some additional german ships with the Normandy release, maybe an torpedoboat (which is similar in size to an destroyer) since they where used during the Normandy operation. With BOK there was a german S-Boat added as well. And it is 120m (Destroyer) versus 35m (S-Boat), so not even near the same size. Edited October 30, 2020 by Yogiflight
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Yogiflight said: With BOK there was a german S-Boat added as well. And it is 120m (Destroyer) versus 35m (S-Boat), so not even near the same size. The much larger vessels of the 'Wolf', 'Möwe' and 'T 22' classes were present during the Normandy operations. Edited October 30, 2020 by Mitthrawnuruodo
ww2fighter20 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Yogiflight said: With BOK there was a german S-Boat added as well. And it is 120m (Destroyer) versus 35m (S-Boat), so not even near the same size. The Type 23 87m, Type 24 93m and Type 39 102m (All considered torpedo boats) where active during the Normandy campaign on the map, they where armed from 3 to 4 10.5 cm cannons. It can be confusing though since the S-Boats are often also seen an torpedo boats. Edited October 30, 2020 by ww2fighter20
Yogiflight Posted October 31, 2020 Posted October 31, 2020 12 hours ago, ww2fighter20 said: The Type 23 87m, Type 24 93m and Type 39 102m (All considered torpedo boats) where active during the Normandy campaign on the map, they where armed from 3 to 4 10.5 cm cannons. Yes, I see. Those ships were in fact small destroyers or escort destroyers, named as torpedo boats, because of the Versailles Treaty, which allowed Germany the building of 12 torpedo boats. I don't know, how actice they were during Normandy, but, yes, they might be an interesting adding. At least, it seems the British were pretty in fear of them, when preparing the landing and tried to destroy them before the landing started. 12 hours ago, ww2fighter20 said: It can be confusing though since the S-Boats are often also seen an torpedo boats. It is not the S-Boats, that are confusing, as those are the real torpedo boats of the Wehrmacht. 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 31, 2020 1CGS Posted October 31, 2020 7 hours ago, Yogiflight said: I don't know, how actice they were during Normandy, but, yes, they might be an interesting adding. At least, it seems the British were pretty in fear of them, when preparing the landing and tried to destroy them before the landing started. There was the Battle of Ushant on June 9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ushant_(1944) 1
jollyjack Posted October 31, 2020 Author Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) With Normandy one at least would expect the (wreck of) the Bismarck ... And we need a cat too then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam Edited October 31, 2020 by jollyjack 2
Juri_JS Posted November 1, 2020 Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) Appart from the topedo boats already mentioned, German ship types that were active in the area of the Normandy map are: Artilleriefährprähme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinefährprahm M-boats (Minensuchboote) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-class_minesweeper_(Germany) R-boats (Räumboote) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_boat S-boats (Schnellboote) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-boat Vorpostenboote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorpostenboot Especially Artilleriefährprähme and R-boats would also be useful for the Kuban map. Edited November 1, 2020 by Juri_JS 1 1
vonGraf Posted November 2, 2020 Posted November 2, 2020 Didn't the Germans sent S-boats and U-boats (?) partly by train to the Black Sea? IIRC I read in the book 'Schnellboote vor!' about that. Long ago.
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