The IL2 being a little too hard to break since last patch?

[SR-F_Winger]

might be subjective. Whenever i attack an IL2 it takes tons of ammo to break it. I know its supposed to be kind of a flying tank and hard to down but this seems a little overklill. I am not the best aimer but also not the worst. And it took me whole ammo loads from wich actually at least half of the ammo landed somewhere inside the IL and it still flew. Downing a PE2 is much easier imho.

On the other hand the other day i saw a YAK attack 2 JU87s and they both broke apart in one single attackrun from the rear. And it did not take many shots at all from my observation.

So again, dont get me wrong. This is not a "Nerf this, or boost this" call. Just my subjective impression on the matter.

 

Other opinions?

Edited May 19, 2014 by VSG1_Winger

[Finkeren]

Wow they changed that?

 

Will have to check that out, when I get home. I think it would be a rather welcome change. I've always found, that it was too easy to damage the IL2s engine, and in general I think wings and control surfaces come off a bit too readily (which is how I kill a majority of my Ilyushins)

 

Also, you just might have gotten unlucky a few times, I have sometimes emptied my entire ammo supply into Ju 87s without finishing them off, while at other times they break apart after just a chance pot-shot. Not that I'm complaining about that. I like the "random" feeling of never knowing exactly if you're gonna get that kill (of course the DM isn't random at all, but also it isn't predicatble, like it often was in the old IL2)

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 It should not be any harder to bring down if shot on wings/wing roots or tail structure than any other plane. It was only the armored bulkhead behind pilot/gunner that was thick enough to stop quite large projectiles. The engine compartment and cockpit could be penetrated with .50cal and larger easily, 20mm would shred through the armor without breaking sweat. The cooler beneath the plane could not withstand shots either and would turn the plane into a bad glider very fast if shot to pieces. The myth of indestructible IL-2 is just that, a myth overblown to epic proportions. Just look at the armor distribution charts, weapon penetration values and do the math.

[Zak]

Subjective indeed

[SR-F_Winger]

So maybe an official word on the issue? Has there maybe been an unintentinal change (bug) like with the decreased rollrate of the LAGG-3 witht he latest patch?

Or is everything as it (at least for now) is meant to be?

 

EDIT: Thanks on the Feedback ZAK!

I was not sure about that.

Edited May 19, 2014 by VSG1_Winger

[ShamrockOneFive]

Two bits of interesting info in here. So the IL-2 has finally been toughened up a bit? I thought it was a bit on the weak side... while the Ju87 was fairly sturdy it wasn't known as being difficult to shoot down. The IL-2 on the other hand had a solid reputation of being difficult to bring down.

 

I did some subjective testing and while they do take a beating they ultimately still go down in a single pass by a Bf109 with just the MG151/20 hub cannon (no wing guns). They don't appear to be overdone from my admittedly subjective test.

 

Also the LaGG-3 roll rate has been slowed down? Good. It was rolling quite quickly before. The Yak had a reputation for a good roll rate and the LaGG-3 felt nearly the same in past patches.

[Zak]

So maybe an official word on the issue? Has there maybe been an unintentinal change (bug) like with the decreased rollrate of the LAGG-3 witht he latest patch?

Or is everything as it (at least for now) is meant to be?

There was actually something wrong with LaGG but there were no planned  fixes in IL-2 damage model

[=BKHZ=Furbs]

Oh the joys of combat sim development, eh Zak. lol

[SR-F_Winger]

There was actually something wrong with LaGG but there were no planned  fixes in IL-2 damage model

Thanks. I guess i must have just not hit as much as i thought when i got that impression then:)