Typhoon in Battle of normandy ?

[DoubleQ]

Hi developpers,

 

I have seen that the Typhoon is not part of Battle of Normandy and I am a bit disapointed about that. Indeed this plane was a major fighter bomber in the real Normandy campaign.

 

So to developpers I can only suggest to add it  in the future (as collector airplane ?).

 

Good flights to all ?

[Monksilver]

30 minutes ago, DoubleQ said:

Hi developpers,

 

I have seen that the Typhoon is not part of Battle of Normandy and I am a bit disapointed about that. Indeed this plane was a major fighter bomber in the real Normandy campaign.

 

So to developpers I can only suggest to add it  in the future (as collector airplane ?).

 

Good flights to all ?

Good news, the Typhoon Mk1b is there and not as a collector plane either - see the below

 

[Reggie_Mental]

Isn't the Typhoon just a Tempest with a tail that falls off in a dive??

 

Every Typhoon was immediately grounded after the German surrender. 

[Chief_Mouser]

11 minutes ago, Reggie_Mental said:

Isn't the Typhoon just a Tempest with a tail that falls off in a dive??

 

Every Typhoon was immediately grounded after the German surrender. 

 

Absolutely not. The Tempest came from the Typhoon and not the other way round, and the tail problems were identified and fixed during 1943 so you won't have to worry with the one we are getting.

Neither were they grounded. After D-Day the squadrons began re-equipping with other aircraft, but the last unit to fly Typhoons was disbanded on 30th September 1945.

[DoubleQ]

Shame on me ?

Great !!!

Thank you Monk_Silver !

 

To reply to Reggie_Mental: Yes you are right. Typhoon were reinforced at the fuselage tail section because of the problem you mentionned. Thank you to my post contribution. 

[Hirachi]

the Typhoon pilots all going be wearing oxygen mask due to carbon monoxide issue  "The first problem encountered with the Typhoon after its entry into service was the seepage of carbon monoxide fumes into the cockpit. In an attempt to alleviate this, longer exhaust stubs were fitted in November 1941 ("Mod [modification] 239"), and at about the same time the port (left) cockpit doors were sealed. The Pilot's Notes for the Typhoon recommended that "Unless Mod. No. 239 has been embodied it is most important that oxygen be used at all times as a precaution against carbon monoxide poisoning.  "Despite the modifications, the problem was never entirely solved, and the standard procedure throughout the war was for Typhoon pilots to use oxygen from engine start-up to engine shut down. In addition to carbon monoxide seepage, pilots were experiencing unpleasantly high cockpit temperatures; eventually a ventilation tube helped alleviate, but did not solve the problem. In addition two small, rear opening vents were added below the port side radio hatch, just below the canopy."

[Gambit21]

12 hours ago, DoubleQ said:

Shame on me ?

Great !!!

Thank you Monk_Silver !

 

It’s like Christmas and your birthday all rolled into one now isn’t it?

[ShamrockOneFive]

14 hours ago, 336th_Hirachi said:

the Typhoon pilots all going be wearing oxygen mask due to carbon monoxide issue  "The first problem encountered with the Typhoon after its entry into service was the seepage of carbon monoxide fumes into the cockpit. In an attempt to alleviate this, longer exhaust stubs were fitted in November 1941 ("Mod [modification] 239"), and at about the same time the port (left) cockpit doors were sealed. The Pilot's Notes for the Typhoon recommended that "Unless Mod. No. 239 has been embodied it is most important that oxygen be used at all times as a precaution against carbon monoxide poisoning.  "Despite the modifications, the problem was never entirely solved, and the standard procedure throughout the war was for Typhoon pilots to use oxygen from engine start-up to engine shut down. In addition to carbon monoxide seepage, pilots were experiencing unpleasantly high cockpit temperatures; eventually a ventilation tube helped alleviate, but did not solve the problem. In addition two small, rear opening vents were added below the port side radio hatch, just below the canopy."

 

It was an issue on the Tempest as well. I don't think they have programmed that specific piece in.

23 hours ago, DoubleQ said:

Shame on me ?

Great !!!

Thank you Monk_Silver !

 

To reply to Reggie_Mental: Yes you are right. Typhoon were reinforced at the fuselage tail section because of the problem you mentionned. Thank you to my post contribution. 

 

You can see that the 3D model is well underway here as well:

 

[Avimimus]

On 10/3/2020 at 7:43 AM, Reggie_Mental said:

Isn't the Typhoon just a Tempest with a tail that falls off in a dive??

 

Completely different wing design (much thicker), different cannons, ability to carry eight RP-3 rockets... it should handle very differently and be used very differently.

 

It is also slightly lower in performance - which allows fairer fights against mid-war enemies (always a plus!)

[Fritz_X]

11 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

Completely different wing design (much thicker), different cannons, ability to carry eight RP-3 rockets... it should handle very differently and be used very differently.

 

All very true.

 

Could somebody please enlighten me about the ammo count per gun, though? I tried to look it up already, only to find multiple sources that gave different results.

 

What they all had in common though is that there will be (far) less ammo compared to the Tempest.

Edited October 4, 2020 by Fritz_X

[ShamrockOneFive]

56 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

 

All very true.

 

Could somebody please enlighten me about the ammo count per gun, though? I tried to look it up already, only to find multiple sources that gave different results.

 

What they all had in common though is that there will be (far) less ammo compared to the Tempest.

 

Tough to find a primary source but I believe the count is 140 rpg. Not far off the 150 rpg in the Tempest although supposedly the max was 200 rpg.

[Fritz_X]

1 minute ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

Tough to find a primary source but I believe the count is 140 rpg. Not far off the 150 rpg in the Tempest although supposedly the max was 200 rpg.

 

That would be pretty satisfying to me. I was actually worried that it would be much less, since the lowest count of the sources I found was only but 90.

 

Hope that your source is right ?

[BMA_FlyingShark]

On 10/3/2020 at 1:43 PM, Reggie_Mental said:

Isn't the Typhoon just a Tempest with a tail that falls off in a dive?

The Typhoon is actually a more mean looking version of the Tempest with those long pins sticking out of the wings.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

2 hours ago, Fritz_X said:

 

That would be pretty satisfying to me. I was actually worried that it would be much less, since the lowest count of the sources I found was only but 90.

 

Hope that your source is right ?

 

I've got a second source also stating 140 rpg and this one is relatively close to primary as its from BAE Systems which now own the IP from Hawker.

 

https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/hawker-typhoon

[Fritz_X]

16 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

I've got a second source also stating 140 rpg and this one is relatively close to primary as its from BAE Systems which now own the IP from Hawker.

 

https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/hawker-typhoon

 

Thank you for the link!

 

Just 40 rounds less than our Tempest sounds good to me. The slower fire rate of the older Hispano cannons should easily compensate this (taking my bad marksmanship into account, that is).

[ShamrockOneFive]

6 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

 

Thank you for the link!

 

Just 40 rounds less than our Tempest sounds good to me. The slower fire rate of the older Hispano cannons should easily compensate this (taking my bad marksmanship into account, that is).

 

By the IL-2 manuals the Tempest we have has 150 rpg so only 10 less. With the slower fire rate of the Hispano Mark II that's actually a longer fire time.

 

Either way, it's enough for the Typhoon to be a capable attacker with the potential to put heavy firepower on a good number of targets.

[Fritz_X]

38 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

By the IL-2 manuals the Tempest we have has 150 rpg so only 10 less. With the slower fire rate of the Hispano Mark II that's actually a longer fire time.

 

Sorry for causing a little confusion there, the '40 rounds less' came from me taking all four guns into account.

 

Anyway, thank you for your help and sources. Hopefully the devs are gonna use similar numbers when delivering the Tiffie.

 

Edited October 4, 2020 by Fritz_X

[EAF19_Marsh]

See Desmond Scott (RAF’s youngest Group Captain and also 123 Typhoon Wing Commander) for details on cockpit issues. He is quite Volkel (pun!) on the subject. 

[PatrickAWlson]

7 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

It was an issue on the Tempest as well. I don't think they have programmed that specific piece in.

 

 

Gradual blackout as you fly the plane  

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

2 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

Gradual blackout as you fly the plane  

 

Maybe adapt the feature from TC?

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25. Crew members can be gradually poisoned with CO gas when firing the main gun with the hatches of the fighting compartment closed and ventilation turned off or damaged.

 

[PatrickAWlson]

42 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

 

Maybe adapt the feature from TC?

 

 

I was joking, but hey, if it's already modeled ...

[senseispcc]

he Typhoon is the next plane from this constructor or builder (Hawker) after the Hurricane and the Tempest the next step in the evolution in the aviation history. 

Yes, there were other prototypes, but how never reached their full potentials.

Second remark, the Typhoon only lost their tails units because of a engineering problem how could have been resolved but at the cost of a complete redesign of the tail section of the plane and so a delay in production.

The Normady module is a great addition to the game. 

[EAF19_Marsh]

It’s a glorious beast of a thing, so it is!

[Lusekofte]

I am counting on Typhoon, Mosquito, ME 410 is going to give me the push I need to enjoy GB a long time. 

[Asgar]

On 10/5/2020 at 9:08 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I am counting on Typhoon, Mosquito, ME 410 is going to give me the push I need to enjoy GB a long time. 

Yep, especially 410 and Mossie for me. Those two will be fun!