Chuck Owl (of the famous guides) Tobruk review.

[Sokol1]

In Mudspike - the introduction is an insight of the war in the North Africa on the period (1940-42).

 

 

The first part is a historic summary of the real campaign, skip to Part 2 for the start of the game review.

 

Part 1: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-1-the-desert-war/

Part 2: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-2-i-dont-like-sand/

Part 3: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-3-the-aircraft/

Part 4: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-4-under-the-hood-final-thoughts/

 

 

[Chuck_Owl]

Part 1: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-1-the-desert-war/

Part 2: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-2-i-dont-like-sand/

Part 3: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-3-the-aircraft/

Part 4: https://www.mudspike.com/il-2-desert-wings-tobruk-part-4-under-the-hood-final-thoughts/

[ITAF_Airone1989]

@Chuck_Owl thank you, I really appreciate your review... And also your "old" guide... 

[Mender444]

Awesome writing Chuck, had so much fun reading it.

A few years late maybe, but let me thank you for the outstanding guides you wrote. I read all of them regarding warbirds.

[jollyjack]

Chuck, your writings surely inspired me to spend more time with Tobruk. Now to find the time LoL ... Thanks for posting !

[343KKT_Kintaro]

Nonsense... I edit my message as part four was published yesterday and I didn't even notice that the author was posting here: THANK YOU CHUCK!

 

Edited September 20, 2020 by 343KKT_Kintaro

[ATAG_Pattle]

Thanks Chuck.

Been eagerly waiting for Part 4.

Very comprehensive and balanced. 

Just posted the link to Part 1 on our FB, Youtube, Twitter and Instagram pages.

Cheers,

Pattle

[Art-J]

I'm fairly sure all Tomahawks featured a mixed armament of .50s in the fuselage and .30s in the wings rather than six .50s as the part 3 suggests (that applied to Kittyhawks), unless Brits field-modded theirs? Other than that, a very nice write-up, as usual.

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

Kittyhawk I onwards had the 6 .50 cal AFAIK. 
 

After a very quick search (sorry, it‘s in German)

http://www.bredow-web.de/RAF_Museum/Curtiss_P-40_Kittyhawk_III/curtiss_p-40_kittyhawk_iii.html

 

Edit:

Sorry, kind of forgot to comment on the thread’s topic. 

I had read parts 1 and 2 when they were released, following up with #3 and was eagerly awaiting the final part. Read it this morning. Thanks for that, great overview.
It is exactly the way I see it. Once you look (or see) past the initial „old game“ impression it is very good and a still very capable engine. Unfortunately many stop at that first impression and don‘t get to know what the game is really capable of.

Edited September 20, 2020 by 9./JG52_J-HAT

[343KKT_Kintaro]

59 minutes ago, ATAG_Pattle said:

Thanks Chuck.

Been eagerly waiting for Part 4.

Very comprehensive and balanced. 

Just posted the link to Part 1 on our FB, Youtube, Twitter and Instagram pages.

Cheers,

Pattle

 

 

 

Hey, Pattle, going back to part 3... let's quote a few lines that are in connection with the Gloster Gladiator:

 

"the South African pilot Marmaduke “Pat” Pattle was the top Gladiator ace with 15 victories with the type"

 

Is the above the reason you call yourself "Pattle"???

 

 

[ITAF_Airone1989]

8 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

Is the above the reason you call yourself "Pattle"???

 

 

I thought the same while I was reading ?

[major_setback]

Thanks very much for taking the time to do such a comprehensive review.

I think you covered just about any question anyone might have.

Cheers

major_setback

TFS

Edited September 20, 2020 by major_setback

[jollyjack]

2 hours ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

Hey, Pattle, going back to part 3... let's quote a few lines that are in connection with the Gloster Gladiator:

 

"the South African pilot Marmaduke “Pat” Pattle was the top Gladiator ace with 15 victories with the type"

 

Is the above the reason you call yourself "Pattle"???

 

 

Nope, he's top Gladiator at the TeamFusion Battle ... with probably over a 1000 victories !

[OBT-Mikmak]

Very interesting and detailed review ?

Thanks Chuck !

Edited September 20, 2020 by OBT-Mikmak

[ATAG_Flare]

On 9/20/2020 at 6:27 AM, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

 

Hey, Pattle, going back to part 3... let's quote a few lines that are in connection with the Gloster Gladiator:

 

"the South African pilot Marmaduke “Pat” Pattle was the top Gladiator ace with 15 victories with the type"

 

Is the above the reason you call yourself "Pattle"???

 

 

 

It is. https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23439&p=243683&viewfull=1#post243683

[343KKT_Kintaro]

15 minutes ago, ATAG_Flare said:

It is. https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23439&p=243683&viewfull=1#post243683

 

 

Nice, thank you Flare!

[=RS=Stix_09]

On 9/20/2020 at 9:33 PM, Art-J said:

I'm fairly sure all Tomahawks featured a mixed armament of .50s in the fuselage and .30s in the wings rather than six .50s as the part 3 suggests (that applied to Kittyhawks), unless Brits field-modded theirs? Other than that, a very nice write-up, as usual.

 

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The British Commonwealth and Soviet air forces used the name Tomahawk for models equivalent to the original P-40, P-40B, and P-40C, while the name Kittyhawk for models equivalent to the P-40D and all later variants.

 

 

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Revised versions of the P-40 soon followed: the P-40B or Tomahawk IIA had extra .30 in (7.62 mm) U.S., or .303 in (7.7 mm) machine guns in the wings and a partially protected fuel system; the P-40C or Tomahawk IIB added underbelly drop tank and bomb shackles, self-sealing fuel tanks and other minor revisions, but the extra weight did have a negative impact on aircraft performance. (All versions of the P-40 had a relatively low power-to-weight ratio compared to contemporary fighters.)

 

 

Yes mistake in the review: It is 2x50(nose) and 4x.303(wings) on the Tomahawk IIB/A

 

In game we have the Tomahawk IIA (which has the correct guns in game, (P-40B/C) and Kittyhawk Mk Ia (also has correct guns for this model p-40E in game 6x.50 M2's in wings)

Dif is drop tank option on the Tomahawk IIB (P-40C vs  P-40B or Tomahawk IIA)

 

List of modelled aircraft in IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover - Wikipedia

 

 

Edited December 10, 2020 by =RS=Stix_09
added pics of in game plane loadouts

[Sheriff88]

Does the 109 E  still shake and yaw excessively when firing guns? 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Sheriff88