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Any plans to allow continuity for III./JG 54 to IV./JG 26 as it was the case in reality?

III./JG 54 was renamed IV./JG 26 on 25/02/1945 and existed until end of war. Those were the guys flying Fw 190 Doras from Hopsten, Achmer, screening the Jets etc.

 

On 25.2.45 redesignated IV./JG26:

Stab III./JG54 became Stab IV./JG26
9./JG54 became 13./JG26
10./JG54 became 14./JG26
11./JG54 became 15./JG26
12./JG54 became 16./JG26

 

IV. Gruppe:

Gruppenkommandeur:

  • Maj Rudolf Klemm, 25.2.45 - 17.4.45

Formed 25.2.45 in Varrelbusch from III./JG54 with:

Stab IV./JG26 from Stab III./JG54
13./JG26 from 10./JG54
14./JG26 from 11./JG54
15./JG26 from 9./JG54

IV./JG26 was disbanded on 17.4.45.

 

7.6.44 - 5.9.44 Villacoublay   Fw 190A
5.9.44 - 11.44 Oldenburg****   Fw 190A/D
11.44 - 29.12.44 Varrelbusch   Fw 190D
29.12.44 - 5.1.45 Handrup/Fürstenau   Fw 190D
5.1.45 - 25.2.45 Varrelbusch   Fw 190D

 

  • 25.2.45 - 24.3.45 Varrelbusch   Fw 190D
    24.3.45 - 3.4.45 Bissel   Fw 190D
    3.4.45 - 5.4.45 Varrelbusch   Fw 190D
    5.4.45 - 10.4.45 Dedelsdorf   Fw 190D
    10.4.45 - 17.4.45 Kleinkummersfelde
    (near Neumünster)
      Fw 190D

 

III./JG 54 which we have at present in the game career at Babenhausen past 02/1945 is the "new" III./JG 54 which was:

 

Reformed 27.2.45 in Grossenhain from II./ZG76 with:

Stab III./JG54 from Stab II./ZG76
9./JG54 from 4./ZG76
10./JG54 from 5./ZG76
11./JG54 from 6./ZG76

and was flying with Me 109s:

 

5.1.45 - 25.2.45 Varrelbusch   Fw 190D
27.2.45 - 5.4.45 Grossenhain   Bf 109G

 

Also see here: https://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg54.htm and here: https://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg26.htm

Edited by sevenless
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3 hours ago, sevenless said:

III./JG 54 which we have at present in the game career at Babenhausen past 02/1945 is the "new" III./JG 54 which was:

 

No, it's the original III./JG 54. What you're seeing is the Kommando Babenhausen detachment, a staffel-size unit headed by Hans Dortenmann that was sent to the Rhein-Main area to counter Allied fighter-bombers. 

 

As for IV./JG 26, it wasn't based on any of the airfields we have on the Rhineland map.

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10 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

No, it's the original III./JG 54. What you're seeing is the Kommando Babenhausen detachment, a staffel-size unit headed by Hans Dortenmann that was sent to the Rhein-Main area to counter Allied fighter-bombers. 

 

As for IV./JG 26, it wasn't based on any of the airfields we have on the Rhineland map.

 

I see. You mean the 10 days from 11-21/02/1945 when Dortenmann was flying from Babenhausen with his mixed Kdo from 9.11. and 12. sqn pilots the last sorties for III./JG 54 and you decided as a design decision to let him finish his war there.

And you decided to leave out IV./JG 26 because they were based at Varrelbusch (from 11/44 as III./JG 54 and after renaming 02/45 as IV./JG 26) and Bissel (from 03/45) which is 25km (Bissel 40km) north of Quakenbrueck, because both are 10-30km out of map area although they were constantly flying over the Wesel/Rees/Arnhem area and additionally flying cover for the Arados and Me 262s in Achmer during the timeframe 25/02/1945 - 06/04/45? Alright. Thanks for clearing that miracle up for me. I was scratching my head why that unit was left out of the career.

Out of curiosity. Do you also dissolve III./JG 26 at 25th February? Because after that date they were disbanded.

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4 hours ago, sevenless said:

Out of curiosity. Do you also dissolve III./JG 26 at 25th February? Because after that date they were disbanded.

 

Not, they are around until the 14th of March. That's when they disbanded. Before that, they are/were off operations from the 15th of January to the 27th of February, as they were converting to the Fw 190 D-9 during that time.

 

As for the other items with III./JG 54 - that wasn't my decision to make.

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1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

As for the other items with III./JG 54 - that wasn't my decision to make.

 

6 hours ago, sevenless said:

And you decided to leave out IV./JG 26 because they were based at Varrelbusch (from 11/44 as III./JG 54 and after renaming 02/45 as IV./JG 26) and Bissel (from 03/45) which is 25km (Bissel 40km) north of Quakenbrueck, because both are 10-30km out of map area although they were constantly flying over the Wesel/Rees/Arnhem area and additionally flying cover for the Arados and Me 262s in Achmer during the timeframe 25/02/1945 - 06/04/45? Alright. Thanks for clearing that miracle up for me. I was scratching my head why that unit was left out of the career.

I decide which units will be present in the career. When we run out of units or they are based off the map, like the Luftwaffe  bomber Gruppen in the Battle of Moscow, we can place them on non-historical airfields within the map.

In this case, we have more than enough LW units and there is no need to show those that are based outside our map. I see no reason to make compromises on historical issues when not required.
Also, adding each unit costs money because we need to draw the emblem, write its history and re-translate it into other languages. Our budget is not unlimited.

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