Guns jamming or being damaged/destroyed

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

I have seen it happen.... twice I think since I first purchased BOS a while ago.

 

Your IL2 is a swiss cheese, especially the left wing, but you can be sure both the MG and the cannon will work fine.

 

You ate a 37mm shell from a Yak 9T right in your engine Mr 190? Its leaking oil and badly damaged? Dont worry because at lease those 2x MG 131's are like bran new!

 

I have seen my canopy being torn apart with my pilot being just fine more often than gun related issues after taking significant damage exactly where the gun is fixed.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[BCI-Nazgul]

I've seen this happen once in two years.    Don't think it works right.   Other things that have not been damaged...landing gear, gun sight, nav lights.  In the old IL2 1946 it was quite possible to get your gun sight smashed which is actually a pretty big problem.   Also, considering the size and importance of landing gear you'd think it would be damaged pretty often, but it appears to be mostly invincible in this game.

Edited September 10, 2020 by BCI-Nazgul

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

In Il2 1946 guns were jamming all the times in fact.

 

About landing gears, I see them being damaged often nowadays actually. Yesterday I saw a 109 try to land after losing its 2 wheels. 

 

You are correct about gunsights never being damaged either. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[BCI-Nazgul]

Maybe the German planes are more vulnerable to landing gear damage.  I fly Allied mostly.  Never had my gear wrecked.   Yes, in the old IL2 gun damage was pretty common.  That actually makes sense given the amount of space weapons take up on fighter plane.

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

52 minutes ago, BCI-Nazgul said:

Maybe the German planes are more vulnerable to landing gear damage.  I fly Allied mostly.  Never had my gear wrecked.   Yes, in the old IL2 gun damage was pretty common.  That actually makes sense given the amount of space weapons take up on fighter plane.

 

It happens often on the 109, but I've seen it on almost every fighter and not only once or twice. Not necessarily the gear itself but the thingy that shuts after the gears are retracted to prevent drag effect. These get torn and fall very often.

Edited September 10, 2020 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

You are correct about gunsights never being damaged either. 

 

Gunsights are definitely prone to being damaged. I've seen it flying the M42 Il-2.

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

Gunsights are definitely prone to being damaged. I've seen it flying the M42 Il-2.

 

Never seen it once in great battles myself but it was kind of common in IL2 1946. But this topic aint about gunsights though, lets stick to the topic shall we?

 

What do you think about the frequency at which your guns will stop functionning because of damage to the plane? Do you agree that it should happen more often, realistically?

[Cpt_Siddy]

In real life, a proper Negative G move could tangle up the belts. 

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

1 hour ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

In real life, a proper Negative G move could tangle up the belts. 

 

Even weather, I dont remember the models exactly but some german planes struggled with the extreme winter cold of the eastern front and that included guns.

[BCI-Nazgul]

In real life many (if not all) planes could jam their guns by firing too long of bursts.   I think some models of guns were extra sensitive to this problem, but I don't remember which ones.   It would probably be guns that are built with extra light barrels to reduce weight.

Edited September 11, 2020 by BCI-Nazgul

[vonGraf]

The sight of the IL-2 even got damaged too easy, so the devs had to change that behaviour. If I did undestand one of the last changelogs right.

[LukeFF]

23 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

What do you think about the frequency at which your guns will stop functionning because of damage to the plane? Do you agree that it should happen more often, realistically?

 

My feeling on this is that, if your plane is at the point where the machine guns and/or cannons no longer work because they have been damaged by enemy fire, you have much bigger things to worry about than the weapons not working.

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

16 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

My feeling on this is that, if your plane is at the point where the machine guns and/or cannons no longer work because they have been damaged by enemy fire, you have much bigger things to worry about than the weapons not working.

 

Nice way to avoid the question. Its just silly seriously and you know it.

 

The Il2 was meant to absorb huge punishment and still go. It was mean to keep pounding the ground troops despite taking extensive damage. However, if the guns are damaged, its no longer a threat. 

 

The guns are almost immuned to damage right now and its NOT ok. 

 

But your take on it is 'at some point the game doesnt need to be realistic anymore because you're most probably fucked anyway'.

 

Ok man. I was expecting better though.

 

[DD_Arthur]

Yawn........