Il-2 Team, thanks for the polls

[LuftManu]

The way visibility and G-modelling issues is being dealt with by the devs has a huge thumbs up from me and my Squadron. Thank you guys for letting us vote and trying to explain the posibilities. This plus the every-year advance with the sim and core features has shown the potenial and dedication the team has with the project.

 

Big thanks!

 

Kind regards,
Manu

[[DBS]Browning]

I welcome the polls as a way of finding out what the forum's opinions are. Very often the loudest voices come from a minority. Polls are a good way to ensure that the quieter opinions are heard. 

 

However, I don't want IL2 to become a game designed by polls. There are many areas where I am sure the team is more qualified to make decisions than we are and the team should be free to follow their own vision. 

[Beazil]

2 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

 There are many areas where I am sure the team is more qualified to make decisions than we are and the team should be free to follow their own vision. 

 I think we should have a poll on that...

[LuftManu]

17 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

I welcome the polls as a way of finding out what the forum's opinions are. Very often the loudest voices come from a minority. Polls are a good way to ensure that the quieter opinions are heard. 

 

However, I don't want IL2 to become a game designed by polls. There are many areas where I am sure the team is more qualified to make decisions than we are and the team should be free to follow their own vision. 

In cases like this, I think this was the correct approach. If not, data and accuracy should be the primary target, always. 

[Lusekofte]

I have stoped flying GB atm, I feel a bit outside targeted opinions. 
Somehow that poll terrified me. 

[SJ_Butcher]

15 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I have stoped flying GB atm, I feel a bit outside targeted opinions. 
Somehow that poll terrified me. 

 

The majority will speak, many of us don't play the game because it's unplayable, but if the majority start playing again and a few stop playing I am fine with that.

[Lusekofte]

36 minutes ago, SJ_Butcher said:

 

The majority will speak, many of us don't play the game because it's unplayable, but if the majority start playing again and a few stop playing I am fine with that.

Let me ask you . What do you fly? what do you hope to achieve? How is a perfect server action in your mind?  
Do you like meeting only fighters?

or do you want a target rich environment ? With all kind of planes. 
What if I tell you that the most effective plane in this brand also share sides with the only usable levelbomber. And The other side is only los level attackers. Not able to be there. 
I really think the solution they can do to accommodate your wish , in light of alt vis we already have. You will see only 109 dora Tempest and P 51. 
you wont loose a few. You loose In worst case The reason this brand was made for. And end up with a simplified DCS scenario

[[DBS]Browning]

It's worth bearing in mind that in any poll question where one answer is "I like things as they are", there will be a bias in favour of the status quo as some people who didn't like things as they are, no longer play or visit the forum. 

[SJ_Butcher]

1 hour ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Let me ask you . What do you fly? what do you hope to achieve? How is a perfect server action in your mind?  
Do you like meeting only fighters?

or do you want a target rich environment ? With all kind of planes. 
What if I tell you that the most effective plane in this brand also share sides with the only usable levelbomber. And The other side is only los level attackers. Not able to be there. 
I really think the solution they can do to accommodate your wish , in light of alt vis we already have. You will see only 109 dora Tempest and P 51. 
you wont loose a few. You loose In worst case The reason this brand was made for. And end up with a simplified DCS scenario

 

Bye bye then

[oc2209]

I'm pretty happy with the state of the game, currently (I can only speak for my single player experience).

 

Yes, spotting has some weak points, as does the AI. But I consider the former a not-insurmountable challenge; since, let's be honest: while certain aspects of a sim are more difficult than real life (mostly involving the ease of looking around and visual fidelity), a lot of other aspects are far less difficult. We don't have to physically wrestle with the stick (the 109 was notorious for fatiguing pilots with its heavy high-speed controls), we can hit a pause button, we don't have sweat stinging our eyes, we aren't truly blinded by sun glare, we don't really feel uncomfortable while pulling G's (and then jamming the nose down abruptly to make blood rush back into your brain--I'm sure that would feel just peachy in real life), we don't have an excessively hot or cold cockpit environment, and on, and on...

 

So for those reasons, I'm not really eager to make spotting easier. At least, not significantly easier.

 

And AI has some pretty glaring weaknesses, but overall I'm happy to beat it up and thereby inflate my virtual ego. If the AI was any more capable than it is, I'd actually be afraid of angry swarms of Russians instead of blithely wondering how many bullets per kill I can average that sortie.

 

The only thing I'd like to see is friendly AI that does two things: crashes less (or not at all) for no apparent reason; and cuts throttle to bob and weave when an enemy is on its tail. My wingmen die far, far too easily now, mostly because they fail to take proper (any) evasive action while being fired on.

 

The enemy AI is, for the most part, solid. On career hard mode, if I fly nearly straight and level for ~15-30 seconds in a fight (which happens often enough when chasing an enemy), there's a good chance I'll get pasted. While I've complained in the past about the AI's inability to hit me in deflection, I'm not keen on being a victim of it.

[Lusekofte]

8 hours ago, SJ_Butcher said:

 

Bye bye then

Do not take my answer as I care too much about your opinion. 
I simply , unlike you care for general gameplay. I like to see improvements on spotting, but the wording of the poll really gave reasons of concerns. Not answering you but people in general. 
I have so far been lucky enough not to meet your unpleasant you in person nor virtually. There for see no reason to great you a good bye

Edited September 1, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

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17 hours ago, [DBS]Browning said:

However, I don't want IL2 to become a game designed by polls. There are many areas where I am sure the team is more qualified to make decisions than we are and the team should be free to follow their own vision. 

Agree 100% with this, it worries me a bit to go down this path of the game being changed by polls.

[Lusekofte]

14 hours ago, [DBS]Browning said:

It's worth bearing in mind that in any poll question where one answer is "I like things as they are", there will be a bias in favour of the status quo as some people who didn't like things as they are, no longer play or visit the forum. 

absence

I agree on both your posts, my absence is due to too much flying in general and little time. No new feature added will change that, only the fact that I take a rest. I still like this to be as  good as it can be.

However I simply question the fact that a poll is needed, I might not agree on some statements, but I take it for granted that everybody want a more realistic rendering system and spotting, not overdone. MAking a poll about it, simply confuse me, are they asking if people want a unrealistic ability to spot?

I am really not sure about my own and others view on realistic spotting is correct

Edited September 1, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte