Bf110

[83_Gen_Jeroen]

Hello fellow Stalingrad pioneers,

 

Somehow I miss the Bf-110 in Stalingrad. Is it planned as a bonus/add-on or is it kept away from the game for some reason?

[BlackSix]

All available aircraft in the release are listed on the main page.
At a present situation we don't comment on the further development of the project in the future, sorry.

[senseispcc]

+1 and the FW 189

[Felix58]

The bf110 is my personal favourite, but sadly, not included in BOS.  Although my understanding is that they did support 6 Armee.

[LizLemon]

It'd make a great compliment to the pe-2

[willdashoff]

I really hope the BF-110 will make it to the game one day. An iconic Luftwaffe aircraft from the period. Please make it so, devs 

[Feathered_IV]

There's always clod i suppose for that 110 fix. I'd like to see something like the Hs-129 for the war in the east. Maybe the 189 as well if sufficient data exists. I've got the cash, all I need is the content.

[SR-F_Winger]

I really hope the BF-110 will make it to the game one day. An iconic Luftwaffe aircraft from the period. Please make it so, devs 

Best we can do is spread the word on how awesome this sim is so many people buy and it becomes a commercial success. if it does i am certain the 110 will be one of the planes that come first since it saw so much sservice during WWII.

 

Heck i wish there was a possibility to donate planes aready so i could contribute my part on top of buying the premium edition.

Edited May 14, 2014 by VSG1_Winger

[ParaB]

Buy the sim. Support the devs. Spread the word. Show that flight simulations are a profitable product.

 

And you'll get much more than the Bf-110.

 

 

 

Or lament every design decision while reminiscing about the 'good old days' and play Angry Birds on your Smartphone.

 

Edited May 14, 2014 by ParaB

[Walrus1]

I bet Bf110 is part of an add on shortly after release, maybe with new maps and scenarios

[BlueHeron]

Buy the sim. Support the devs. Spread the word. Show that flight simulations are a profitable product.

 

And you'll get much more than the Bf-110.

 

 

 

Or lament every design decision while reminiscing about the 'good old days' and play Angry Birds on your Smartphone.

 

+1   

[Finkeren]

I'm pretty sure the 110 is on the devs short list, and has been all along. The 110 is iconic, well documented, historically significant, fits the time frame, requires no new technology not already in BoS and goes well with the rest of the plane set.

[ShamrockOneFive]

I'm pretty sure the 110 is on the devs short list, and has been all along. The 110 is iconic, well documented, historically significant, fits the time frame, requires no new technology not already in BoS and goes well with the rest of the plane set.

 

Well said! The devs are focused on the release plan and then we'll see what they have planned after that. We've seen polls about the MC.202, IAR80/81, Hurricane II and P-40... some planes they are definitely thinking about for the future. We know the I-16 will eventually be coming along. The Bf110 is a no-brainer.

 

I'm hoping for reasonably priced content packages (maybe with new maps and such).

[Feathered_IV]

One of my long time ambitions for flight sims is too one day be able to cruise the night sky in a stag-antlered 110, admiring the moon. With just the hum of the engines for company and the radar operator softly murmuring in my ear: "contact, bearing three three zero..."

[Matt]

The Bf-110 would be a very good addition to the planeset. It fulfilled many different roles and it's one of the few multiseat fighter bombers.

 

Only problem would probably be the variant, because for BoS, the F variant would be correct, but it already got replaced by the G soon after. Both would be great of course (and i would gladly preorder them right away  ).

[Panzerlang]

One of my long time ambitions for flight sims is too one day be able to cruise the night sky in a stag-antlered 110, admiring the moon. With just the hum of the engines for company and the radar operator softly murmuring in my ear: "contact, bearing three three zero..."

 

Oh yes! If I had the choice of every imaginable ToE/campaign it would be a very close tie between the Reich Defence againt the USAAF and night-fighters against the RAF.

 

The only consideration that has ever put me off the idea of a night-fighter sim is the knowledge that most players would immediately adjust their gamma to turn night into day.

[ShamrockOneFive]

The Bf-110 would be a very good addition to the planeset. It fulfilled many different roles and it's one of the few multiseat fighter bombers.

 

Only problem would probably be the variant, because for BoS, the F variant would be correct, but it already got replaced by the G soon after. Both would be great of course (and i would gladly preorder them right away  ).

Been thinking a lot about this. If they built a Bf110F for BoS and then a Battle of Kuban or Kursk came along later then that would be the time to show off the G. The difference between the F and G were fairly large, no?

[Matt]

Main difference were the engines. The G had the DB 605 engine, so it performed a little better.

Then i think the MG FF/M of the F got replaced with MG 151/20 and the MG15 of the gunner got replaced with the MG81/Z (but i could imagine that some F also had the MG81 already).

 

So overall, the actual difference in BoS would probably not be that large, but still it might put certain people off, if we would have the G during the BoS. Still a G in BoS and a F in BoK (or whatever it will be called) would be better than no 110 at all for me.

[Panzerlang]

I think without fighter support or the ability to spawn AI backup it would become an unused plane in MP. Almost nobody flies it online in CloD, it's just fodder for the Spits and Hurris. I flew it once, never again, total waste of time.

 

I suspect the same fate awaits the Pe2, much-loved as it is.

 

Offline though, different matter due to AI support.

[JG4_Sputnik]

I think without fighter support or the ability to spawn AI backup it would become an unused plane in MP. Almost nobody flies it online in CloD, it's just fodder for the Spits and Hurris. I flew it once, never again, total waste of time.

 

I suspect the same fate awaits the Pe2, much-loved as it is.

 

Offline though, different matter due to AI support.

We fly it frequently and it's mostly a blast. But you're right, if the cover fails, you are dead rather quickly. But not only because its sluggish but mostly because the gunner refuses to work and the DM is more like on of a paperplane's. It's almost impossible to fly her once one prop stands still, which happens very quickly.

But call her a waste of time is not fair imho

[LukeFF]

The difference is thq

 

I think without fighter support or the ability to spawn AI backup it would become an unused plane in MP. Almost nobody flies it online in CloD, it's just fodder for the Spits and Hurris. I flew it once, never again, total waste of time.

 

I suspect the same fate awaits the Pe2, much-loved as it is.

 

Offline though, different matter due to AI support.

 

The difference, though, is that the Pe-2 is a bomber. If people try to fly it like a fighter, then they deserve to be shot down repeatedly. Even its Pe-3 cousin wasn't meant to be flown against daylight fighter opposition.

[Feathered_IV]

Pe-2 is my aircraft of choice for MP. Makes me feel sad for the Il-2, as I thought I'd be spending all my time there.

[Matt]

I did fly the Bf-110 quite a bit in CloD and much preferred it to the Stuka. Mostly in SP though, because there was too much lone-wolfing in MP for that plane and i never liked bombing ships.

 

With tanks, artillery positions etc. on the BoS map, i think the 110 will be a very good alternative to the fighter-bomber/ground-attack options the 109, 190 or the very slow and vulnerable Stuka offer right now.

 

I also expect the Pe-2 to become quite popular in proper MP missions, atleast as popular as the Il-2, probably more so, because it's superior to the Il-2 in almost all areas, excluding cannon armament.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Totally looking forward seing the Bf 110 (and someday the Hs129) ingame in future!

 

Always loved the deisgn of the Bf110 and it's high variety of weapons such as the 37mm or Mk.103s

Could be a perfect ground attack aircraft along with the Hs.129 and the Stuka .

[ScotsmanFlyingscotsman]

For what it's worth I think the 110 in Clod looks great, true its like flying a van v a sports car on the single engine fighters, but it's cool in my book.

So glad I bought the sim as there is a chance it will pitch up some day before I shove off my mortal coil....I'm kinda patient that way.

But I appreciate that this is BOS, it was their war that they know off by heart as we know our B of B and El Alamein etc. I find it an excellent history lesson/tool as there is lots we did not get taught about the Russian Front. So take what comes and be happy for the hard work of others who are going square eyed getting this out to us , THANK YOU ladies and gents

[[JG2]R7_Blackadder]

One of my long time ambitions for flight sims is too one day be able to cruise the night sky in a stag-antlered 110, admiring the moon. With just the hum of the engines for company and the radar operator softly murmuring in my ear: "contact, bearing three three zero..."

 

+ 1

[ShamrockOneFive]

I think without fighter support or the ability to spawn AI backup it would become an unused plane in MP. Almost nobody flies it online in CloD, it's just fodder for the Spits and Hurris. I flew it once, never again, total waste of time.

 

I suspect the same fate awaits the Pe2, much-loved as it is.

 

Offline though, different matter due to AI support.

Depends on the online environment. With IL-2 1946 we see lots of Bf110 use as an attacker and on occasion as a bomber destroyer type. You're right in that against more agile single engine fighters it really can't do much but in a scenario that heavily features ground targets you see aircraft like the Bf110 and the Pe-2 being heavily used in the attack role. With the 110 I've almost never set out as a fighter... definitely something you do once and decide to fly something else for that