Auto aim option for Tank Cannons?

[jollyjack]

I just realized that in a game like Tombraider there's an auto aim function. Such an option could be nice in TC as extra; drive and shoot at the same time.

 

With that changing screens between Cannon aiming view and Arcade (F4) view for driving it takes often too much time to save your ass from getting shot up.

Of course you'll need to be able to shoot in Arcade mode, like with the planes ....not possible yet inj TC?

[VSN_Razor]

You can enable autopilot and then, when you go to commander, you have an AI that controls the gun (and you can tell the driver where to go) 

[[KG]Destaex]

You can drive and shoot at the same time. Just go to the gunners position and use the arrow keys to drive from their.

Edited August 19, 2020 by [KG]Destaex

[jollyjack]

1 hour ago, [KG]Destaex said:

You can drive and shoot at the same time. Just go to the gunners position and use the arrow keys to drive from their.

 

Yep, done that, but turning the turret around gets me to bump into lampposts, trees (some get overrun). Feel like a blind mouse running from the cat ...

[Voidhunger]

Please no arcade things in TC. Like destaex said above its easy to control or navigate tank in the gunner position. Only thing im missing is the cursor in commander view to select target for the gunner and to select point where to move.

[simfan2015]

48 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

Only thing im missing is the cursor in commander view to select target for the gunner and to select point where to move.

That would indeed be a good idea.

It could/should(?) then be(ome) an option in the TC realism settings (SP as well as MP server ...)

[SCG_judgedeath3]

9 hours ago, jollyjack said:

Yep, done that, but turning the turret around gets me to bump into lampposts, trees (some get overrun). Feel like a blind mouse running from the cat ...

Just a matter of training and tank drivers often did such things in combat, a different solution is to multicrew: one player play as the gunner while you control the commander/driving.

[jollyjack]

Still hoping that some clever dev works can incorporate the F4 view with the 'pilot' map M function ...

[jollyjack]

On 8/19/2020 at 1:47 PM, Voidhunger said:

Please no arcade things in TC. Like destaex said above its easy to control or navigate tank in the gunner position. Only thing im missing is the cursor in commander view to select target for the gunner and to select point where to move.

 

Still hoping that some clever dev works can incorporate the F4 view with the 'pilot' map M function ...

And i like to see what's going on in Arcade view BTW, too nice scenery especially in the 'better' maps.

 

Shooting boogiemen with tanks is now too much like how a Dentist or Gynecologist paints his hall: through the mailbox ...

[Goosevich]

Welcome to the sim game. Either adapt or install >f2p arcade POS< ?

[2/JG26_rudidlo]

On 8/19/2020 at 9:29 AM, jollyjack said:

I just realized that in a game like Tombraider there's an auto aim function.

I have played that game recently and didn't find autoaim there.
 

On 8/19/2020 at 9:29 AM, jollyjack said:

Such an option could be nice in TC as extra; drive and shoot at the same time.

You already have this option in the game, gunner is fully simulated.

[LachenKrieg]

On 8/19/2020 at 7:47 AM, Voidhunger said:

Please no arcade things in TC. Like destaex said above its easy to control or navigate tank in the gunner position. Only thing im missing is the cursor in commander view to select target for the gunner and to select point where to move.

If you hit the Tilde key from any Commander view except binoculars, you can use the targeting cursor to target vehichles, or place it anywhere on the map you want to travel to, then simply click the LMB.

[Voidhunger]

1 hour ago, LachenKrieg said:

If you hit the Tilde key from any Commander view except binoculars, you can use the targeting cursor to target vehichles, or place it anywhere on the map you want to travel to, then simply click the LMB.

thats probably on easy difficulty.

With my difficulty settings there is no cursor

Edited September 13, 2020 by Voidhunger

[LachenKrieg]

28 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

thats probably on easy difficulty.

With my difficulty settings there is no cursor

Works on Expert for me. If you have the realism setting on Normal,  you will see a blue waypoint icon after pressing F5-move to point, or you will see a red attack icon after targeting an enemy vehicle. In the expert setting, you wont see those icons anymore, but the command feature still works.

[Voidhunger]

9 hours ago, LachenKrieg said:

In the expert setting, you wont see those icons anymore, but the command feature still works.

In the expert settings I cant see the cursor so its impossible to give order to which point my AI should go.

I tried it by guessing but it doesnt work.

 

[LachenKrieg]

Voidhunger, while I rechecked yesterday and confirmed that it worked for me on EXPERT setting, trying again today after reading your post confirms what you are seeing. But now it doesn't seem to work when the realism is set to normal either. So whats up IC/777?

 

What I was seeing up till yesterday is while in EXPERT mode, hitting the Tilde key would bring up the main command menu which included a round targeting icon that turns from white to red as you drag it with your mouse over terrain, or an enemy vehicle. Clicking the left mouse button opens a secondary command menu specific to the targeting icons use. For example, F1 = "ATTACK ENEMY", F5 = "MOVE TO POINT".

 

It worked the same way with realism set to NORMAL, except you had additional on-screen  icons representing the vehicle your attacking, or the point on the map your traveling to.

 

The image below is a screen shot from  about 2 weeks ago showing the secondary command menu with attack and way-point icons. The video below is from today showing that even with the realism set on NORMAL, the feature no longer works. Can anyone else confirm whether this feature is still working for them?

 

 

 

[SCG_judgedeath3]

2 minutes ago, LachenKrieg said:

The video below is from today showing that even with the realism set on NORMAL, the feature no longer works. Can anyone else confirm whether this feature is still working for them?

 

Has pretty much never worked for me, unless I lower the difficulty and make the game have all help feautures on. on my as realistic settings as possible, its just a guess work.

[LachenKrieg]

That is weird because I was able to use this feature without a hitch up until yesterday. As you can see in the image, it is working. I never thought of grabbing the video yesterday when I was confirming it for Voidhunger, but it worked. Now as you can see in the video, it doesn't even work with realism set to Normal.

 

A couple things to remember though. If you want to give the driver commands, you must first turn on "autopilot" from the drivers position, then go back to the commander's position and hit Tilde. To get the secondary menu,  click LMB after hitting Tilde. But as shown in the video, the round targeting icon is not present. I don't know why, but I am able to do less with Tank Crew today, then when I bought it a few month ago. Things work, and then they don't. 

 

15 minutes ago, SCG_judgedeath3 said:

Has pretty much never worked for me, unless I lower the difficulty and make the game have all help feautures on. on my as realistic settings as possible, its just a guess work.

 

The difference I was seeing between the two modes was that with EXPERT settings, I could see the round targeting icon, but not the attack and way-point icons. Oh yeah, and because it was brought to my attention that some mission editor features don't function from within the in-game server, the video above shows both, in-game and D-server action.

Edited September 14, 2020 by LachenKrieg

[LachenKrieg]

On 9/14/2020 at 3:12 AM, Voidhunger said:

In the expert settings I cant see the cursor so its impossible to give order to which point my AI should go.

I tried it by guessing but it doesnt work.

 

Voidhunger, just wanted to let you know that the command menu seems to work again for me today. I can't explain why it didn't work yesterday, but you can see in the video that it works in both expert and normal settings. The difference being you don't see the attack/way-point icons in expert mode. Personally I think it adds a big boost to realism of the sim in expert mode when you are alone, as Its similar to a tank commander giving orders over his intercom.

 

I really like this feature in Tank Crew, and hope they continue to flesh it out. What I tired to show in the video is just how fast it can actually be. With both the primary and secondary command menus, it basically comes down to memorizing a group of key strokes, and being able to use the mouse with the secondary menu adds significantly to the command interface.

 

Once you click on a point to move to with the LMB, hit F5, F3, F2, F1 as fast as you can to have your driver go there cross country at full speed. To have your gunner fire on a target after selecting it with the LMB, simply hit F1, F3, F1 as fast as you can to give the command. You can affect the turning radius of your tank by changing the speed at which you make the turn. If you want to turn sharper, use the slowest speed. You can spend literally hours playing around with this feature and still not cover it all. And when you think you have mastered commanding just your crew, try coordinating an attack on an enemy position with a platoon. 

 

The biggest bug I have found so far is with the secondary menu's F1 attack command. It seems to always use the main gun, even when you ask for machine gun suppression/attack. And depending on how your tank is positioned when you give an attack command, the tank sometimes starts to shake as if it is not sure where the target is. But other then that, the general foundation is there and its a beautiful thing... when it works.

 

 

 

[Voidhunger]

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1 hour ago, LachenKrieg said:

Voidhunger, just wanted to let you know that the command menu seems to work again for me today. I can't explain why it didn't work yesterday, but you can see in the video that it works in both expert and normal settings. The difference being you don't see the attack/way-point icons in expert mode. Personally I think it adds a big boost to realism of the sim in expert mode when you are alone, as Its similar to a tank commander giving orders over his intercom.

 

I really like this feature in Tank Crew, and hope they continue to flesh it out. What I tired to show in the video is just how fast it can actually be. With both the primary and secondary command menus, it basically comes down to memorizing a group of key strokes, and being able to use the mouse with the secondary menu adds significantly to the command interface.

 

Once you click on a point to move to with the LMB, hit F5, F3, F2, F1 as fast as you can to have your driver go there cross country at full speed. To have your gunner fire on a target after selecting it with the LMB, simply hit F1, F3, F1 as fast as you can to give the command. You can affect the turning radius of your tank by changing the speed at which you make the turn. If you want to turn sharper, use the slowest speed. You can spend literally hours playing around with this feature and still not cover it all. And when you think you have mastered commanding just your crew, try coordinating an attack on an enemy position with a platoon. 

 

The biggest bug I have found so far is with the secondary menu's F1 attack command. It seems to always use the main gun, even when you ask for machine gun suppression/attack. And depending on how your tank is positioned when you give an attack command, the tank sometimes starts to shake as if it is not sure where the target is. But other then that, the general foundation is there and its a beautiful thing... when it works.

 

 

 

 

nice, but there must be something in the customs settings preventing me to see and use this cursor

 

technochat maybe ?

Edited September 15, 2020 by Voidhunger

[LachenKrieg]

31 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

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nice, but there must be something in the customs settings preventing me to see and use this cursor

 

technochat maybe ?

That is a good question. I didn't do anything special in my settings other then customize the key-map a bit. I do have technochat turned on though. If you can't see the round targeting icon, make sure that you are either viewing from the cupola, or from the commanders opened hatch while in F1 vehicle view. Not from the binocular view.

Edited September 15, 2020 by LachenKrieg

[Voidhunger]

16 minutes ago, LachenKrieg said:

That is a good question. I didn't do anything special in my settings other then customize the key-map a bit. I do have technochat turned on though. If you can't see the round targeting icon, make sure that you are either viewing from the cupola, or from the commanders opened hatch while in F1 vehicle view. Not from the binocular view.

 

Yes i know that. I tried technochat on and it doesnt work.

Maybe somebody can help?

[LachenKrieg]

On 9/15/2020 at 7:02 PM, Voidhunger said:

 

Yes i know that. I tried technochat on and it doesnt work.

Maybe somebody can help?

Were you able to work it out?