Leon_Portier Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 The FC assets in the mission editor are amazing! If the planes are anything like it, I'd kindly ask for a copy please.
saviour Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 I have never posted everything in these forums before this but this is a sorry state of affairs... The sad thing about FC is that the game managed to kill RoF, which despite all the flaws is a very complete game, with single player experience, fantastic interface etc. The only thing it seems that FC achieved is to stymie WWI sim development for another 10 years or so... 1
No.23_Gaylion Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) I beginning to understand why these threads keep getting closed. You don't even have Flying Circus. How about you at least try it before bashing it? Edited August 21, 2020 by US93_Talbot 1
saviour Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 I am not bashing anything. Just stating what I see. I can also see why the threads keep getting locked and to be honest that is why I did not comment so long - nothing to offer. It is what it is I suppose.
Redwo1f Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 well shucks, i guess i missed it then (thought it was claimed to pass on elsewhere)...oh well...
Zooropa_Fly Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, saviour said: I have never posted everything in these forums before this but this is a sorry state of affairs... The sad thing about FC is that the game managed to kill RoF, which despite all the flaws is a very complete game, with single player experience, fantastic interface etc. The only thing it seems that FC achieved is to stymie WWI sim development for another 10 years or so... Hey Saviour, I do understand where you're coming from, for a while it felt like many VP's were caught between both games. However, RoF was severely on the wain before FC came along. FC's the only current future of ww1, certainly in the MP department. It is what it is, and as much as we yearn for the good old days... But honestly FC is great, and in many ways much better than RoF. There's no need to adore one and hate the other, as many have chosen to do. It'll pick up, eventually. S!
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, US93_Talbot said: Bender can I please get a gift copy? 56 minutes ago, Redwo1f said: ? don't you already have it ? It's a real pitty, Talbot, because for the low, low price of $11.99 you could have bought an alt account with IL-2 BOS and gotten FC for free. Bam, troll account all ready to go for shooting chutes on all major servers. 41 minutes ago, [N.O.G.F]Leon_Portier said: The FC assets in the mission editor are amazing! If the planes are anything like it, I'd kindly ask for a copy please. They certainly are! Copy sent. 30 minutes ago, Redwo1f said: well shucks, i guess i missed it then (thought it was claimed to pass on elsewhere)...oh well... Worry not, I have a second copy to gift tied to a fun incentive which I'll post about real soon! Yes it's No Man's Plane 2, I haven't had an original thought in years. 1 2
Leon_Portier Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, J5_Hellbender said: They certainly are! Copy sent. Thanks a lot! I cant wait to experience WWI flying!!! 1 1
JGr2/J5_Baeumer Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 Redwo1f, I have a copy for you. Just PM me on the board to confirm and I'll send it to you. 1 1
Redwo1f Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, J5_Baeumer said: Redwo1f, I have a copy for you. Just PM me on the board to confirm and I'll send it to you. Wow, thanks so much! Appreciated
Redwo1f Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, J5_Baeumer said: PM sent. See you over The Front! Damn, keep getting a DXGI error about 5 min in-game every time ? AI certainly is better than ROF though from what I have seen, though aircraft are far easier to shoot down than what I have been used to (WOFF)... ...hopefully can sort out the error (thinking it might be map related and my vid card - though reluctant to update to very latest driver as I have heard it is less than ideal).
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Redwo1f said: Damn, keep getting a DXGI error about 5 min in-game every time ? AI certainly is better than ROF though from what I have seen, though aircraft are far easier to shoot down than what I have been used to (WOFF)... ...hopefully can sort out the error (thinking it might be map related and my vid card - though reluctant to update to very latest driver as I have heard it is less than ideal). Oh no, is it specific to the FC planes and Arras map?
Redwo1f Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, J5_Hellbender said: Oh no, is it specific to the FC planes and Arras map? Seems to be...four quick skirmishes (8v8) in a row had that error. However, I have now ran 3 in a row to completion without it (though getting a 1/2 sec pause every once in a while (perhaps this is where it would have crashed previously (?) - which isn't happening in the other titles) - so idk yet. Trying to isolate whether it is a certain map position or aircraft or damage or....(?) before posting in tech assistance forum.
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 Interesting, it could be the old RoF error caused by having too many loose plane parts. Did you see many wings coming off? 1
JGr2/J5_Baeumer Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 If you didn't reboot your machine after downloading you might try that. Do you have any secondary graphic injectors running? If you don't know what those are the answer to that question is probably, no.
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 21, 2020 Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Redwo1f said: Seems to be...four quick skirmishes (8v8) in a row had that error. However, I have now ran 3 in a row to completion without it (though getting a 1/2 sec pause every once in a while (perhaps this is where it would have crashed previously (?) - which isn't happening in the other titles) - so idk yet. Trying to isolate whether it is a certain map position or aircraft or damage or....(?) before posting in tech assistance forum. Strange indeed, out of curiosity I ran a similar 8v8 skirmish three times and didn't have any problems. I do get very short stutters once in a while with this amount of AI in the mission.
Redwo1f Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, J5_Hellbender said: Strange indeed, out of curiosity I ran a similar 8v8 skirmish three times and didn't have any problems. I do get very short stutters once in a while with this amount of AI in the mission. Seems to be running better now (still early to tell) - but did a big cache clean-out and the weekly computer maintenance - plus backed off my overclock (previously stable) a bit on my video card and things have improved *fingers crossed* Been fun though - and definitely seeing the potential in this series ?. Will give PWCG a go with it soon, I think. AI isn't to WOFF level, but much much better than ROF. DM needs a good tweaking though as these crates seem just a bit on the fragile side (* If God shed a tear every time a Camel lost it's wings, we would need an Ark ? *). I am liking the Bristol F2b though (and finding I enjoy the Pflaz (seems more durable than the Alb)). May eventually try online with it sometime, we'll see... Edited August 22, 2020 by Redwo1f 1
NO.20_W_M_Thomson Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Redwo1f said: . DM needs a good tweaking though as these crates seem just a bit on the fragile side (* If God shed a tear every time a Camel lost it's wings, we would need an Ark ? *) Shhhhhhhhhhh
Zooropa_Fly Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Once you learn how to fly them properly it isn't as much of an issue. 4
Todt_Von_Oben Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) On 8/21/2020 at 11:29 PM, Zooropa_Fly said: Once you learn how to fly them properly it isn't as much of an issue. Agreed, Zoo. As of 4.009 we've been test-flying the SPAD: doing high-speed dives, recoveries, swoops, and dogfighting, just to see just how "flimsy" it is or isn't. I was repeatedly deep into the dark red, way over 300 before an aileron got jettisoned and I was still able to pull out without losing the wings. I tried again (minus one aileron) and had to put it into a vertical dive until well into the danger zone and then jerk the stick back to break 'em off. I was dogfighting Albies and D7F in it, too. (And yes, the SPAD can turn fight; just not as well as some.) So I fly the SPAD and don't worry about it shedding wings. In fact, I can say the same about ALL the planes in FC1 4.009. I have no problem with the FM or DM at all. And my wife (who doesn't fly sims but did get a little supervised time in our Luscombe 8E) is able to perform those same extreme maneuvers without pulling the wings off. So as far as we can determine by testing: there's nothing wrong with the sim if you fly with the control sensitivity of a pilot. But if you're visually chasing icons and jerking the stick like an arcade game player; then you will definitely shed wings. And I see that happening frequently when I watch the FR videos posted online, too. As a flight instructor, I was trained to look at what the plane is doing and evaluate the control inputs. From a real-world perspective: it's not the game; it's the players. Also, as a target: when I'm in close behind the 4.009 SPAD and accurately hitting the cowling, wing tank, and cockpit area with large volumes of fire; I often find myself wondering why he's not dead or in flames. But I don't get upset or assume he's been bulletproofed: I just keep flying and firing and eventually he goes down. Nothing to complain about. All seems about right to me and I enjoy flying FC1 in VR. Edited August 24, 2020 by Todt_Von_Oben 2
No.23_Gaylion Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 It's AFTER you take a few rounds in the wings guys. Not before. This is the issue. 38 minutes ago, Todt_Von_Oben said: Also, as a target: when I'm in close behind the 4.009 SPAD and accurately hitting the cowling, wing tank, and cockpit area with large volumes of fire; I often find myself wondering why he's not dead or in flames. But I don't get upset or assume he's been bulletproofed: I just keep flying and firing and eventually he goes down. Nothing to complain about This is because the AI KNOWS how much he's been damaged and limits his flying. We don't have that ability. Your wings can look absolutely fine but take a couple bullets and they are gone. You also understand your statement is in direct opposition to information provided from the developers right? 1
US63_SpadLivesMatter Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 Hell yeah here we go. Let's fire up the grill for another one, gents! 3
J99_Sizzlorr Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 9 hours ago, US93_Larner said: Did someone say SPAD? I overheard something like this as well... 1
ST_Catchov Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, J99_Sizzlorr said: I overheard something like this as well... What? Where? 1
No.23_Starling Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, ST_Catchov said: What? Where? Lawn darting without any wings after 2 hits? I wouldn’t shoot parachutes, it’s just they’re easier to hit than the pilot. 2
Rail Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 13 hours ago, US93_Talbot said: It's AFTER you take a few rounds in the wings guys. Not before. This is the issue. This is because the AI KNOWS how much he's been damaged and limits his flying. We don't have that ability. Your wings can look absolutely fine but take a couple bullets and they are gone. This is correct. If you hear rounds zipping through your canvas it is leaving residual damage which mounts up. The AI performance is also becomes visibly restricted in terms of corner-speed if you put a few rounds into him, which will give you a slight edge performance-wise.
No.23_Triggers Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, US93_Rummell said: I wouldn’t shoot parachutes, it’s just they’re easier to hit than the pilot.
J2_Trupobaw Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) On 8/25/2020 at 12:30 AM, US93_Talbot said: It's AFTER you take a few rounds in the wings guys. Not before. This is the issue. Damn, all this talk about wings going off gives me serious D.XII nostalgia... Edited August 26, 2020 by J2_Trupobaw 1 1
ST_Catchov Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 I know something but I'm not telling. Put me in a Dolphin if you like but I still won't tell.
Zooropa_Fly Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 We'll squash you into a Pfalz with Nooney.. 1
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 8 hours ago, J2_Trupobaw said: Damn, all this talk about wings going off gives me serious D.XII nostalgia... This is now a flying easter egg Pfalz D.XII and Hanriot HD.1 hype thread. HYPE! 1
ST_Catchov Posted August 26, 2020 Posted August 26, 2020 That thing looks like a retarded Camel. Were the plans upside down during manufacture or was it an attempted secret weapon? The German airmen must have died laughing when they saw it. 1 1
J2_Oelmann Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 22 hours ago, J2_Trupobaw said: Damn, all this talk about wings going off gives me serious D.XII nostalgia... I miss my Pfalz....
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 10 hours ago, ST_Catchov said: That thing looks like a retarded Camel. Were the plans upside down during manufacture or was it an attempted secret weapon? The German airmen must have died laughing when they saw it. Oops, my bad, that was a rare picture of it in Australian service.
Zooropa_Fly Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, J2_Oelmann said: I miss my Pfalz.... DXII instead of DIIIa / N17 instead of Dolphin.. ..would have been the perfect FC1 line up.
BMA_Hellbender Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 More historical proof of the Hanriot's awesomeness:
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