HunDread Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 About 3-4 out of 5 times I cannot bail bacause of pilot wound or fire. Earlier I was able to bail much more often. Is it just me or has this changed?
Giovanni_Giorgio Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 Are you flying red or blue? In a recent patch German guns became much deadlier at some point, either severely wounding the pilot or make it uncontrollable with just a single hit. No surprise it is hard to bail out. 1
HunDread Posted July 4, 2020 Author Posted July 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, mincer said: Are you flying red or blue? In a recent patch German guns became much deadlier at some point, either severely wounding the pilot or make it uncontrollable with just a single hit. No surprise it is hard to bail out. I am flying blue.
Tipsi Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 Try applying some negative G (push the nose down) and keep smashing that CNTRL + E
Moderators CLOD AWC Posted July 4, 2020 Moderators CLOD Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, HunDread said: About 3-4 out of 5 times I cannot bail bacause of pilot wound or fire. Earlier I was able to bail much more often. Is it just me or has this changed? It also depends on your speed and pilot state (wounded or not). When g force, speed and state of pilot is taken into account, yes the chances are probably reduced at bailing out.
MattS Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 You'll notice that our AI friends don't seem to have the same level of difficulty getting out of their damaged airplanes. The degree to which this game plays favorites with the AI is a Goddamned disgrace. 1
Monksilver Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, MattS said: You'll notice that our AI friends don't seem to have the same level of difficulty getting out of their damaged airplanes. The degree to which this game plays favorites with the AI is a Goddamned disgrace. I've noticed that first person to bail out of AI bombers is always the pilot and only then the gunners, now that must be disgraceful behaviour, pilot should be last not first to bail. 2 2
MattS Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Monksilver said: I've noticed that first person to bail out of AI bombers is always the pilot and only then the gunners, now that must be disgraceful behaviour, pilot should be last not first to bail. Haha, yeah they suck. I know that they're not real but I still hate them to a remarkable degree.
Bremspropeller Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Monksilver said: I've noticed that first person to bail out of AI bombers is always the pilot and only then the gunners, now that must be disgraceful behaviour, pilot should be last not first to bail. The pilot slipped and fell into a lifeboat... 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 4, 2020 1CGS Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, MattS said: You'll notice that our AI friends don't seem to have the same level of difficulty getting out of their damaged airplanes. The AI doesn't have different bailout restrictions from the player. 2
Avimimus Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Lemsip said: It also depends on your speed and pilot state (wounded or not). When g force, speed and state of pilot is taken into account, yes the chances are probably reduced at bailing out. Also rotational speed... and maybe the type of cockpit?
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 4, 2020 1CGS Posted July 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Avimimus said: Also rotational speed... and maybe the type of cockpit? Yes to both - and this is what makes flying planes like the Il-2 a bit more hazardous, as its canopy doesn't have an emergency jettison mechanism. 1
CountZero Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 I dont understand why air flow would not just blow pilot directly from cockpit if he opened canopy at high speed, bail out limitations are still to strickt in this game, not fun what so ever since they started to restict them more and more when G limits were added and pilots going in komas from every hit. 1 1
bzc3lk Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, CountZero said: I dont understand why air flow would not just blow pilot directly from cockpit if he opened canopy at high speed, bail out limitations are still to strickt in this game This you tube clip about the development of the Martin Baker ejection seat system may help you to understand why the pilot isn't "blown' out of the cockpit at high speed and why they developed the ejection seat system for the high speed egress from an aircraft. Take note of the 1.07 minute mark with the pilot struggling to exit the cockpit. Edited July 5, 2020 by bzc3lk 2 3
Luftschiff Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 I can understand that there's a difficulty in getting out, and I've definitely noticed a significant difference lately in how often I manage to bail - what's puzzled me more is that many times lately it seems that the pilot is unable to even jettison the canopy in aircraft which has such systems, such as the 109 and 190. Perhaps it is because jettison canopy is tied to the bailing out, and the latter being prevented also stops the former? I would expect in most cases even a pilot who cannot climb out of the cockpit could pull the lever.
KoN_ Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 I would say drop your speed as quick as you can to bailout , go inverted if possible . But its not guaranteed .
I./JG52_Woutwocampe Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 10:40 AM, MattS said: You'll notice that our AI friends don't seem to have the same level of difficulty getting out of their damaged airplanes. The degree to which this game plays favorites with the AI is a Goddamned disgrace. Gotta help the mentally challenged AI any possible way I guess. Today I saw 3x 109s crash around me in a 30 seconds span. For now particular reason, the fight wasnt that intense and there was no flak around. It was like a meteor shower, thank you AI. 1
danielprates Posted July 8, 2020 Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Since we're at it: does the new damage model include the canopy jamming shut? And btw was that really a thing or just a movie thing? Edited July 8, 2020 by danielprates
MattS Posted July 8, 2020 Posted July 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, danielprates said: Since we're at it: does the new damage model include the canopy jamming shut? And btw was that really a thing or just a movie thing? It did happen to a P-47 pilot (Robert Johnson maybe?). Can't imagine it was common!
Cavalier Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 6:02 AM, MattS said: It did happen to a P-47 pilot (Robert Johnson maybe?). Can't imagine it was common! Yeah it happened to Robert S Johnson in a P47 D10 which didn’t have a canopy jettison. If it had the jettison, Johnson almost definitely would’ve bailed. 1
gimpy117 Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 5:47 AM, mincer said: Are you flying red or blue? In a recent patch German guns became much deadlier at some point, either severely wounding the pilot or make it uncontrollable with just a single hit. No surprise it is hard to bail out. yeah German mine rounds are supposed to be good sure, but right now they are one shot wonders. needs to be looked at.
No_Face Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Indeed, it is difficult to eject :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJ9hq4xWE4? Edited July 12, 2020 by No_Face 1
HunDread Posted July 13, 2020 Author Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) On 7/11/2020 at 7:26 PM, No_Face said: Indeed, it is difficult to eject :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJ9hq4xWE4? Poor guy. How hard he was trying to save his bytes and bits life. One minute forum silence in his honour. Edited July 13, 2020 by HunDread
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