U-2VS - Thank You

[Groove_GFA]

Greetings,

 

I just wanted to throw a comment out here about the U-2VS. I'm getting back into the flight sim world and this plane is proving to be a real godsend to me as I re-learn everything from scratch.

 

Very cool to have a training aircraft in this game! I'm using it as such, and I'm grateful to the development team for including it - thank you!

 

-Groove

[Requiem]

The best part about the U-2 is you have can someone sit in the back and give you pointers, but that doesn't always work out perfectly with only one set of controls ?

[cardboard_killer]

BTW G

2 hours ago, Groove_GFA said:

Very cool to have a training aircraft in this game! I'm using it as such, and I'm grateful to the development team for including it - thank you!

 

Groove, in case you haven't discovered it yet, but Requiem has a Youtube channel with tutorials that literally kept me in the game; without them I'd have given up immediately. For example you can find his tutorial on the U-2 at

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by cardboard_killer

[BornToBattle]

Welcome back to the world of flight sims!

 

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I can only speak for myself when I say that Jason (aka Head Honcho) runs a pretty tight ship when it comes to what he expects from his products. And the development teams - second to none. Seriously. They actually do watch and respond to things posted here in the forums, let alone tickets for things such as suspected bugs, etc. and act on them in accordance. The dev teams he has onboard are tops. I only wish other developers were as concerned and conscience about the end product. Even better, once a plane or map set is released they always strive to make improvements to it as well such as reconfigured flight parameters, improved graphics, etc.and it’s all done with your original investment in the product. 

 

You’re rediscovering of the flight sim world is coming in at an exciting time, with VR support and another infamous civilian flight sim to be released which is supposed to be pretty awesome. Also the summer sale is going on now here so take advantage of some very steep discounts!

[gn728]

5 hours ago, Requiem said:

The best part about the U-2 is you have can someone sit in the back and give you pointers, but that doesn't always work out perfectly with only one set of controls ?

Haha - That video of you giving your Mrs a flight lesson is classic....... 

[Groove_GFA]

21 hours ago, Requiem said:

The best part about the U-2 is you have can someone sit in the back and give you pointers, but that doesn't always work out perfectly with only one set of controls ?

 

Your tutorials are absolutely fantastic - I actually commented on your U-2 video last night on youtube under "J L". Thanks for the link to your discord - definitely checking that our when I have some time. I absolutely must know - can the person in the back actually fly the aircraft as well? 

 

19 hours ago, BornToBattle said:

 

 

I can only speak for myself when I say that Jason (aka Head Honcho) runs a pretty tight ship when it comes to what he expects from his products. And the development teams - second to none. Seriously. They actually do watch and respond to things posted here in the forums, let alone tickets for things such as suspected bugs, etc. and act on them in accordance. The dev teams he has onboard are tops. I only wish other developers were as concerned and conscience about the end product. Even better, once a plane or map set is released they always strive to make improvements to it as well such as reconfigured flight parameters, improved graphics, etc.and it’s all done with your original investment in the product. 

 

You’re rediscovering of the flight sim world is coming in at an exciting time, with VR support and another infamous civilian flight sim to be released which is supposed to be pretty awesome. Also the summer sale is going on now here so take advantage of some very steep discounts!

 

 listened to a Stormbirds podcast where he discussed the game, it was really interesting to hear about the studio and how they operate. The level of authenticity and research done really means a lot to me. I made sure to purchase the game directly from here, rather than steam, to send the revenue to the devs for more great content. With the need to purchase a head-tracker, I couldn't purchase some of the other content I was interested in (Flying Circus and a few of the other collector aircraft) to stay on budget. A buddy of mine used to dabble in flight sims - I'm trying to talk him into buying at least one of the Battle modules.  

 

20 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

BTW G

 

Groove, in case you haven't discovered it yet, but Requiem has a Youtube channel with tutorials that literally kept me in the game; without them I'd have given up immediately. For example you can find his tutorial on the U-2 at

 

 

 

They were an absolute godsend. I've used them to correct (work in progress) a few bad habits on landing and clarification on mixture control. 

 

Thank you everyone!

 

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

36 minutes ago, Groove_GFA said:

 

Your tutorials are absolutely fantastic - I actually commented on your U-2 video last night on youtube under "J L". Thanks for the link to your discord - definitely checking that our when I have some time. I absolutely must know - can the person in the back actually fly the aircraft as well? 

 

 

 listened to a Stormbirds podcast where he discussed the game, it was really interesting to hear about the studio and how they operate. The level of authenticity and research done really means a lot to me. I made sure to purchase the game directly from here, rather than steam, to send the revenue to the devs for more great content. With the need to purchase a head-tracker, I couldn't purchase some of the other content I was interested in (Flying Circus and a few of the other collector aircraft) to stay on budget. A buddy of mine used to dabble in flight sims - I'm trying to talk him into buying at least one of the Battle modules.  

 

 

They were an absolute godsend. I've used them to correct (work in progress) a few bad habits on landing and clarification on mixture control. 

 

Thank you everyone!

 

 

 

Really glad you enjoyed the podcast! It's always interesting to talk to Jason and get a bit of the inside track on what they are doing and what they need to work around. 1CGS is a very cool development studio that's small and seems to make a lot of things work despite their size and that has made the IL-2 series into something really special.

 

It's not everyone that jumps in with the U-2VS first but it is such a good plane to learn and to get some basic flying done in. It's also a hilarious blast when you get a half dozen of them up into a mission filled with much faster aircraft too. But one thing at a time I suppose

[cardboard_killer]

4 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

It's not everyone that jumps in with the U-2VS first but it is such a good plane to learn and to get some basic flying done in.

 

I like the U-2VS, but it was the second plane I learned to fly after the Yak. I actually think the Yak is easier to fly, especially after Sheriff's and Requiem's videos. And let's face it, flying the Yak is much more akin to all the other planes in the series than the U-2 so the skills are more transferable.

[Elem]

13 hours ago, Groove_GFA said:

I absolutely must know - can the person in the back actually fly the aircraft as well?

In the real trainer version, yes of course. In our virtual version, no. You don't have a choice.

[Groove_GFA]

12 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

I like the U-2VS, but it was the second plane I learned to fly after the Yak. I actually think the Yak is easier to fly, especially after Sheriff's and Requiem's videos. And let's face it, flying the Yak is much more akin to all the other planes in the series than the U-2 so the skills are more transferable.

 

Interesting - I was wondering where I may transition next. Last night after my latest flight with the U2 I tried the P40 again briefly. I'm not sure it's a good beginner aircraft, but I gave it a quick test against a 109-E and managed to break the aircraft myself without being hit - bad enough for an emergency landing in the woods. I was inspired to try some combat after my U-2 got shot up by AAA unexpectedly while I was flying around solo - something I wasn't counting on during my ~45 min training/sight seeing flight! Made it home (lost the wing tip on landing):

 

 

Grabbed a screenshot. Thought it might be fun to try and log my flights.

 

3 hours ago, Elem said:

In the real trainer version, yes of course. In our virtual version, no. You don't have a choice.

 

I figured that might be the case, but would have been fun.

[cardboard_killer]

10 minutes ago, Groove_GFA said:

I tried the P40 again briefly

 

The P-40 is one of, if not the, most intensive plane to fly due to it's extremely fragile engine. I've never done more than take off and land in it as it screams NO FUN to me; however, some people love it.

 

The Yak is good because it is a complex engine that flies pretty simply. Requiem has a good video on it, but Sheriff's vid has all the engine management tips for easy flight and the second part has good fighting tips. It's a very maneuverable a/c and can be very good in capable hands.

 

 

[edit: as an aside I am very much more into the allied planes than the axis planes, especially the Russians. On the axis side, the Bf109f I think is the most popular "beginner" a/c, but I still haven't even gotten to it yet in my two years here].

Edited June 30, 2020 by cardboard_killer

[BornToBattle]

The P-40 with its glass engine - once you get all the nanny sitting parameters down, it can give back a lot of satisfaction for a job well done. Nothing like the sun in low on the horizon and after 30 minutes or so listening to that big Allison purr in a solo quick combat...mmm!

 

Do the same but get engaged in a furball and you’ll immediately wish you had set yourself in one of those nifty late war automated German machines!

 

Nah, it’s a classic nonetheless. Nothing like a challenge.

Edited June 30, 2020 by BornToBattle

[Groove_GFA]

6 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

The P-40 is one of, if not the, most intensive plane to fly due to it's extremely fragile engine. I've never done more than take off and land in it as it screams NO FUN to me; however, some people love it.

 

The Yak is good because it is a complex engine that flies pretty simply. Requiem has a good video on it, but Sheriff's vid has all the engine management tips for easy flight and the second part has good fighting tips. It's a very maneuverable a/c and can be very good in capable hands.

 

[edit: as an aside I am very much more into the allied planes than the axis planes, especially the Russians. On the axis side, the Bf109f I think is the most popular "beginner" a/c, but I still haven't even gotten to it yet in my two years here].

 

Yeah, it's tough to fly! I'm going to try the Yak-1, probably as my first Eastern front aircraft. I'll check out Sheriff's videos -  he seems like a knowledgeable guy! I really appreciate these great tips. 

 

It leads me to another question: I was wondering about some of the more common aircraft. I'd like to take my flying online in the near future. I'm assuming there are limitations on maps/theatres with aircraft availability (I've done no research). If you had to list one aircraft for the Commonwealth, Germans, Americans, and Russians that is almost always readily available, what would they be? I'm thinking it would be nice to be familiar with some of the more common types at a general level, assuming such aircraft restrictions in multiplayer even exist.  

 

-Groove

 

5 minutes ago, BornToBattle said:

The P-40 with its glass engine - once you get all the nanny sitting parameters down, it can give back a lot of satisfaction for a job well done. Nothing like the sun in low on the horizon and after 30 minutes or so listening to that big Allison purr in a solo quick combat...mmm!

 

Do the same but get engaged in a furball and you’ll immediately wish you had set yourself in one of those nifty late war automated German machines!

 

Nah, it’s a classic nonetheless. Nothing like a challenge.

 

I laughed when I blew up the engine against that 109 - it was hilarious. I had a quick mission, random difficulty pilot selected. Must have tangled with him for 3 or 4 minutes before the catastrophic failure. Blew the engine up a few hundred feet from the deck after starting the engagement at a decent altitude. It went better than round one, where I discovered the P-40 can lose airspeed real fast and nosedived right into the ground. Good times!

[cardboard_killer]

5 hours ago, Groove_GFA said:

If you had to list one aircraft for the Commonwealth, Germans, Americans, and Russians that is almost always readily available, what would they be?

 

I don't do multiplayer (yet?), so mainly just quoting you here so you get a better response. My guesses from what people say is (assuming you want a fighter and not a bomber):

• Bf-109F4 / Fw190a5
• Yak-1 (69) or Yak 7b
• Spitfire Vc
• US--in USSR you have the P-40 outside P-51.

[Groove_GFA]

12 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

I don't do multiplayer (yet?), so mainly just quoting you here so you get a better response. My guesses from what people say is (assuming you want a fighter and not a bomber):

• Bf-109F4 / Fw190a5
• Yak-1 (69) or Yak 7b
• Spitfire Vc
• US--in USSR you have the P-40 outside P-51.

 

Thanks so much cardboard. Yeah, I was thinking fighters to start. I've soldiered on with the P-40 (I can fly her now without blowing up the engine), and started with the Yak-1 you recommended and watched Sheriff's video last night. I think I've settled on staying away from aircraft with automated engine management for now, I want to get those skills down.

 

-Groove

[cardboard_killer]

4 minutes ago, Groove_GFA said:

the P-40 (I can fly her now without blowing up the engine),

 

You're a better man than I am Gunga Din.

[Groove_GFA]

2 hours ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

You're a better man than I am Gunga Din.

 

LOL, I'm sure I'll break the engine spectacularly in a furball. Its hard to resist the urge to punch it at 100% throttle. They must have had a wartime materials problem and built the engine out of tinfoil 

[Irishratticus72]

20 hours ago, BornToBattle said:

The P-40 with its glass engine - once you get all the nanny sitting parameters down, it can give back a lot of satisfaction for a job well done. Nothing like the sun in low on the horizon and after 30 minutes or so listening to that big Allison purr in a solo quick combat...mmm!

 

Do the same but get engaged in a furball and you’ll immediately wish you had set yourself in one of those nifty late war automated German machines!

 

Nah, it’s a classic nonetheless. Nothing like a challenge.

I've a soft spot for P40s, can't really explain it, it just looks like an early WW2 fighter should look. Plus it did sterling service in north Africa as a mud mover. 

Edited July 1, 2020 by Irishratticus72

[LLv24_SukkaVR]

I'm flying P-40 career right now and i always just set my RPM and MAP to max continous (2600 & 37,2), you just need to remember to adjust MAP if you change altitude. I never really use combat or emergency mode. So far haven't died or burned my engine (+10 sorties). It's really nice plane and joy to fly if you can dive on your enemies, but when you lose that speed things get hard. Same thing with P-47 ?

[Groove_GFA]

7 hours ago, LLv24_Sukka24 said:

I'm flying P-40 career right now and i always just set my RPM and MAP to max continous (2600 & 37,2), you just need to remember to adjust MAP if you change altitude. I never really use combat or emergency mode. So far haven't died or burned my engine (+10 sorties). It's really nice plane and joy to fly if you can dive on your enemies, but when you lose that speed things get hard. Same thing with P-47 ?

 

I took that approach tonight with a flight. I did some ground pounding against random AA targets and a convoy. I didn't use Emergency power and I was right on the borderline of continuous and combat power as you and others have advised. RPM and MAP within parameters and kept an eye on the cowl/temps as I flew at different altitudes. Worked great - ~40 minute flight and no engine damage.

 

Big steps - all thanks to what is a truly fantastic and helpful community of people. Couldn't do it without you guys!

[Aero-Jaeger]

Yup U-2 is amazing I even take it for dogfights on WoL server sometimes lol

[FeuerFliegen]

On 6/30/2020 at 7:07 AM, Elem said:

In the real trainer version, yes of course. In our virtual version, no. You don't have a choice.

 

Skip to 5:22

 

 

[jollyjack]

Compared to some FC1 planes like the Bristol, or RoF stuff the engine really lacks balls IMO. But fully loaded you can destroy almost any thing ....

PS is there a blip switch LoL?

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by jollyjack

[Feathered_IV]

Yes. It is next to the air brake.