Developer Diary 255 - Discussion

[Boomerang]

Awesome news, thanks a bunch for everything. Love ? the Razorback and everything else    

[Legioneod]

12 minutes ago, BigMotor said:

Han said,    "in general, P-47 now feels more like a heavy machine it was."

 

Outstanding, this is really great news.  The Thunderbolt has captivated me since childhood when I saw a picture of my Dad standing next to one during the war years.

 

Lots of respect to 1C 777 for filling in the gaps with the Razorback!

This is one thing I'm curious about, will the controls feel heavier and sluggish/stiffer? Imo they already feel that way at least at higher speeds I'm curious if they'll be even more so.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

I'm so very glad the 47 gets some true love.

So far I've hated that lump of lead, if felt like a brick without the wings, hopefully it will somewhat be a bit more competitive.

I still have hope on the P-40 severe engine restrictions being somewhat improved, maybe we need a further DLC featuring a P-40 for that (Pacific?).

[Mysticpuma]

Regarding the performance of the P-47 aircraft in dives, here is a great anecdote I recorded during a barbecue at Fighter Ace Art Fiedler's home in California a few years back where he discusses,'compressibility'

 

https://youtu.be/hZ42HhxRlPA

[Legioneod]

1 minute ago, =FEW=Hauggy said:

I'm so very glad the 47 gets some true love.

So far I've hated that lump of lead, if felt like a brick without the wings, hopefully it will somewhat be a bit more competitive.

I still have hope on the P-40 severe engine restrictions being somewhat improved, maybe we need a further DLC featuring a P-40 for that (Pacific?).

150 fuel should help it alot. It really boost the performance when it comes to acceleration and climb as well as higher top speed down low.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

6 minutes ago, Legioneod said:

150 fuel should help it alot. It really boost the performance when it comes to acceleration and climb as well as higher top speed down low.

Yup and that propeller too.

Finally this thing might be able to climb.

Can't wait to figure out if it sustains damage any better too since the damage model changes.

[=KG76=flyus747]

I noticed that the new German pilot model has One with the oxygen mask and one without. 
 

Will the New German pilot automatically put on his oxygen mask once he reaches a certain altitude?

[mattebubben]

Personally i find the P-47D-28 to be pretty good right now. (Its pretty much the only allied fighter i fly right now)

I feel i can take on most prop fighters with decent ods if we start on a level playing field

(Atleast for the first fights when i have plenty of time for Wep).

 

And the amount of damage it can take seems pretty right to me.

You no longer loose wings and engine is much more rugged to battle damage.

Ive had plenty of flights where ive been able to nurse it back home since the DM update.

 

And the D-22 will be better in both ways.

As it will both have better performance but also it should probably be more durable as the pilot should be better protected etc.

 

 

Edited June 26, 2020 by mattebubben

[Redglyph]

Quite the beast!

 

Note, use of the 3rd conditional form is quite wrong there:

 

3 hours ago, Han said:

 

The front part of the canopy includes two angled parts and the windshield center post would have blocked the view through the gunsight be it installed in the center,

 

The front part of the canopy includes two angled parts and the windshield center post would have blocked the view through the gunsight, had it been installed in the center,

[6FG_Big_Al]

4 minutes ago, =USNA=NikkiRhodes said:

I noticed that the new German pilot model has One with the oxygen mask and one without. 
 

Will the New German pilot automatically put on his oxygen mask once he reaches a certain altitude?

Exactly! You can see this already on the already redone pilote models For the Germans it's around 4k to use the oxygen system/mask.  A little bit lower for the western alliied and russians.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

20 minutes ago, =USNA=NikkiRhodes said:

I noticed that the new German pilot model has One with the oxygen mask and one without. 
 

Will the New German pilot automatically put on his oxygen mask once he reaches a certain altitude?

Notice it doesnt have a parachute either.

[[-=BP=-]Slegawsky_VR]

Blue pilots looking forward to it the most, one might guess. Nice fat target.

[keeno]

Stunning!

[LuftManu]

Nice to see more Jug love. This alongside the late Antons are my favourite planes to take the sky... can't wait to fly it! Thank you!

[mattebubben]

2 minutes ago, LF_Gallahad said:

Nice to see more Jug love. This alongside the late Antons are my favourite planes to take the sky... can't wait to fly it! Thank you!

I agree.

Radial gang for the win!

[LukeFF]

10 minutes ago, =FEW=Hauggy said:

Notice it doesnt have a parachute either.

 

Doesn't mean anything - it's just a rendered image. 

[=FEW=Hauggy]

24 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Doesn't mean anything - it's just a rendered image. 

Thanks captain obvious.

[smink1701]

Great update 

[Frequent_Flyer]

What's better than a Friday DD talking about a pair of Jugs. 

[Nadelbaum]

2 minutes ago, Frequent_Flyer said:

What's better than a Friday DD talking about a pair of Jugs. 

[mpdugas]

1 hour ago, Redglyph said:

Quite the beast!

 

Note, use of the 3rd conditional form is quite wrong there:

 

 

The front part of the canopy includes two angled parts and the windshield center post would have blocked the view through the gunsight, had it been installed in the center,

 

Probably not a nice comment directed toward someone whose first language may very well be one other than English.

Edited June 26, 2020 by mpdugas
grammar correction

[Redglyph]

17 minutes ago, mpdugas said:

 

Probably not a nice comment directed toward someone whose first language may very well be one other than English.

 

There's nothing wrong in helping others to improve.

[Talon_]

 

This is gonna be fun ?

[Stoopy]

24 minutes ago, Redglyph said:

 

There's nothing wrong in helping others to improve.

 

Plenty wrong with pointing it out to them in public in front of everyone else, though.

 

[sevenless]

20 minutes ago, Talon_ said:

 

This is gonna be fun ?

 

Only problem is, that close to nobody is flying in this game up to 7.000 metres and above. Neither in MP nor SP. But you can´t blame the jug for that, that is for sure.

[spitfirejoe]

thanks for the great DD, the Razorback looks very very Beautiful. Love it. I hope for next week then.

[Freycinet]

Great update, thanks! - The "Ferdinand-killer" looks fantastic.

[Talon_]

13 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

Only problem is, that close to nobody is flying in this game up to 7.000 metres and above. Neither in MP nor SP. But you can´t blame the jug for that, that is for sure.

 

It's better than a 67" Mustang at 15,000ft  

[easterling77]

Big Engine ?

High Octane Fuel?

Jug-Time is here?

 

Im so thankfull for your constant work. Outstanding Devs?

 

[pilotpierre]

Another interesting update. Gotta love Friday’s.

[RedKestrel]

2 hours ago, Talon_ said:

 

This is gonna be fun ?

They laughed at me when I flew the P-47 instead of the P-51! WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!

Ok, well, they're still laughing, but I'll be going faster when they kill me.

[sevenless]

Can´t wait:

 

[PatrickAWlson]

5 hours ago, Talon_ said:

 

It's better than a 67" Mustang at 15,000ft  

 

I heard the 67 Mustang is great in a dive.  

[ShamrockOneFive]

Looking forward to the new P-47! I do quite like the Razorback versions and the additions of the added octane and revised flight modeling are very welcome things too.

[Field-Ops]

9 hours ago, Legioneod said:

This is one thing I'm curious about, will the controls feel heavier and sluggish/stiffer? Imo they already feel that way at least at higher speeds I'm curious if they'll be even more so.

This part below from the DD looks like you should have more control authority at high speeds, especially since mach tuck actually requires control authority for the phenomenon to the pronounced in a significant manner. The way I interpret quote "elevator load at high speeds" means more control authority at high speeds by being less hard on the pilot to pull the stick back. Might have more roll authority at low speeds with his mention of ailerons, though i dont know what ram air has to do with it. 

 

Quote

The load on the control surfaces have been corrected as well - the ailerons are affected by the ram air a bit earlier, but the load increases at higher speeds more smoothly and the elevator load at high speeds was also reduced somewhat. The Mach number effect on the controls has been additionally adjusted. Overall, this resulted in better compliance with the reference data for roll speed and increased Mach-tuck tendency at high speeds.

 

What this means for low speed I cant really put together other than his mention of the stall characteristics showing warning signs earlier. So more buffeting warning and a less snappy wing drop is what I expect with the nose fighting its way back down. Sounds more believable to me in that regard. I do hope that their change to the flaps means the lift characteristics for normal takeoff and landing arent somehow now incorrect though I'm sure they wont oversight that. 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Field-Ops

[ATAG_SKUD]

10 hours ago, BlackSix said:

All BoN aircraft are divided into two types:

1) P-51B/C, P-47D “Razorback”, Bf 109 G-6 “Late”, Fw 190 A-6 - we can add them to existing squadrons and groups from BoBP career and there is no any problem.

2) Typhoon Mk.Ib, Mosquito F.B. Mk.VI, Spifire Mk.XIV, C-47 Dakota (AI), B-26 Marauder (AI), Ar 234 - for these aircraft we'll have to add several dozens of new units to the BoN and BoBP careers, write their stories and draw emblems. Most likely they will appear in the BoBP career on time with the BoN release.

And the Me-410 too?

 

skud

[Lusekofte]

That “jug” ?

”fm adjustments” 

150% octane 

 

good news all of it. Thanks ?

[LukeFF]

34 minutes ago, ATAG_SKUD said:

And the Me-410 too?

 

skud

 

The Me 410's only appearance in career mode will be in Normandy. 

[=621=Samikatz]

1 hour ago, ATAG_SKUD said:

And the Me-410 too?

 

skud

 

By late 44 a lot of twin engined aircraft on the western front were grounded. They used twice the fuel of a fighter, and fuel was becoming quite precious for the axis

[blitze]

Love the look of the cockpit in the P47 Razorback.  Good redundancy and also sights lining up to eyes (when head is reposition centrally for VR use in game).

 

Was quite taken with the earlier P47's in my childhood.  Shall be fun to fly them and hopefully by the time of BoN - .50 Cal ammo has some load out variations for it (cough incendiary, cough).

 

Pictures are beautiful as usual in Dev Diaries.?