4.008 - Is it a new hope for FC's DM?

[ST_Catchov]

Despite the controversy over the recent DM changes, I still believe they are a step in the right direction  *ducks* ….

 

So I'm wondering if the vociferous complaints over the recent FC DM changes have been taken onboard by the devs? Will they tweak some of the more extreme DM effects? Shooting away control wires is fine but not with a few hits, particularly when 1918 kites had dual wires for this eventuality. of course there's the other angle where we may not be seeing or hearing the actual hits which adds another dilemma. Jammed controls is more interesting and I think more common? Frayed wires and/or debris through relatively few hits could cause this. But how many hits is acceptable for gameplay and enjoyment purposes? So pare this back a bit.

 

As for wing-shedding, it's fair enough that wire-braced wings are more susceptible to catastrophic collapse than cantilever designs but I'm not sure that focussing on the wing spars is the right approach but I guess that's computing limitations. In any case, it would be great if they could increase the strength of wing-shedders a bit, and decrease the strength of the wing-keepers a bit  *ducks* …. my apologies to D7 drivers.

 

if it's taught us anything though, when damaged, F16 manoeuvres are out and that's probably a good thing. But just a few tweaks would be nice.

 

Anyway, it's due to be released in the next week or two so we shall see ….

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

Can tell you, It's getting tiring having my controls taken out with a if not 1 burst. I know many others are fed up with it as well. Seems like it's all tied in with il2 and maybe they can't change it with out changing il2 DM's as well. 

[ZachariasX]

I like how the DM gets new features. The downside to this is that the great battle series do have by now considerable content, all of which has to be adjusted for the new DM. This is especially troublesome when, as in case of FC, when objects are not readily suitable for the current DM and would probably require some extra love and work. Extra work that is only semi viable financially. It is US that have to make it such.

 

I see that for some rason not everyone bought FC. Why not? It‘s the same money in Jasons pocket that keeps the whole thing going. You‘re also not sending wrong signals by buying it, as due to the online nature of the game, the devs surely can see what content is used most.

 

Jason and his crew have proven over and over how committed they are to this series. So either we help attracting new customers or it is us who have to buy content, regardless of what we think of the individual module. With the current sale on, there is no reason anyway not to get the complete hangar.

[No.23_Triggers]

The good thing about the 4.007 DM thread being shut down was that everybody got the chance to let the discussion breathe and get a little more in-game context. Personally, I think the following: 

1)  In the "weak" planes, you absolutely can keep your wings on, even after being seriously damaged - but, if you have someone engaging you then you essentially have to choose between tame manoeuvres and getting shot in the back, or proper evasive manoeuvres that pull your wings off. 

2) Control surface damage still seems to be, just, far, far too frequent. During one training night I was doing a bit of sparring with one of the 103rd guys. We must have had about 20 duels - about 18 of which resulted in me shooting out one or more of his controls, or vice versa, with the first burst that landed. 

It might not have been clear from my comments regarding the DM in previous discussions, but I actually like the direction the Devs are taking - introducing more complexity and different outcomes to battle damage - I think it's great, and can create a more interesting experience! However, the current implementation of the new features does feel exaggerated to me. At the moment I think the Pfalz and D7 are exhibiting pretty good DM characteristics in the wing-shedding department - they are tough, and can certainly take a few bursts and continue to manoeuvre pretty hard - but doing anything extreme will take your wings off. I'd want to see the other planes come closer to those characteristics. 

Talbot & I are just about done collecting data from USAS combat reports and other period sources, with illuminating results. We're just working on formatting what we've collected into something presentable! 

[Ace_Pilto]

Collating or massaging?

 

Why not just publish the primary source and be done with it?

Edited June 26, 2020 by Ace_Pilto