Developer Diary 252 - Discussion

[Trooper117]

5 minutes ago, MattS said:

I will fly it for the same reasons I like flying the P-40, but it will be rough going against the F.

 

Absolutely... I have always been drawn to the underdog anyway when playing combat flight sims.

The early P-40 Tomahawks, I-16 and I-153 Polikarpovs, along with the Hurricane are some of my favourites.

It always gives me a better sense of achievement when I survive another mission or manage to get a kill...

[Lusekofte]

2 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

survive

Is my ultimate goal getting a kill will in my case be a lucky shot

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

The work done to the normal map is insane. Very nice job on the Ju 87. Gets me really exited to create some new skins for it.

 

I'm curious how different the P-47 'splitty' will feel compared to the bubbletop one with its more elegant vintage lines.

 

[VR-DriftaholiC]

5 hours ago, =FB=VikS said:

 

It seems like its not been used by combat units, as its the only photo that i have seen, and its full-size caption + text description points out that its a photo of experimental installation.

Also, its doubdfull that canopy windshield construction (with central vertical strut) will allow its acceptable use.

 

Cockpit boundaries seem to be a simple box.  I imagine this is why a bubble on the side wouldn't allow pilot to stick his head in there without clipping through something else in another position. It would be nice if the boundaries were revisited. Some planes like the JU-88 are exceptionally limited. It's especially jarring in VR not to be able to duck down to read instruments. 

Edited June 6, 2020 by VR-DriftaholiC

[SJ_Butcher]

Ohhh I hope the long awaited feature will be spoting fix ?

[Ala13_UnopaUno_VR]

10 hours ago, VR-DriftaholiC said:

Los límites de la cabina parecen ser una caja simple. Me imagino que esta es la razón por la cual una burbuja en el costado no permitiría al piloto meter la cabeza allí sin atravesar algo más en otra posición. Sería bueno si los límites fueran revisitados. Algunos aviones como el JU-88 son excepcionalmente limitados. Es especialmente discordante en la realidad virtual no poder agacharse para leer instrumentos. 

I totally agree there are 109 for example the G14 where you can take your VR view until it seems that you have your cheek resting on the peephole, and 109E7 that you can not even get close, it is strange that in very similar booths there is such a limit of movements, The JU88 is very very limited, you quickly collide with (you do not know which one), it is evident that where the best movement space is in the last incorporated airplanes, or it gives me that feeling, but it would be good to check the space inside the cockpit. Another detail is the camera shake inside the cockpit, in VR it only receives this vibration only when you go to the limit of the "box" while in 2D it does not matter where you are that the COCKPIT will vibrate by the rattle of the engine.

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by Ala13_UnopaUno_VR

[VR-DriftaholiC]

43 minutes ago, Ala13_UnopaUno_VR said:

I totally agree there are 109 for example the G14 where you can take your VR view until it seems that you have your cheek resting on the peephole, and 109E7 that you can not even get close, it is strange that in very similar booths there is such a limit of movements, The JU88 is very very limited, you quickly collide with (you do not know which one), it is evident that where the best movement space is in the last incorporated airplanes, or it gives me that feeling, but it would be good to check the space inside the cockpit. Another detail is the camera shake inside the cockpit, in VR it only receives this vibration only when you go to the limit of the "box" while in 2D it does not matter where you are that the COCKPIT will vibrate by the rattle of the engine.

 

Yeah in VR your head is also ridged and connected to the cockpit No sense of g-force. This would be a nice option to have.

[Bullets]

1 hour ago, VR-DriftaholiC said:

 

Yeah in VR your head is also ridged and connected to the cockpit No sense of g-force. This would be a nice option to have.

I disagree, I feel like this would induce motion sickness in a lot of people. Your “head” moving without any other senses feeling it and it not aligning to what your real head is doing would play havoc with your inner ear. I don’t get motion sick but I think this would make me haha.

[Ala13_UnopaUno_VR]

32 minutes ago, Bullets said:

No estoy de acuerdo, siento que esto induciría la cinetosis en muchas personas. Su "cabeza" se mueve sin que ningún otro sentido la sienta y no alinearse con lo que está haciendo su cabeza real causaría estragos en su oído interno. No me mareo, pero creo que esto me haría jaja.

It does not make me dizzy, in fact I prefer it, it is much more real to have SHAKE in the cabin with the vibration of the engine. Than not having it. Try it as I show in the video, in fact it should be a tab, want SHAKE, or not want SHAKE

[Pikestance]

I don't think this development team understands how this works. They supposed to be slow and methodical and we supposed to cry about how long they are taking to do stuff. I can't seem to catch my breath; just when I do, there is more. 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2020 by [=PzG=]-FlyinPinkPanther

[smink1701]

Wonderful update!

[Semor76]

I hope in the next patch, you can solve the issues with the weird blue halo around the planes!

 

 

[coconut]

Careful what you wish for. Last time they removed the outline when in front of clouds, planes disappeared. If I have to choose between these two evils, I like the current one better. 

[VR-DriftaholiC]

11 hours ago, Bullets said:

I disagree, I feel like this would induce motion sickness in a lot of people. Your “head” moving without any other senses feeling it and it not aligning to what your real head is doing would play havoc with your inner ear. I don’t get motion sick but I think this would make me haha.

I did say, optional. 

[Semor76]

5 hours ago, coconut said:

Careful what you wish for. Last time they removed the outline when in front of clouds, planes disappeared. If I have to choose between these two evils, I like the current one better. 

I know I´m in the absolute minority here with my wish, but how about fighting both evils..eh? ?

[MattS]

6 hours ago, coconut said:

Careful what you wish for. Last time they removed the outline when in front of clouds, planes disappeared. If I have to choose between these two evils, I like the current one better. 

 

In the Service, one must always choose the lesser of two weevils!

[Voyager]

On 6/6/2020 at 11:10 AM, MattS said:

 

The reason why it is a good joke is because it is so preposterous. Cancelling the Hurricane would set off Barbarossa 2.0 with the main axis of advance being the 1C headquarters.

 

So let's all take a deep breath or two and get ourselves ready for the massive disappointment it will be to actually fight 109Fs in it ???

 

Wasn't the last surviving Battle of Britain Hurri found in a rubbish pile in India? 

[JG1_Vonrd]

On 6/5/2020 at 12:02 PM, Jason_Williams said:

We threw the Hurri on the rubbish pile.

 

 

 

Jason

Assuming this is a joke?... Ha, ha   ?

[LLv34_Temuri]

Nice to have long-awaited improvements. I hope mission text log improvements are part of that.  

[Trooper117]

6 hours ago, JG1_Vonrd said:

Assuming this is a joke?... Ha, ha   ?

 

Think about it, of course he was joking!

You don't think they would bin it after people have already put down money to pre order it do you?

[RedKestrel]

10 hours ago, Voyager said:

 

Wasn't the last surviving Battle of Britain Hurri found in a rubbish pile in India? 

After going on the most epic bender of all time. Started drinking in the dispersal shed at Biggin Hill during the Battle of Britain, came to in India with the war over and a splitting cylinder headache. 

Made the Spitfires look like a bunch of lightweights.

[Tbolt47]

Looking really great. The attention to detail in the P-47 cockpit again is fantastic and the 4K Stuka scheme are looking sexy ?

 

Just one small point about the P-47 though. The colour of the area under the rear of the canopy was treated the same as the external fuselage, so on aircraft painted olive drab, it was olive drab and on aircraft that left the factory in natural metal such as the D22, this area was natural metal, even when the aircraft were painted after that, this area did not usually get painted.

 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Tbolt47

[Voyager]

7 hours ago, Tbolt47 said:

Looking really great. The attention to detail in the P-47 cockpit again is fantastic and the 4K Stuka scheme are looking sexy ?

 

Just one small point about the P-47 though. The colour of the area under the rear of the canopy was treated the same as the external fuselage, so on aircraft painted olive drab, it was olive drab and on aircraft that left the factory in natural metal such as the D22, this area was natural metal, even when the aircraft where painted after that, this area did not usually get painted.

 

 

Just seeing that is taking me back to my Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe days

 

Now if only I can figure out a way to break up long missions into stages, of finagle a mid-mission save-state in... 

[Tbolt47]

5 minutes ago, Voyager said:

 

Just seeing that is taking me back to my Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe days

 

Now if only I can figure out a way to break up long missions into stages, of finagle a mid-mission save-state in... 

 

That brings back some memories ?

 

[PatrickAWlson]

On 6/7/2020 at 6:31 PM, VR-DriftaholiC said:

I did say, optional. 

 

The more options you have the more difficult it is to maintain your product.  Now every regression cycle has to verify every combination of related options.  That gets to be near impossible, which leads to releasing without some use cases tested, which leads to bugs.  My current real job suffers from this badly.  In PWCG I was headed down that path until I started to claw back some of the options and resist calls for more customizations.   

[40plus]

26 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

The more options you have the more difficult it is to maintain your product.  Now every regression cycle has to verify every combination of related options.  That gets to be near impossible, which leads to releasing without some use cases tested, which leads to bugs.  My current real job suffers from this badly.  In PWCG I was headed down that path until I started to claw back some of the options and resist calls for more customizations.   

 

As someone who works in a SW heavy industry, this!

"Configuration" is a four letter word.

[VR-DriftaholiC]

9 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

The more options you have the more difficult it is to maintain your product.  Now every regression cycle has to verify every combination of related options.  That gets to be near impossible, which leads to releasing without some use cases tested, which leads to bugs.  My current real job suffers from this badly.  In PWCG I was headed down that path until I started to claw back some of the options and resist calls for more customizations.   

No argument there But they do have a competing product to worry about.

[andres43]

All is so great ?, but i miss an option for add or delete the wheel fairing in all Ju-87 paint schemes... ?
 

[ACG_PanzerVI]

On 6/7/2020 at 9:30 PM, MattS said:

 

In the Service, one must always choose the lesser of two weevils!

@MattS quoting Stephen Maturin on this forum will get you nowhere!  To Naval Action with you Sir!  ⛵?‍♂️

[szelljr]

After the last updates i have serious problem with the game (textures* ??). Cant find from where is coming.  I  use max,high settings...?

When this happens(not always) i can leave the game only with alt-ctrl-del...

Edited June 12, 2020 by szelljr

[OrLoK]

9 minutes ago, szelljr said:

After the last updates i have serious problem with the game (textures* ??). Cant find from where is coming.  I  use max,high settings...?

When this happens(not always) i can leave the game only with alt-ctrl-del...

can you reproduce this?

what are your specs?

[6FG_Big_Al]

14 minutes ago, szelljr said:

After the last updates i have serious problem with the game (textures* ??). Cant find from where is coming.  I  use max,high settings...?

When this happens(not always) i can leave the game only with alt-ctrl-del...

You are not alone. Sadly I have the same issues. Here is a link to my thread, maybe you could write your experience and  specs there. 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by 6FG_Big_Al

[andres43]

I'm having the same trouble too with blurry textures and game locked ?. Fortunatelly this issue is random and not continuous...

[Venom]

Quote

First, the readiness and release of the American P-47D-22 "Razorback" fighter, which will mean the beginning of the Early Access stage of Battle of Normandy.

Just to be sure that I am not misinterpreting anything: that means Early Access of BON starts with one of the planes, not THE MAP itself? When can we expect the map to "follow"?

[6FG_Big_Al]

6 minutes ago, Venom said:

Just to be sure that I am not misinterpreting anything: that means Early Access of BON starts with one of the planes, not THE MAP itself? When can we expect the map to "follow"?

Takes a long time. My tip would be in about 1 1/2 years we can think about it again. I wouldn't hope for something in that regard before. If you want you can go and check the update thread and see when the first maps for the former expansions were dropped after their offical start of the early access.