P-38 will not stall inverted!

[lantern53]

there's some info you'll never need

[Guest deleted@134347]

so it's a vertical rocket when flying upside down ?   

[Stoopy]

Better (or maybe worse) yet, it can never be landed while inverted? Just floats along above the runway?

 

[Guest deleted@134347]

19 minutes ago, =[TIA]=Stoopy said:

Better (or maybe worse) yet, it can never be landed while inverted? Just floats along above the runway?

 

 

it's a Maglev plane...

[JG13_opcode]

4 hours ago, lantern53 said:

there's some info you'll never need

 

Maybe some more specifics about what exactly you mean by "stall inverted"?

 

Video?

[RedKestrel]

13 minutes ago, Count_de_Money said:

 

it's a Maglev plane...

As we all know, electricity and magnetism are linked, and the plane IS called the Lightning. 

[lantern53]

I put the plane inverted and tried to make it stall by pushing the stick forward, it just continued to fly...

 

I know this sim isn't perfect but damn! it is freaking amazing! Just flew a mission where I discovered two things...flying through the wake of a bomber in flight will give you turbulence, and when a bomb goes off along the runway you are landing at you will feel the shockwave! I love this sim, haven't fiddled much with X-plane since I got it...btw, I used to fly real planes, just the little ones, though

Edited June 4, 2020 by lantern53

[Stoopy]

24 minutes ago, Count_de_Money said:

 

it's a Maglev plane...

 

Hopefully that goes for any fluid contents in the pilot relief tube as well...

 

17 minutes ago, lantern53 said:

I put the plane inverted and tried to make it stall by pushing the stick forward, it just continued to fly...

 

 

Could be a matter of not having sufficient control authority?   I'm sure  a bunch of us will be tying this now and l'll be sure to dial in full forward trim, as I practice a lot of inverted aerobatic stuff and always find a need to dial in a lot of forward trim. 

[RedKestrel]

27 minutes ago, =[TIA]=Stoopy said:

 

Hopefully that goes for any fluid contents in the pilot relief tube as well...

 

Call that a Maverick Shower

Edited June 4, 2020 by RedKestrel

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

Yep, the elevator doesn't have enough authority to reach critical aoa while pushing it inverted, if you keep going it will eventually stall by going too low on speed.

Now if you want to see something funky go inverted and deploy full flaps, the plane will stall soon afterwards and it's quite hard to recover (other than just retracting the flaps). Another way to enter this nasty stall is to start from level flight, deploy full flaps and then push the yoke all the way forward.

[farley]

I know this is off topic, but I believe the manual says not to fly inverted for more than 10 seconds because the oil will stop circulating correctly.

I doubt that is anything to worry about flying here though.

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

2 hours ago, dmfP38-*_ said:

I know this is off topic, but I believe the manual says not to fly inverted for more than 10 seconds because the oil will stop circulating correctly.

I doubt that is anything to worry about flying here though.

 

I'm pretty sure that doesn't guarantee a 100% failure rate though, just damage.  Sure, there are probably times that 10 - 20 seconds is all it needs to die but, it's probably very RNG (within a parameter range) too.  I would guess that unless the modeling is non-existent and we prove it, the devs did model in favor of the probability that it will fail after 10  seconds but, not make it an absolute. I guess everybody should get a stop watch, flip over and observe the results.

[MattS]

On 6/4/2020 at 3:57 PM, RedKestrel said:

Call that a Maverick Shower

 

[Bremspropeller]

On 6/5/2020 at 12:38 AM, dmfP38-*_ said:

I know this is off topic, but I believe the manual says not to fly inverted for more than 10 seconds because the oil will stop circulating correctly.

 

Which is normal for ANY airplane - unless you have an aerobatic oil system.

Yes, that limitation includes modern jet-fighters.

 

On 6/4/2020 at 11:53 PM, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said:

Yep, the elevator doesn't have enough authority to reach critical aoa while pushing it inverted, if you keep going it will eventually stall by going too low on speed.

 

This.

You'll also almost run out of elevator (and trim) when landing at full flaps. Not sure if that's entirely accurate, but I don't have the flight manual with me.