new PC, Setting recommendations for best FPS using oculus quest.

[-GBR-TreesSZ]

Hi All, First post but been playing for a while, mostly campaign. Decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to a new PC thinking I'd get an even better experience using the Quest via link. I'm really struggling to get a stable FPS in the game. To be honest I'd be happy to maintain a stable 70FPS. Currently it oscillates between 35 -71 constantly. I've tried to change setting according to advice on this forum but nothing seems to benefit my own system much! (although I do get 200+ FPS without VR). I'm running a 2080 TI, 32 gb Ram, i9. 9900k.

 

any advice would be hugely welcome!

 

[firdimigdi]

First and foremost: use OpenComposite and ditch SteamVR. Then in OTT or the Oculus Debug Tool enable Application Render Timing overlay to get a better metric than the fps indicator of how much effect each option has. Start with a baseline high preset and progress upwards until you are happy with what you see while maintaining a sub 10ms GPU render time in a clear weather 8 vs 8 dogfight. Then turn all the overlays and framerate indicators off, enjoy the game and don't obsess over them.

Edited June 2, 2020 by Firdimigdi

[-GBR-TreesSZ]

Thank you. I will work through that list! I appreciate the advice.

[Charlo-VRde]

For what it’s worth, I rarely get more than 35 fps in my Quest and I really enjoy flying anyway.  I wasn’t even aware how low my fps were until I had been enjoying the Quest for two months.  
 

I have chased the highest fps goal in the past on my flat monitors, but now so long as the game is smooth enough for my VR enjoyment, I turn off the fps counter.  At least, until I’m ready to completely upgrade my hardware after a 3080 is released 

Edited June 2, 2020 by Charlo-VR
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[dburne]

Agree full with using Open Composite and Oculus Tray Tool.

Open Composite:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/9nxixe/systemwide_installation_for_opencomposite_released/

Oculus Tray Tool:

https://forums.oculusvr.com/community/discussion/47247/oculus-traytool-supersampling-profiles-hmd-disconnect-fixes-hopefully/p1

 

Be sure and set " Prefer Maximum Performance" in the Nvidia control panel for IL-2.exe.

Lastly - are you overclocking that 9900k?

 

 

[-GBR-TreesSZ]

No, not overclocking. I am not very tech savvy the GPU runs very hot - 75 degrees C. I did set the Nvidia to max performance after reading through some old threads. I think as mentioned above I am going to live with it. The game is fine with what Ive got just a bit peeved that I thought it might be a lot better with the new pc. Thanks again for the advice all. 

[O_DesoLunatic]

Which detail preset are you using? The ultra or high presets in the menu will be very taxing even for an i9 - try balanced or low and your framerate should be much better. Also, what's your ram speed?

[chris_uk_83]

I've been running a Quest on IL-2 for a few weeks now, and I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my eyes:

 

I can't notice much difference between low and ultra, 35fps looks identical to 70fps, anti aliasing on/off or set to either mode seems to do nothing noticeable, and messing with Tray Tool, Steam VR settings or the Oculus Debug tool to change resolution seems to have entirely zero effect.

 

Whatever I do, the instruments are fuzzy (airspeed indicator is just about readable) and the landscape looks crap compared to how it looks on my monitor when I turn VR off.

 

However. VR is brilliant, and I don't care! I'm going to keep playing in the Quest until a proper headset is invented.

 

I'd love to know whether the Quest is somehow immune to having its graphics settings messed with

[dburne]

29 minutes ago, chris_uk_83 said:

I've been running a Quest on IL-2 for a few weeks now, and I'm wondering if there's something wrong with my eyes:

 

I can't notice much difference between low and ultra, 35fps looks identical to 70fps, anti aliasing on/off or set to either mode seems to do nothing noticeable, and messing with Tray Tool, Steam VR settings or the Oculus Debug tool to change resolution seems to have entirely zero effect.

 

Whatever I do, the instruments are fuzzy (airspeed indicator is just about readable) and the landscape looks crap compared to how it looks on my monitor when I turn VR off.

 

However. VR is brilliant, and I don't care! I'm going to keep playing in the Quest until a proper headset is invented.

 

I'd love to know whether the Quest is somehow immune to having its graphics settings messed with

 

 

Hmm you should be able to read the instruments. And you certainly should be noticing some differences with settings.

 

Couple of recommendations to get ya going maybe in right direction:

 

Download Open Composite:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/9nxixe/systemwide_installation_for_opencomposite_released/

Use it's switcher to switch from using Steam VR to Open Composite.

Grab the Oculus Tray Tool here:

https://forums.oculusvr.com/community/discussion/47247/oculus-traytool-supersampling-profiles-hmd-disconnect-fixes-hopefully/p1

Set up a profile in the Tray Tool for IL-2. 

I don't know your system specs, but try setting SS to either 1.1 or 1.2 in the profile.

Set CPU to High Priority. Adaptive GPU scaling to Off.

 

Try setting High Preset in game, maybe MSAA to x2. On your landscape distance, set to max.  Shadows High, Clouds High or Medium. Landscape filter to sharp.

Select Sharp over on the right hand side ( that is AF).

Select full screen mode.

Now under the Game tab in the Settings Menu, select Map Scenery Distance - Try Unlimited first. Can always go back and reduce if needed.

Seems to help some in the landscape shimmering to me.

 

In Nvidia control panel, select " prefer maximum performance" for IL-2.exe. Leave all other settings at default in here.

 

Now , use the IL-2.exe  to launch the game. Game should launch using Open Composite rather than Steam VR. This will help at least in the performance department.

Make sure you have assigned VR default view to a button on your HOTAS, once in cockpit adjust and hit to to get properly orientated in the cockpit.

Remember also to adjust your Quest Headset for IPD using it's manual IPD slider , looking at cockpit gauges is good place to do that.

Also adjust headset position on your head for best clarity.

 

I have no trouble reading cockpit instruments, might be one or two on certainly planes that a small bump in vr zoom helps. You can also assign 5 levels of VR zoom to a button on HOTAS as well.

 

Edited June 23, 2020 by dburne

[chris_uk_83]

8 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Thanks Dburne, this is a really comprehensive list of things to try. I'll try all that. For reference, I'm running:

Mobo: MSI H97 PC MATE
GPU: NVidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Intel core i5-4690 @3.5GHz
RAM: 16GB DDR3
SSD: 128Gb

 

I do use the zoom to read instruments, it's a perfectly good workaround, if the Quest resolution can't resolve them legibly anyway.

 

I'll try out Open Composite, I've read about this, but not played yet, as Steam VR was easy.

 

Out of interest, why do I run full screen mode rather than windowed? Is it because the PC doesn't have to render the game twice on the monitor as well as in the headset?

[dburne]

2 hours ago, chris_uk_83 said:

Thanks Dburne, this is a really comprehensive list of things to try. I'll try all that. For reference, I'm running:

Mobo: MSI H97 PC MATE
GPU: NVidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Intel core i5-4690 @3.5GHz
RAM: 16GB DDR3
SSD: 128Gb

 

I do use the zoom to read instruments, it's a perfectly good workaround, if the Quest resolution can't resolve them legibly anyway.

 

I'll try out Open Composite, I've read about this, but not played yet, as Steam VR was easy.

 

Out of interest, why do I run full screen mode rather than windowed? Is it because the PC doesn't have to render the game twice on the monitor as well as in the headset?

 

Full screen may give little better performance.

 

I will tell you, your rig is somewhat weak for VR. You will probably have to lower the settings more than what I had suggested. Plus the additional burden of running the image through Quest via Link.

Open Composite should certainly help, so definitely give that a go.

Also try FXAA in game rather than MSAA. And no SS in Oculus Tray Tool.

 

[chris_uk_83]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Full screen may give little better performance.

 

I will tell you, your rig is somewhat weak for VR. You will probably have to lower the settings more than what I had suggested. Plus the additional burden of running the image through Quest via Link.

Open Composite should certainly help, so definitely give that a go.

Also try FXAA in game rather than MSAA. And no SS in Oculus Tray Tool.

 

I thoroughly agree with you, but I seem to have no problems, which actually makes me think that something in some software somewhere is limiting things behind the scenes.

 

as I said, I can turn everything up to ultra, max AA, all settings set to high, ultra or whatever the maximum graphic setting is for each thing, and I still get 30-35 FPS. I only notice any jitter when I look sideways and roll as fast as the aircraft will roll, and even then the jitter is pretty small. However, it doesn’t seem to look that much better (clouds, grass etc are noticeably better on higher settings), leading me to assume that something behind the scenes is keeping it playable.

 

I’d like to crank it up, make it look awesome, and have the game crash, then work down, but I can’t make it unplayable!

 

my bro runs a better rig, i7 (don’t know the exact model, but it’s brand new), a 2060 And 16GB of DDR4, and he reckons his looks the same as mine, he only gets about 5fps better than me on the same settings. It’s hard to compare, being 200 miles apart, but his observations are the same as mine.

 

Hats off to whomever wrote the software, it seems impossible to have a poor experience on the Quest, as long as you don’t expect monitor level graphics.

 

Anyway, will give open composite a go this evening and see if I can break it!

 

[chris_uk_83]

Well, I had a go with tray tool and open composite, and cranked everything up to max, and I think my instruments are easier to read.

 

I played with the adaptive resolution scaling setting too, turning it right down to see what would happen, and it made my instruments fuzzy again.

 

MSAA made things worse, FXAA is better for me, my rig probably can't handle MSAA.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, chris_uk_83 said:

Well, I had a go with tray tool and open composite, and cranked everything up to max, and I think my instruments are easier to read.

 

I played with the adaptive resolution scaling setting too, turning it right down to see what would happen, and it made my instruments fuzzy again.

 

MSAA made things worse, FXAA is better for me, my rig probably can't handle MSAA.

 

 

Yeah I agree your rig I would suggest FXAA.

Keep tweaking and have fun! Long as you are having fun with it, that is the name of the game!

[chris_uk_83]

Got it! OTT does make a difference, and I can make my instruments nicely readable (almost, the small ones are still a bit fuzzy).

 

However, it makes combat jittery, my wings do a weird flicker thing, and it looks like a heat haze is coming off every surface of my plane.

 

So, now I know I can do it, I'm going back to poor graphics and waiting until I can justify a new rig... 

 

Hmm, >£400 for a 2070, or wait until the 3080 comes out and drops all the other prices. I think I'll hang on a moment.

[dburne]

26 minutes ago, chris_uk_83 said:

Got it! OTT does make a difference, and I can make my instruments nicely readable (almost, the small ones are still a bit fuzzy).

 

However, it makes combat jittery, my wings do a weird flicker thing, and it looks like a heat haze is coming off every surface of my plane.

 

So, now I know I can do it, I'm going back to poor graphics and waiting until I can justify a new rig... 

 

Hmm, >£400 for a 2070, or wait until the 3080 comes out and drops all the other prices. I think I'll hang on a moment.

 

 

Have fun!!

[rogueblade]

Do you guys recommend turning ASW off in OTT if my FPS is between 40 and 80?

[dburne]

9 hours ago, rogueblade said:

Do you guys recommend turning ASW off in OTT if my FPS is between 40 and 80?

 

It really depends on your system and how it performs, and how it all looks to you with either ASW on auto or off.

Best to try yourself both ways and see which you prefer.