PWCG Serious Injury from bailing out

[TAIPAN_]

Hi Guys,

 

How does bailing out work - is it automatically a serious injury? eg simulating a chance to land in the trees?

 

The mission went like this:

-4 Bf109s attack me

-Kill 1 but too many

-Left Wing got air conditioning holes and stops producing lift

-At this point my pilot has not been hit (no blood)

-I bail out. Close to the front lines but in friendly territory

-I watched the Rupert on the parachute land safely

 

Afterwards in PWCG it said serious injury 35 days.

 

Curious if all bail outs like this, or if it's a percentage, or did I get injured by bullets without blood?

 

thanks

 

[Yogiflight]

No, usually bailing out is no problem. Was your pilot hit by the aircraft, when bailing out, or have you been very low already, so he landed a bit fast.

You can always create an error file and post it here, then Pat can take a look into it, to see, what the reason for the wounding is. Without file, everything one can do is speculate.

[PatrickAWlson]

It's pretty much what the logs say.  The logs distinguish between your plane and pilot (Bot in the logs).  Damage to each is recorded independently.  If you were wounded then the logs said that your bot was damaged or possibly destroyed if you are not playing iron man,

[TAIPAN_]

ok thanks guys, maybe I was wounded without seeing the blood effect. Or it's possible the plane bumped me as I bailed.
I tried to read the game logs but it seems to be split across too many files.

[vonGraf]

I'm wounded (slightly) after every bail-out and crash landing in the game, IIRC it was introduced together with the g-force effects update.

[Yogiflight]

3 hours ago, vonGraf said:

I'm wounded (slightly) after every bail-out and crash landing in the game, IIRC it was introduced together with the g-force effects update.

Really, I can't confirm that. Bailing out I am only wounded if I am landing in a tree or bailing out too low, crashlanding, I can't really remember having been wounded at all.

But I was a few times not able to bail out at all, because of too high G-forces (after losing a wing), or too high speed when in a dive and not able to recover.

[vonGraf]

19 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

Really, I can't confirm that. Bailing out I am only wounded if I am landing in a tree or bailing out too low, crashlanding, I can't really remember having been wounded at all.

But I was a few times not able to bail out at all, because of too high G-forces (after losing a wing), or too high speed when in a dive and not able to recover.

 

Interesting. Like I said, I'm always slightly wounded and have to be in the hospital until the next day. And that happens at successfully controlled/soft crash landings/bailouts. No blood stain effect in your view or loss of consciousness.

Often I lost my position as a squadron leader too after a bail-out, sometimes only until the next day but at times for longer until I got promoted again. But that could be due to my very bad skills/results as a leader when I started a career for the first few times.

Edited June 9, 2020 by vonGraf

[Yogiflight]

Could it be the aircraft type you are flying? Maybe some aircrafts are not so forgiving in crashlandings and harder to bail out. Just a guess.

[vonGraf]

Until now I only flew the 109 and 110 in PWCG and career/missions (although I have bought every plane and map/campaigns) But I'm just at the beginning (again) and it's possible I'm interpreting my observations wrong and I got slightly hurt by splinters or bullets though during the fight that led to the crash/bail out situation later. But it didn't felt this way and I'm 'quite sure' this wasn't the case before an update did change it.

I was really sure it's a kind of 'malus' you always get from the game because a crash/bailout is such a dangerous situation. Maybe I should set up a test career and have a look. 

[PatrickAWlson]

This would be a normal outcome if you bailed out over enemy territory but had "max injury" set to seriously wounded.  PWCG changes captured to a serious wound.  You can only be captured if you are playing dead is dead.

 

Note to self: make shot down behind enemy lines its own thing like serious wounds.  PWCG will put your pilot out of action for n number of days while he makes his way back to his own lines and recovers from the ordeal.  It will be exactly the same as getting wounded in that you will have to take leave to advance time, but the messaging would be diffferent.