Stick return to neutral after pilot exit

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Lads, just wondering if it has or hasn't been brought up yet, as it seems like it would be a relatively simple thing to fix? Odd to me the way the machine continues to pull force after pilot bailing. With the latest update folks can get out of their machines with negative G assistance which is cool, but some of the things these airframes are doing afterwards is just mad.

 

Possible this will be looked at soon?

 

Regards

Edited May 27, 2020 by Bilbo_Baggins

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Gents, seeing many planes getting pilot killed and taking bizarre trajectories with dead pilot sitting there still applying heavy stick force. Anyone else bothered by this? Not sure if it has always been this way?

Edited June 22, 2020 by Bilbo_Baggins

[40plus]

Meh, it's an interesting quirk.

Nothing worth diverting resources to address IMHO.

[Bilbo_Baggins]

23 minutes ago, pfrances said:

Meh, it's an interesting quirk.

Nothing worth diverting resources to address IMHO.

 

And that's a rather quirky take on it. Let's just leave it as is then and let all these empty machines pull 4G into loops and negative G! The only reason I thought it constructive mentioning is because it would seem a relatively simple thing to address - pilot leaves airplane/killed... control input forces to 0.  

 

In addition, the blackouts have this already in effect - you pull into G-LOC and the plane inputs go to zero.

 

RGDS

Edited June 22, 2020 by Bilbo_Baggins

[AndyJWest]

A dead pilot doesn''t simply disappear. In a cramped cockpit, a corpse is quite likely to be pushing the stick one way or another.

[40plus]

2 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

A dead pilot doesn''t simply disappear. In a cramped cockpit, a corpse is quite likely to be pushing the stick one way or another.

I'll back OP up and point out the same thing happens on a bail out.

 

Still don't think it's an issue worth bating an eyelid at.

[216th_Jordan]

6 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

A dead pilot doesn''t simply disappear. In a cramped cockpit, a corpse is quite likely to be pushing the stick one way or another.

 

Maybe the legs would, a bailed out pilot pushes nothing though.

[AndyJWest]

If I remember correctly (long time since I played), in IL-2 '46 the plane would sometimes do what the OP wants, and stay at 'neutral controls' after the pilot bails. Not very helpful, since you could then find yourself chasing after aircraft happily flying around with no pilot.

 

In reality, a damaged aircraft (I assume it is damaged, otherwise why bail?) with the pilot gone (which will affect the CG, and therefore put it out of trim) is unlikely to remain in stable flight for long. The controls aren't going to be frozen to where they were when the pilot left, but neither is it going to be 'neutral'.

Edited June 22, 2020 by AndyJWest

[MattS]

36 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

If I remember correctly (long time since I played), in IL-2 '46 the plane would sometimes do what the OP wants, and stay at 'neutral controls' after the pilot bails. Not very helpful, since you could then find yourself chasing after aircraft happily flying around with no pilot.

 

 

 

Actually happened to me this weekend...started to boom and zoom a guy that I had already shot down in QMB lol

[Field-Ops]

I always wondered this myself. To me it should see the stick return to neutral and if possible an additional layer of gravity applied to the stick should play a part. So a plane in a left bank might continue rolling left util upside down. Then the gravity on the stick is returned to neutral. 

 

If the dead pilot is still in there then that would be tougher to model because a limp arm may or may not interact with the stick and the direction of gravity would play an even bigger part than the above.

[Bilbo_Baggins]

1 hour ago, Field-Ops said:

I always wondered this myself. To me it should see the stick return to neutral and if possible an additional layer of gravity applied to the stick should play a part. So a plane in a left bank might continue rolling left util upside down. Then the gravity on the stick is returned to neutral. 

 

If the dead pilot is still in there then that would be tougher to model because a limp arm may or may not interact with the stick and the direction of gravity would play an even bigger part than the above.

 

What I don't understand is since the big physiological update it works fine in a G-LOC and the machine has neutral stick, however, when he's dead or bailed the machine continues to pull big forces. Hopefully it's just a simple fix and they get around to it! 

 

RGDS

Edited July 3, 2020 by Bilbo_Baggins