Joy Stick: Force Feedback 2

[atyour6]

Anyone using MS Force Feedback 2 stick...    Does it give feedback other than tension when flying?  Meaning does the feedback work when firing guns, stalling, taxiing etc?   Mine use to work flawlessly with old IL2 1946     Its sucks how no one is offering new feedback joysticks anymore.    

[ACG_Bobo]

Yes, the MSFF is 'THEE' force feedback stick.  There is a guy selling some here: 

It's a few days old so they might be gone.  The stick is excellent.  Use a powered USB hub or it can cause really weird problems.  Of course it doesn't have all the buttons and switches that a Warthog has but flying feels great with it and yes all the buffeting, weapon firing and the like comes through.

[atyour6]

Thanks Robo I appreciate the info.!    However, I actually have one but I have two issues with it and was wondering if others had the same problems.  

1.  Great tension on the stick while flying but that is it no reaction to anything really  (guns, rough runway, stall etc etc. 

2.  Some time s when I first start flying it shakes violently for no reason so I have to reboot and try again for it to work properly. 

 

Looked for some updated drivers for it but no such luck.  Anyway if yours works great then maybe I need to track down one of those you gave me a lead on.

 

Thanks again

[vonrickenbecker]

Hey atyour6, I also fly with the ffb2. In the settings menu there are separate sliders for control force (tension) and shaking effects, so make sure those are set correctly. As for the random shaking on startup, the honestly sounds like something is corrupted in your game install, doing a clean reinstall might fix the issue.

[SCG_motoadve]

I have one, I can sell if anyone is interested.

[HunDread]

You might want to check out this thread too:

 

 

[DD_FT-]

Have been using and MS FFB2 for quite a while now, and found out that connecting it to an old USB 2.0 powered hub works best: I have no issue with the violent shaking as in that does not occur for me. A squad mate of mine does experience it once in a while however, and he is not using a hub like I am.

 

Every now and then after changing controls, the stick may lose the forces on the elevator, heading back into settings, input and switching FFB off and back on usually fixes this...

 

Spring tension varies with speed, the faster the a/c goes, the higher the tension.

Stall and firing guns and landing: To be honest, I cannot tell!

I suppose it does? Can't test right now, but will try and take notice next time I am in cockpit.

 

 

It appears this stick has some issues with USB 3.x ports, and Windows 10. 

[HunDread]

1 hour ago, DD_FT- said:

Spring tension varies with speed, the faster the a/c goes, the higher the tension.

Stall and firing guns and landing: To be honest, I cannot tell!

I suppose it does? Can't test right now, but will try and take notice next time I am in cockpit.

 

It does. Firing is barely noticable but it's there. It definitely starts to shake before the limit of stalling. It's not crazy noticable but definitely helps. Effects during taxiing are very much prominent for me.

 

I use amp_scale=2; as described in the thread I pasted above.

 

I agree on the powered USB 2.0 hub. That's what I'm using and just barely have any issues.

[atyour6]

Thank you everyone!   Plan to try these remedies out tonight! 

[VR-DriftaholiC]

You should use the highest update freq and only lower it if you experience stuttering.

[CanadaOne]

8 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

I have one, I can sell if anyone is interested.

 

If you weren't 3000 miles and one border away, I'd grab it. Mine is at least 10 years old and it's showing it age.

[HunDread]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

 

If you weren't 3000 miles and one border away, I'd grab it. Mine is at least 10 years old and it's showing it age.

 

You may well have a younger one of these with 10 years.

[Dirt_Merchant]

I've been running the G940 stick and throttle, with the hacked firmware from fred41 and also stripped the throttle electronics and swapped over to a bodnar board.

 

Also have 3 MSFFB2's waiting for some special boards so i can run aftermarket grips on them. Very much will not even consider flying without FFB anymore!

 

 

[atyour6]

FIRST RECOMMENDATION I TRIED WORKED!   PLUGGING INTO SLOWER USB.   IT DOES NOT LIKE THE 3X     THANKS GUYS!

 

 

[Bvv_Fr_VR]

On 5/27/2020 at 7:21 AM, atyour6 said:

Thanks Robo I appreciate the info.!    However, I actually have one but I have two issues with it and was wondering if others had the same problems.  

1.  Great tension on the stick while flying but that is it no reaction to anything really  (guns, rough runway, stall etc etc. 

2.  Some time s when I first start flying it shakes violently for no reason so I have to reboot and try again for it to work properly. 

 

Looked for some updated drivers for it but no such luck.  Anyway if yours works great then maybe I need to track down one of those you gave me a lead on.

 

Thanks again

Just try my sw ffb 2 with il2 and me too, i have only tension on stick but nothing else, no guns, runway, no stall, etc.

 

Other post with amp 2 setup doesnt help me

 

Any solution to have complete ffb like msfs2020 with xpforce for example ? 

 

Thanks

Edited May 13, 2022 by Bvv_Fr_VR

[1Sascha]

11 hours ago, Bvv_Fr_VR said:

Just try my sw ffb 2 with il2 and me too, i have only tension on stick but nothing else, no guns, runway, no stall, etc.

I know this isn't helpful to you, but: Having used nothing but FF2s for well over a decade, I'm not even sure you'd want the effects. Even in games that supported them, I found them more of a distraction than a help. Plus they were never *that* spectacular to begin with IMO. There's only so much force you can generate with a consumer-grade, plastic joystick I suppose. Plus I'm not even sure you'd feel that much through a real flightstick, sitting in a real plane ... especially when it comes to things like gun-recoil.

 

Given the choice, I'd much rather use an FF2 with its generic spring tension set to max ... or a dampened, non-FF joystick like the VKB Gladiator Evo I switched to this year. The precision on that thing is incredible.

 

S.