Question about the WINDOW

[spitfirejoe]

Hello,

 

today I tried to bind a key mapping for Opening and Closing the "WINDOW".

I expected that I can close and open the Cockpit Window/Windows of some airplanes, but trying the P-38, HE-111 and P-39 which has Windows which could be maybe opened nothing opens!?

 

The Windows of the P-39 and P-38 only open together while Opening the canopy ( Door in the P-39 ) and the He-111 opens only the Cockpit window when activating the canopy.

 

Am I missing something here? What does the key action "Opening/Closing Window" do when not opening a window? is it possible in the P-38 and P-39 only to open the windows and NOT the canopy?

Edited May 22, 2020 by spitfirejoe

[Hipsu]

Good question. I tried all the controls in every plane (see my signature) and the window-button was a total dud.

 

Same goes for:

- Fire secondary turret guns

- Gunsight reset (I thought this would reset gyro, but nope)
- Visor vertical adjustment
- Visor horizontal adjustment
- Visor adjustment reset

 

I guess these are misplaced tank controls, or placeholders for future planes...

[spitfirejoe]

thanks for your response.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Hipsu said:

Same goes for:

- Fire secondary turret guns

- Gunsight reset (I thought this would reset gyro, but nope)
- Visor vertical adjustment
- Visor horizontal adjustment
- Visor adjustment reset

 

Those are all tank controls.

[[CPT]Crunch]

Window command is crucial for the Ju-52, it not only opens your sliding side window, but also the cargo doors for offloading on the ground.  If you don't open it the weight isn't subtracted from your gross from the cargo, you'll feel it when it happens visually, the plane will bounce about as the freight is removed.  You'll also notice it when you take off again.  Pretty important for doing trash runs on the campaign type servers.

Edited May 22, 2020 by [CPT]Crunch

[spitfirejoe]

thanks for your input CPT Crunch, then I will try the Ju-52 again and look for the window and Cargo doors

[Hipsu]

35 minutes ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Window command is crucial for the Ju-52, it not only opens your sliding side window, but also the cargo doors for offloading on the ground.  If you don't open it the weight isn't subtracted from your gross from the cargo, you'll feel it when it happens visually, the plane will bounce about as the freight is removed.  You'll also notice it when you take off again.  Pretty important for doing trash runs on the campaign type servers.

 

I just tested in the QMB and the window command does nothing. The canopy command opens/closes those cargo doors and the cockpit side-window.

Edited May 22, 2020 by Hipsu

[kestrel79]

I want to say the window command works in the pe-2?

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, kestrel79 said:

I want to say the window command works in the pe-2?

 

No

[spitfirejoe]

haha, so untill now there is obviously not a single window in any aircraft operated by the key mapped window control.

Since tanks  don´t have windows this window control is not in use today.

 

I hope the Devs read this and hear my request to make the window contol work in all the planes which have windows.

Would be really cool if I could operate the window independently of the door in a P-39, independently of the canopy in a P-38 and so on. In the USAAF operations manual of the P-38, wich I bought as a book, it is stated as a warning note not to fly with windows opened, because it causes tail flattering, would be cool if that little detail is modeled in our IL-2 sim.

Edited May 28, 2020 by spitfirejoe

[w00dy]

I have tried it in the spitfire and it definitely does not work, and even setup the command in voiceattack. That's how I found it didn't work.

[Yogiflight]

1 hour ago, spitfirejoe said:

Since tanks  don´t have windows this window control is not in use today.

I think in tanks it is the command to close/open armor protections in front of the driver/gunner. But if so, the name is quite misleading.

And yes, it would be nice to have the possibility to open side windows in aircrafts and maybe the exit hatches/doors of bombers, when you have landed and press the key for open/close canopy.

[LukeFF]

12 hours ago, spitfirejoe said:

In the USAAF operations manual of the P-38, wich I bought as a book, it is stated as a warning note not to fly with windows opened, because it causes tail flattering, would be cool if that little detail is modeled in our IL-2 sim.

 

It is modeled.

[DD_Arthur]

15 hours ago, spitfirejoe said:

I hope the Devs read this and hear my request to make the window contol work in all the planes which have windows.

Would be really cool if I could operate the window independently of the door in a P-39, independently of the canopy in a P-38 and so on. In the USAAF operations manual of the P-38, wich I bought as a book, it is stated as a warning note not to fly with windows opened, because it causes tail flattering, would be cool if that little detail is modeled in our IL-2 sim.

 

 

You can do this in the P39 too

[Velxra]

Hmm since the canopy keybind opens the window in the JU-52 and the door in the P39. Do we think key is incorrect or if the devs did not assign the function itself?

 

Also I have wondered why we never could open the sliding window panels in planes for years. I always thought it was just some benign control combination I could never find.

[spitfirejoe]

Hello DD_Arthur, cool Video...….how did you open ONLY the windows in the P-38 without opening the canopy????

When I try to do this with the default key mapping LWin+C nothing happens. Could you enlighten us please and tell the secret how you did!

[Yogiflight]

I would like to add, that in the 110 E2 the canopy of the gunner doesn't open at all, when you open the canopy of the pilot after landing. In the G2 it does.

Apart from that it would be cool to have the possibility to open side windows.

[spitfirejoe]

20 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

I would like to add, that in the 110 E2 the canopy of the gunner doesn't open at all, when you open the canopy of the pilot after landing. In the G2 it does.

Apart from that it would be cool to have the possibility to open side windows.

 

If you see the video above DD_Arthur did open both side windows of the P-38 without opening the canopy, don`t ask me how he did that, maybe it`s his little secret

Edited May 29, 2020 by spitfirejoe

[LukeFF]

4 minutes ago, spitfirejoe said:

If you see the video above DD_Arthur did open both side windows of the P-38 without opening the canopy, don`t ask me how he did that, maybe it`s his little secret

 

Just press the canopy button. There's nothing else you need to do.

[DD_Arthur]

35 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Just press the canopy button. There's nothing else you need to do.

 

This!

[SidtheGit]

11 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

 

You can do this in the P39 too

 

You can also open the side windows on the A20 whilst flying by using the Open Canopy command. Extra wind noise and, with the side windows open, when you land and are taxiing the top entry/exit section automatically opens when you reach a particular slow safe speed. 

Edited May 29, 2020 by SidtheGit

[spitfirejoe]

Ok Thanks guys NOW I got it. I guess I must explain all my confusion.

 

Last week I made my own key mapping profile for the TARGET Software of my Thrustmaster warthog HOTAS and I had to go through all key mappings in the game. By doing this I found the window open/close command. I put it on a button of my HOTAS finding out that nothing happens. Then I tried to open close windows with the default command LWin+C and also nothing happened. That`s why I was asking here.

 

With the P-38 or P-39 I never expected you could open the windows in flight by pressing the comand for opening the canopy......I expected the canopy would try to open and blow off, that`s why I never tried.

 

NOW I know by the command open/close CANOPY you:

 

- open ONLY the windows of the PE-2 ( Nothing else opens )

- open ONLY Side window of the HE-111 and JU-88

- open windows plus canopy/side door on ground with the P-38/P-39  and in flight ONLY windows

 

Sorry for my confusion about all that before

 

 

 

 

[Yogiflight]

45 minutes ago, spitfirejoe said:

Sorry for my confusion about all that before

Well, I would say the confusion was not created by you, but by very confusing commands, the Devs implemented. If you have a command 'open/close window', why not use it for exactly this, instead making the command 'open/close canopy' opening the canopy, when standing or taxiing very slowly, and only opening the side window when taxiing faster/flying.

[BornToBattle]

17 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

It is modeled.

Wow...the proof is in the details! Gonna try this today in VR. 

 

4 hours ago, SidtheGit said:

 

You can also open the side windows on the A20 whilst flying by using the Open Canopy command. Extra wind noise and, with the side windows open, when you land and are taxiing the top entry/exit section automatically opens when you reach a particular slow safe speed. 

If I may, was this video recording done with the TrackIR or in VR being used? You can PM, it’s fine.

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, BornToBattle said:

If I may, was this video recording done with the TrackIR or in VR being used? 

 

Rift CV1.      

[JTF-skypickle]

anyone know how to open/close the windows on the mosquito? how about open/close the door?

[FeuerFliegen]

I always wish they would allow you to open the sliding glass window in the cockpit of Bf109s that had this feature, like you can in CLoD

[vvuorela]

Stuka has a working floor window.

[dannytherat]

8 hours ago, JTF-skypickle said:

anyone know how to open/close the windows on the mosquito? how about open/close the door?

You can't open or close the windows on the Mosquito, but you can open and close the crew entry door on the ground by using the Open/Close Canopy command (RAlt C).

 

To open the crew door in the air (a little more permanently) try Ctrl E ?

[=FEW=fernando11]

You can also open some side windows while using the flare gun. The one I remember is the left sliding window on the mc202.  It doesnt on the 109, because it has its dedicated port for the flare gun

[JTF-skypickle]

On 10/25/2022 at 5:40 AM, dannytherat said:

You can't open or close the windows on the Mosquito, but you can open and close the crew entry door on the ground by using the Open/Close Canopy command (RAlt C).

 

To open the crew door in the air (a little more permanently) try Ctrl E ?

thank you. i also noted I cannot change seating positions in the mossie.

[Airborne506]

On 5/28/2020 at 2:40 AM, spitfirejoe said:

In the USAAF operations manual of the P-38, wich I bought as a book, it is stated as a warning note not to fly with windows opened, because it causes tail flattering, would be cool if that little detail is modeled in our IL-2 sim.

 

Oof, I feel real bad for those guys flying them in the south pacific; I thought I read somewhere some guys would fly in shorts or without shirts on (can't remember the source)  but that doesn't seem like a great idea if you've got to bail out.

[[CPT]Crunch]

It's actually modeled in the 38, accidentally took off in one with the canopy still open, didn't notice since I was primarily busy setting up a new controller in and out of key controls.  I looked back and everything behind the pilot in the cockpit was severely shaking, took a minute to figure out why, never saw that before, pretty cool in VR.  Forward views things seem fairly normal though.