Windows Insider Build 19624

[Gomoto]

I am feeling bold today. Installing fast ring right now. Hoping for the WMR 60hz distortion fix and other improvments. 

We will see.

[Dutch2]

Copy/paste from reddit:

My name is Erica and I work for Microsoft on our Mixed Reality team. I would like to quickly clarify the recent blog post shared here: Getting the May 2020 Update Ready for Release

We found an issue causing severe performance problems with Windows Mixed Reality headsets running SteamVR applications. The fix for this issue will be available in the first servicing update after the general availability of the Windows 10 May 2020 Update.

To ensure our customers continue to have the best experience with their Windows Mixed Reality devices, we recommend Windows Mixed Reality users not install Insider Builds. Additionally, when you take the Windows 10 May 2020 Update, please check for updates before using your Windows Mixed Reality device so you get the fix that is available in the first update package.

[Gomoto]

Thanks for the advice. This blog post is about build 19041. I go directly for 19626 in the fast ring. This is not for the faint hearted ?

Build 19626 fixes the 60hz distortion bug indeed! And boy is it smooth, the constant 60hz. ?

Edited May 11, 2020 by Gomoto
make it more concrete

[LLv34_Flanker]

S! 

 

Not a VR user, but jumped the bandwagon and installed this update as well. No issues so far. Could be a placebo, but felt like loading of things were faster or more responsive. 

[Guest deleted@134347]

this is right there is the main reason I don't own Reverb or any other headset running off WMR.

 

Why can't MS separate their WMR platform from the main OS? It's beyond idiocy.

 

 

[1./KG4_OXO123]

On 5/10/2020 at 4:12 PM, Gomoto said:

Thanks for the advice. This blog post is about build 19041. I go directly for 19626 in the fast ring. This is not for the faint hearted ?

Build 19626 fixes the 60hz distortion bug indeed! And boy is it smooth, the constant 60hz. ?

does this also fix the distorted image ?  any word on release date please ?  

 

atb oxo

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Count_de_Money said:

this is right there is the main reason I don't own Reverb or any other headset running off WMR.

 

Why can't MS separate their WMR platform from the main OS? It's beyond idiocy.

 

 

 

Same here, I really want nothing to do with WMR.

 

[WheelwrightPL]

2 hours ago, Count_de_Money said:

this is right there is the main reason I don't own Reverb or any other headset running off WMR.

 

Why can't MS separate their WMR platform from the main OS? It's beyond idiocy.

 

 

 

Because tight integration of WMR with underlaying OS improves performance (or at least has potential to do so).

It is about highly optimized function calls that access resources directly and with minimal overhead (resources such as memory, cpu allocation, disk-space and so on). Also it helps that WMR people are also Windows people and the other way around, so they have required knowledge to maximize interoperability and performance between the two platforms.

That's hardly idiotic.

 

[Guest deleted@134347]

42 minutes ago, WheelwrightPL said:

 

Because tight integration of WMR with underlaying OS improves performance (or at least has potential to do so).

It is about highly optimized function calls that access resources directly and with minimal overhead (resources such as memory, cpu allocation, disk-space and so on). Also it helps that WMR people are also Windows people and the other way around, so they have required knowledge to maximize interoperability and performance between the two platforms.

That's hardly idiotic.

 

 

this is all just a marketing drivel, pal.

 

If you want to present the above as 'facts' then please provide the actual measured metrics instead of simply swallowing MS's technobabble.

 

From my end-user perspective the MS's shenanigans with unstable updates and frequent corruptions during those updates outweigh any of this unsubstantiated marketing trash.

 

I modify my Win10. I remove bloat, I modify GPO and registry to make sure MS knows as little as possible about my operation of their OS. WMR does not like that and stops working for various UNDOCUMENTED reasons. And the only way to fix WMR is to restore full OS from scratch and don't touch anything in it.  MS can go fuck itself with this type of anti-user approach to emerging technologies.

 

[Alonzo]

On 5/12/2020 at 12:54 PM, WheelwrightPL said:

Because tight integration of WMR with underlaying OS improves performance (or at least has potential to do so).

It is about highly optimized function calls that access resources directly and with minimal overhead (resources such as memory, cpu allocation, disk-space and so on). Also it helps that WMR people are also Windows people and the other way around, so they have required knowledge to maximize interoperability and performance between the two platforms.

That's hardly idiotic.

 

Unless I am mistaken, WMR runs on top of SteamVR, at least for our use-cases in games. That seems like more layers not less.

[-332FG-Gordon200]

9 minutes ago, Alonzo said:

 

Unless I am mistaken, WMR runs on top of SteamVR, at least for our use-cases in games. That seems like more layers not less.

This is the reason I'm optimistic about the combined efforts of Microsoft, HP Reverb and Steam/Valve in producing the next generation Reverb. We may see the elimination of one of those layers.

[Dirt_Merchant]

fingers crossed for that, sure would be nice to see some more performance!

[NiiranenVR]

I'm downloading now 

Im couldn't find the 19626 but a 19628

[NiiranenVR]

well , yesterday I was a young man with hopes and dreams .....

But now I'm a old man - resign and give up V

 

I tried CMD , delete map windows Software distribution and uninstall some programs ....

But still ?

[Dirt_Merchant]

anyone have a comment on performance as yet?

[Vortice]

My PC sometimes only offers me a 60MHz (fisheye) option only for my HP Reverb if it has been up and running for a while before I launch WMR, but a reboot always fixes this issue. Is this what you are talking about?

 

Additionally is this Insider Build 19624 likely to be part of a forthcoming Windows 10 update, so I won't have to do the reboot thing in future?

[Gomoto]

Once Insider ... always insider.

You will have to do the reboot thing about once a week and pray. If you opt out you have to wait until next major release of windows  is installed.

But If you are brave and ready to bear the consequences ? the distortion bug is a thing of the past.

 

If would recommend waiting for the fixes to arrive in one of the next major releases if you are not very confident.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Gomoto

[1./KG4_OXO123]

16 hours ago, Gomoto said:

Once Insider ... always insider.

You will have to do the reboot thing about once a week and pray. If you opt out you have to wait until next major release of windows  is installed.

But If you are brave and ready to bear the consequences ? the distortion bug is a thing of the past.

 

If would recommend waiting for the fixes to arrive in one of the next major releases if you are not very confident.

I think I can wait ha ha !  

[Gomoto]

Probably a good decision, but I like to be in harms way. (If it is software related harm only ?)

Edited May 18, 2020 by Gomoto

[Vortice]

I am brave and I spend my professional working week building laptops and PCs for other people, but I don't seek out extra work if someone else can do it for me instead.

 

The reboot thing is a mild nuisance, but it always works and is not as much upheaval as a complete system re-image would be, so I will stick with it and hope that Microsoft pushes out a fix at some point as part of a future Windows 10 update.

 

Worse things happen at sea after all.